That's cause most conquest maps are way too huge.Deofuta 说:
A few questions to the public
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Avenge 说:Though when you got a Conquest map mode this will extremely increase that regiments will play in lines to mass-recruit.
I wish that was the only way people could recruit. Better than the spam on public chat ^.^
Frankly, I would be impressed if it went something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7wEUlpaYjY
why not have the official battle run 2 conquest maps at the same time every day at a time when the server usually has 30+ people in it.
i used to play on a server in BF2 that would run maps for 64 people from 12-5 PM then switch down to 16 player maps for the rest of the day, seemed to work fine most of the time.
just a thought, if the server can't do time based map changes then i'm sure there might be another solution
i used to play on a server in BF2 that would run maps for 64 people from 12-5 PM then switch down to 16 player maps for the rest of the day, seemed to work fine most of the time.
just a thought, if the server can't do time based map changes then i'm sure there might be another solution
- Do you like the Official Battle Server?
Yes
- Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
No
- Which gamemode is your favorite?
Battle/duel
- Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
No, no point adding a new rotation.
- Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
no
Yes
- Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
No
- Which gamemode is your favorite?
Battle/duel
- Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
No, no point adding a new rotation.
- Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
no
Krause
Sergeant
- Do you like the Official Battle Server?
Yes i do for public, quick instant play the best option.
sometimes a pain (when you meet people running wild a do a lot of TKs by intention Doublegunning and so on).
Sometimes frustrating when you get killed early - you have to wait. But it leads to train to become better player.
- Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
No
a) there are enough servers with other gamemodes. Team Deathmatch is great for Regiment Training.
Deatmatch is great to improve your melee skill (Should i get more spare time, i should spend a lot time there.
But even than i should be unable to improve my melee skill /(%=(%(/%%=((&(/&?/ )
But those Servers never reach the numbers like Official Battle
b) Some Conquest/Capture the Flag and Siege Servers were stopped because Admins tired of people not reading/following the rules, TKs Doublegunning and so on.
These gamemodes are best as Events for Regiments only, that are able and willing to follow the Server rules and with nearly 200 people online
- Which gamemode is your favorite?
Battle !! for instant Quick play
Linebattle, Conquest, Siege as organized Event
- Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
a) when i start playing M&M i ask some people to join - answer: great Mod , great Maps - played it a lot in the past but gettin tired playing same old maps again and again.
b) some maps are disliked. Like Dschungel Ruins - i often hear: Oh no not this map
c) You know it by yourself. There extist some really tanlented map Builders in the community and it would be great fun to get and play on those maps (First replace maps never get used - than
start a poll for actually not wanted/disliked maps) maybe 1 new map every month would be great for longtime motivation.
d) some maps in rotation need a fixing.
After more than 4 months playing M&M, i often play on Taiga map, often there are Skimishes in the Hills.
2 Days ago i was 20 Seconds on the map, just avoiding 4 incoming Lancers i enter the beginning of the Hills and git kicked off the Server...
Temporary Banned because of glitching/using unfair advantage - absolute annoying for me - remembering lots of fights with 10 and more people and everything was fine.
If this area is forbidden make it not usable !
In La Haye Saint there is a ladder to the roof, people use this ladder to shoot from the roof - everything is ok
Yesterday getting killed early in a round at House 2 map - i was spectator. There is also a ladder to the roof - one guy using it. On guy ingame was figthing from the roof.
Server message this is forbidden, you got 5 Seconds to leave. Well that guy get slayed by admin...
If that ladder is forbidden just remove it from the map
Trenches - there is a Trick one guy uses to get on the Tower in Town and sitting there for the rest of the game.
Rivercrossing? - some people are able using a bug to get on top of one building
- Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
Special Events, with Special Build maps are everytime a warm welcome highlight - although it needs a lot of work in preparation and nerves holding it
Just my 2 cents
i hope nobody feels offended
Rule Number one: Never post something on internet - you will only get misunderstanded and earn a flame war - sorry for posting !
Yes i do for public, quick instant play the best option.
sometimes a pain (when you meet people running wild a do a lot of TKs by intention Doublegunning and so on).
Sometimes frustrating when you get killed early - you have to wait. But it leads to train to become better player.
- Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
No
a) there are enough servers with other gamemodes. Team Deathmatch is great for Regiment Training.
Deatmatch is great to improve your melee skill (Should i get more spare time, i should spend a lot time there.
