A bunch of thoughts

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Munchkin9

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First I want to say that I am not entirely suggesting these ideas they are just thoughts that passed through my head. Also some of these have been mentioned before but I want to put some of my own thoughts tegoether plz forgive me if i am breaking a few rules.Just to tell you Mount and Blade does not have to be a super-history-perfect sim. It is a fun rpg GAME so give it a break will ya?

1. Something that has been menioend many times is dual wielding. . Dual wielding would be fun because it adds a choice to add combat fun ( i find it very boring to block wit ha sheild)

2. In combat I have noticed that though I hate using shields it is impossible to fight more then one or (if you are really good) 2 opponents. You get killed. So I think their should be some balancing that once you become mega good sword fither there is a way to be able to fight many opponents. (Some possible examples: One hit kills and attack faster, blocks block all attackers and you can block faster...)

3.This is not something I am saying should be or can be implamented into the M&B system but it would be cool if you could make attackiing smoother then just the: pull back, swing, pull back maybe a different dircetion, swing... though effective it gets reptitive (something like when you press and hold the left mous button the weapon is under you control and you move the mouse to attack, or maye block. And when you hold the right mouse button you control the weapon but with a different center of gravity making it easier to move into block).

4. Also something I do want to be put in the game is: When a person gets hit in the head they usually die unless they have nothing their vital.

5. Something else: It did happen that people got knocked of horses by heavy hits or arrows without the horse dying. Comeone it would be cool and it would weaken the overly rigged horsemans because horses being so strong and fast are hard to kill and lets the rider kill you easily.

6. Somthing else with hoses: It would be REALLY cool if you could wissle or something to make you horse (or maybe another if you have good "horse skill" or something of the sort) come to you (this goes with #5).

7.Completly random but it would be cool if troops where a bit smarter and move in more logical formations not one big long line going straight TOWARDS the enemy (picture: -----------> Enemy , should be something like:       Enemy)
                                                                                              ^
                                                                                         -------------

8.Something about lances: I dont think the player should pull the lance up after hitting I mean what is the point of that. Though this wold make lances to powerful so look at the breaking lance post.

9. Another thing: You know how you couch a lance when on horse back? well you should be able to do sometihing like that on the ground but it is when you are not moving so a charging enemy skewers himself on it  :twisted:

That is all for now PLZ DONT YELL AT ME BECAUSE I AM "TYRING TO CHANGE THE GAME" I AM NOT JUST SUGGESTING CERTAIN THOUGHTS THAT PASSED THROUGH MY MIND IF YOU HAVE OVERLLY MEAN THINGS TO SAY JUST IGNORE. For those that are not thinking of yelling at me, thank you and I am just saying that because in a different forum for a different game I was yelled at a booted for saying such ideas.
 
Munchkin9 说:
Just to tell you Mount and Blade does not have to be a super-history-perfect sim. It is a fun rpg GAME so give it a break will ya?


2. In combat I have noticed that though I hate using shields it is impossible to fight more then one or (if you are really good) 2 opponents. You get killed. So I think their should be some balancing that once you become mega good sword fither there is a way to be able to fight many opponents. (Some possible examples: One hit kills and attack faster, blocks block all attackers and you can block faster...)
This is what the majority (at least the vocal part) is against, it shouldn't be made "unrealistic" just because it can be done. In reality, very few even highly trained warriors could take on several opponents at a time, no matter how skilled they were
 
Well see like you say "In reality" well it isnt reality is it. Its a game and that is the point.

By the way while your there 2 handed swords could not be held in one hand

Nobody could be become trained with a sword that fast

Where is are your servant if you are a knight you would have at least a squire.

Not many people owned horses they where very expansive you would have no luck of getting one.

How does everybody know on whos side you are on?

why would alone horseman go around like that just killing people.

If ou join and army you are IN the army not doing secret missions on the side. Aregular would be thrown in the army without a second thought and it would be so hard to get higher in rank.

I could go on with this for a while. Point is: This game is already not very realistic. It is just done in a very halfhearted way making it right in between it needs to go to one side not inbetween.
 
Munchkin9 说:
3.This is not something I am saying should be or can be implamented into the M&B system but it would be cool if you could make attackiing smoother then just the: pull back, swing, pull back maybe a different dircetion, swing... though effective it gets reptitive (something like when you press and hold the left mous button the weapon is under you control and you move the mouse to attack, or maye block. And when you hold the right mouse button you control the weapon but with a different center of gravity making it easier to move into block).         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
    I think just about everything you suggested has been suggested before/was pointless, except for the part I picked out above.
That is actually a really good idea and would make gameplay much more fluid. However, be careful how far it is taken--it can lead to the dreaded action/rpg combo fighting. FURIoUS ATTACK OF RAPID FINIsHING!!111 Rapid attack+block+finisher=TEH RAGE ATTACK!!!1

Munchkin9 说:
Its a game and that is the point.
I could go on with this for a while. Point is: This game is already not very realistic. It is just done in a very halfhearted way making it right in between it needs to go to one side not inbetween.
    You are totally wrong, there. I have posted before in the dual wielding section a long thing about this, but here is a summary:
Of course, M&B can't be 100% realistic--if it were, then it wouldn't be any fun at all, now would it? You kill one guy; you manage to get through a battle between two lords. If starvation doesn't get you, then your second fight will. Now, does the fact that we can't get it perfect keep us from trying? Does it stop us from striving to make it accurate? You might notice that M&B has no potions, magic, etc. in it. It is by far the most realistic action game out. I will update this later.
    EDIT: :???: I can't find it! I know I posted it in the Two-Weapon Fighting thread!