But even than i should be unable to improve my melee skill /(%=(%(/%%=((&(/&?/
)But those Servers never reach the numbers like Official Battle
b) Some Conquest/Capture the Flag and Siege Servers were stopped because Admins tired of people not reading/following the rules, TKs Doublegunning and so on.
These gamemodes are best as Events for Regiments only, that are able and willing to follow the Server rules and with nearly 200 people online
- Which gamemode is your favorite?
Battle !! for instant Quick play
Linebattle, Conquest, Siege as organized Event
- Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
a) when i start playing M&M i ask some people to join - answer: great Mod , great Maps - played it a lot in the past but gettin tired playing same old maps again and again.
b) some maps are disliked. Like Dschungel Ruins - i often hear: Oh no not this map
c) You know it by yourself. There extist some really tanlented map Builders in the community and it would be great fun to get and play on those maps (First replace maps never get used - than
start a poll for actually not wanted/disliked maps) maybe 1 new map every month would be great for longtime motivation.
d) some maps in rotation need a fixing.
After more than 4 months playing M&M, i often play on Taiga map, often there are Skimishes in the Hills.
2 Days ago i was 20 Seconds on the map, just avoiding 4 incoming Lancers i enter the beginning of the Hills and git kicked off the Server...
Temporary Banned because of glitching/using unfair advantage - absolute annoying for me - remembering lots of fights with 10 and more people and everything was fine.
If this area is forbidden make it not usable !
In La Haye Saint there is a ladder to the roof, people use this ladder to shoot from the roof - everything is ok
Yesterday getting killed early in a round at House 2 map - i was spectator. There is also a ladder to the roof - one guy using it. On guy ingame was figthing from the roof.
Server message this is forbidden, you got 5 Seconds to leave. Well that guy get slayed by admin...
If that ladder is forbidden just remove it from the map
Trenches - there is a Trick one guy uses to get on the Tower in Town and sitting there for the rest of the game.
Rivercrossing? - some people are able using a bug to get on top of one building
- Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
Special Events, with Special Build maps are everytime a warm welcome highlight - although it needs a lot of work in preparation and nerves holding it
Just my 2 cents
i hope nobody feels offended
Rule Number one: Never post something on internet - you will only get misunderstanded and earn a flame war - sorry for posting !
Refleax
Master Knight
Do you like the Official Battle Server?
Battle mode is not siutable for public play.
Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
Conquest is currently the best available gamemode but sadly it lacks good maps. It's impossible to make battle mode enjoyable without some sort of organisation which makes it not siutable for public play.
Which gamemode is your favorite?
Conquest.
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
They certainly would be a welcome gift but the team isn't supporting this module anymore, we'll just have to wait for the next release. You guys should be looking forward to it, it shall bring forth a new era of maps.
Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
The Official Battle Server is enough to support the current community.
Battle mode is not siutable for public play.
Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
Conquest is currently the best available gamemode but sadly it lacks good maps. It's impossible to make battle mode enjoyable without some sort of organisation which makes it not siutable for public play.
Which gamemode is your favorite?
Conquest.
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
They certainly would be a welcome gift but the team isn't supporting this module anymore, we'll just have to wait for the next release. You guys should be looking forward to it, it shall bring forth a new era of maps.
Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
The Official Battle Server is enough to support the current community.
KillerMongoose
Sergeant Knight
I think a Capture the flag server would be pretty interesting with Mount and Musket's gameplay. I've noticed that CTF invokes more teamwork in public play than tdm or battle even in the chaotic lands known only as Native . My 2 cents.
. My 2 cents.tompaw0w
Do you like the Official Battle Server?
Sometimes.
Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
No.
Which gamemode is your favorite?
Duel & DM.
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
Yes, it's been pretty much the same for a year now, with some slight changes in the rotation. And therefore I've lost interest in having a play-around in the Battle Server.
Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
Well, not really. What I think though is try to make the Battle server a bit more interesting. New maps (I've volunteered to make a custom-map one, but no response) would definately bring me back to be more active on the server, seeing that I've been playing the same thing all over again.
Sometimes.
Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
No.
Which gamemode is your favorite?
Duel & DM.
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
Yes, it's been pretty much the same for a year now, with some slight changes in the rotation. And therefore I've lost interest in having a play-around in the Battle Server.
Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
Well, not really. What I think though is try to make the Battle server a bit more interesting. New maps (I've volunteered to make a custom-map one, but no response) would definately bring me back to be more active on the server, seeing that I've been playing the same thing all over again.
sirwho
Knight
Do you like the Official Battle Server?: No. Not because the server itself. The mods combat has become to rediculous.
Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?: I wouldn't play on it anwyays.
Which gamemode is your favorite?: Battle
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?: Yes. The existing ones are one sided, horrid and buggy.
Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?: No. Splitting the population over two servers would be silly.
All in all the mods combat is horrid, so until thats fixed I want nothing to do with it except line battles now and then. So servers are really not an issue for me one way or the other.
Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?: I wouldn't play on it anwyays.
Which gamemode is your favorite?: Battle
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?: Yes. The existing ones are one sided, horrid and buggy.
Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?: No. Splitting the population over two servers would be silly.
All in all the mods combat is horrid, so until thats fixed I want nothing to do with it except line battles now and then. So servers are really not an issue for me one way or the other.
I think I can basicly give some answers here,
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?:
Basicly the same reason as below adding now a rotation, and you don't even know for how long exactly it will be needed.
"Adding new customs maps to "
I've asked Vince for the Ligny event, he said No. With a good reason. If you are now going to change server info etc, while there is a patch on the way, is more kinda stupid and wasting of time.
Excuse me if i'm wrong said here, but this was (for what i heard) kinda the reason.
Goki
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?:
Basicly the same reason as below adding now a rotation, and you don't even know for how long exactly it will be needed.
"Adding new customs maps to "
I've asked Vince for the Ligny event, he said No. With a good reason. If you are now going to change server info etc, while there is a patch on the way, is more kinda stupid and wasting of time.
Excuse me if i'm wrong said here, but this was (for what i heard) kinda the reason.
Goki
Agovic
Sergeant Knight at Arms
- Do you like the Official Battle Server?Yes
- Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?Yes, TDM, but the one that has at least 50 players and is in EU
- Which gamemode is your favorite?Battle/TDM
- Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?As long as I don't have to download every one of them but they're in the next patch - of course!
- Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?Battle gamemoded servers - NO, other gamemodes <in my case TDM!> - YES
_Nogger_
Sergeant
Do you like the Official Battle Server?
Yes, cause there are not only pros like on the duel servers and thats good for my ego
Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
Yes really like capture the flag or conquest, but sometimes I think I'm the only person wo likes this gamemodes..
Which gamemode is your favorite?
TDM/Conquest
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
Maybe... sometimes I m really bored because of this old maps.
Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
A public TDM Server would be nice.
Yes, cause there are not only pros like on the duel servers and thats good for my ego
Do u think there should be another huge Server with an other gamemode?
Yes really like capture the flag or conquest, but sometimes I think I'm the only person wo likes this gamemodes..
Which gamemode is your favorite?
TDM/Conquest
Do you think there should be new maps/a new rotation on the official Battle Server?
Maybe... sometimes I m really bored because of this old maps.
Do you think we dont need more than the famous Official Battle Server?
A public TDM Server would be nice.
Well, theres a TDM server
5th_KGL_Musket, I think its one of the best TDM server out there , isnt it?
5th_KGL_Musket, I think its one of the best TDM server out there , isnt it?
Evanovic
Knight at Arms
TheBlackVampire 说:Well, theres a TDM server
5th_KGL_Musket, I think its one of the best TDM server out there , isnt it?
It is good. However, they have a really annoying map roster. Half the time you get a 'random generated' map which is just awfully hilly and mountaineous and impossible to play on.
A TDM server needs just a couple small/medium maps like: Arabian Village, Sjotofta, House 1 etc. and that's all. No big maps, no random maps.
Also Musket does not often allow any cavalry at all. I think there should always be allowed at least a little bit of cavalry, so that more people can enjoy the server.
If you ever make your own TDM server I think you could make it better than Musket in those ways. ^
Evan
L3git Squig Herder
Knight
The thing that drives me crazy is the lack of new maps. The ones we have now are just so... old. Hopefully with the update there will be totally new maps. ( )
)Well the problem, as I see it, with some of the current maps, is that they have little flaws in them that can severely harm balance and enjoyment. For example, the map with the infamous tower (accessed by a ladder) would be better if there was either more than one way to access the tower (preferably give the tower an interior with a ground floor door to break down, but that is surely a lot of modelling work) or put the tower (and obviously the rest of the little fort) equidistant from the two spawn points. As it stands, one team is very close to the fort, and despite there being a little village near the second team's spawn, it is never sees more action than a rare cavalry skirmish because it has no walls and the fort is clearly the more significant defensive position. Thus most of the map is wasted and the first team gets a large advantage, especially if they decide to camp in the tower (and why not, the enemy will use it otherwise and it is a big advantage).
For a mod with teams of equal size, such imbalances are a problem. There are of course other maps where one side is gifted with a strong defensive position, such as La Haye Sainte. On this one, I find much of the defensive work isn't even fun, because there is that ladder onto the roof tops for people to go dancing around on. Try running on a pitched roof in real life and you are likely to slide off it to your death or fall through it, especially if it is made of straw/hay as the barn is. And yet people are able to shoot over the apex of the pitched roofs and then duck down again, it is silly. Not to mention that in real life all the buildings would have accessible interiors, and the enemy could shoot through the tiles/hay from beneath or set the building on fire. Roof tops aren't generally a good place to fight from if the enemy can access the building or shoot at you from all sides, but these disadvantages mean nothing in a computer game. The barn itself would make a more realistic and, in my opinion, far more enjoyable defensive position (and sometimes good little fights do take place here) but the little windows are not positioned well enough to be used to shoot into or out of the barn. It seems like a position wasted, a shame (is it a native building or custom made? The shame is more if someone has put the work into it and not got it quite right).
One of the older maps, the one where there is a wooden fort with only a gate left ajar for access and indestructible walls, is of course very imbalanced. It relies on the sportsmanship of the defending side to make it interesting by coming out rather than camping until the enemy has been atrophied by cannon fire. Charging into the fort simply isn't viable; it is hard enough to wriggle through the gate one man at a time, and the gate is coverable from the rampart. Updating this fort to use the fantastic destructible material of other buildings in the mod would solve the problem, and replacing the gate with openable (by defenders) and destructible doors would be a further improvement.
So in conclusion, I would prefer it if the current maps with balance and gameplay problems such as the ones I have detailed above were either amended or scrapped and replaced with new maps. If extra maps are added they would be welcome, but much more so if they can avoid the issues of existing maps and provide a fun match.
P.S. I don't mean to denigrate the work done by the makers of these maps, they have certainly provided a lot of fun for me and many other M&M players I am sure, and I can appreciate how hard it must be to try and forsee how a match will play out on your map.
For a mod with teams of equal size, such imbalances are a problem. There are of course other maps where one side is gifted with a strong defensive position, such as La Haye Sainte. On this one, I find much of the defensive work isn't even fun, because there is that ladder onto the roof tops for people to go dancing around on. Try running on a pitched roof in real life and you are likely to slide off it to your death or fall through it, especially if it is made of straw/hay as the barn is. And yet people are able to shoot over the apex of the pitched roofs and then duck down again, it is silly. Not to mention that in real life all the buildings would have accessible interiors, and the enemy could shoot through the tiles/hay from beneath or set the building on fire. Roof tops aren't generally a good place to fight from if the enemy can access the building or shoot at you from all sides, but these disadvantages mean nothing in a computer game. The barn itself would make a more realistic and, in my opinion, far more enjoyable defensive position (and sometimes good little fights do take place here) but the little windows are not positioned well enough to be used to shoot into or out of the barn. It seems like a position wasted, a shame (is it a native building or custom made? The shame is more if someone has put the work into it and not got it quite right).
One of the older maps, the one where there is a wooden fort with only a gate left ajar for access and indestructible walls, is of course very imbalanced. It relies on the sportsmanship of the defending side to make it interesting by coming out rather than camping until the enemy has been atrophied by cannon fire. Charging into the fort simply isn't viable; it is hard enough to wriggle through the gate one man at a time, and the gate is coverable from the rampart. Updating this fort to use the fantastic destructible material of other buildings in the mod would solve the problem, and replacing the gate with openable (by defenders) and destructible doors would be a further improvement.
So in conclusion, I would prefer it if the current maps with balance and gameplay problems such as the ones I have detailed above were either amended or scrapped and replaced with new maps. If extra maps are added they would be welcome, but much more so if they can avoid the issues of existing maps and provide a fun match.
P.S. I don't mean to denigrate the work done by the makers of these maps, they have certainly provided a lot of fun for me and many other M&M players I am sure, and I can appreciate how hard it must be to try and forsee how a match will play out on your map.