 
Stupid grindfests:
Everything DnD
Diablo and it's infinite clones
Elder Scrolls
Every MMO

Semi realistic medieval games:
Mount & Blade.

The entire industry already caters to your tastes, why come here and try to ruin the only one that caters to mine?
 
Jagger: No because i am out

Pope: I hate you for insulting the elder scrolls those are awsome games that diserve repsect.

Gregor: Thx for the suport but i am not sure you got me I dont mean combos, but if that is not what you meant either then nm.

Gregor: I am sry a disagree. You can not stay in the middle like that players get confused they ar not sure what limits they  have because at some points it is very realistic, and the suddenly they get thrown into something that doesnt make and sense in realism and you get confused. (ex: I start killing people with the bow and when the enemy gets close I get all exited and charge dying miserably on someones sword, arghh pissed.

Gregor: also so what there are no potions I find potions very dum because they have no point. I just want it so that when you become very good you can actually KILL people without having to use a horse.

 
Then go play TES. Don't try to turn Mount & Blade into a generic lifeless single player MMO.
 
Munchkin9 说:
Jagger: No because i am out

Pope: I hate you for insulting the elder scrolls those are awsome games that diserve repsect.

Gregor: Thx for the suport but i am not sure you got me I dont mean combos, but if that is not what you meant either then nm.

Gregor: I am sry a disagree. You can not stay in the middle like that players get confused they ar not sure what limits they  have because at some points it is very realistic, and the suddenly they get thrown into something that doesnt make and sense in realism and you get confused. (ex: I start killing people with the bow and when the enemy gets close I get all exited and charge dying miserably on someones sword, arghh pissed.

Gregor: also so what there are no potions I find potions very dum because they have no point. I just want it so that when you become very good you can actually KILL people without having to use a horse.

Please die as soon as possible. Either that, or castrate yourself. You are not welcome to the gene-pool, as well as any other sub-90 IQ dumbasses out there.

Only a retard would do ANYTHING like you said. Let me reenact it for you.

"ololol im so leet i shut ppl wif my bo ololol im gunan go keel ppl wif my handax now wait wtf wy am i ded o it mite b bcuz i chargd into teh middle of a crowd of ppl wif sharp things"
 
Hardly complimantery.

Like i said in the beggining post if you dont have anything worthwhile to say SHUTUP!! thankyou

Or at least put your insults in something that will continue the post helpfully
 
This is a forum. I am allowed to express myself in any way I please, even if it is being un-complimentary to ****sticks like you.

If you don't want people disagreeing with you, either

A: Lock this stupid thread and consider suicide,

or

B: Stop posting stupid ****ty ideas that have already been posted, flamed, and locked.
 
Elder Scrolls is not really a grindfest (except Oblivion because there's not enough quests) so I disagree on that but I agree 100% that you are Darwin in action.
 
Arab: It was sarcastic I know perfectly well that you are unable to contain that ****hole that our mother gave you. And I would like to say that if you read the first post (assuming you CAN read) I am saying that none of these ideas are really fully suggestions they are a bunch of thoughts. So obviously I am perfectly okay for people to disagree. 3rd I dont feel like suiciding though I might consider it consideringthat I can get away from people like you (assuming you are human).
 
Stupid grindfest is the best terms I could think of to describe modern RPGs. The earlier ES games don't really fit, but with oblivions sales I doubt they'll go back. Selling ph4t l3wt for 12 year old girls to put on their ponies is way more profitable.
 
Do you have a complete and total misunderstanding of wit and punctuation? You fail at both, I'm not sure if you've noticed yet. Your "Thoughts" are INDEED ****ing suggestions, so get over yourself. THINK. Also, if I can't read, how can I type? Better than you, at that. I'm guessing you're, what, 12? Watch this before you do anything EVER again in an internet forum.

http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/posting.html?
 
I can write perfectly fine it is your utter stupidity that stops me from concetrating. On my age your are considerably of, so much even that I thank you. Yes they are suggestions in their own way but you can notice that some of these can not be put into the game so they are just thoughts that will never count. Those which are possible are still not being shoved down your throats (though i would like to shove something down YOUR throat but the law forbids me).
 
Heh you are right, I ask for a peace after all I need to get to rest evantually.

Well it was nice (and fun) meeting you Arab hope we will talk again soon.
 
Children, children!!! This is no way to play! Shake hands and make up. Remember: You are going to see each other tomorrow in the playground, and it won't be different then if you don't accept your differences now. ArabArcher, I personally you are being a wee bit to harsh, even by forum standards, and Munchkin, you REALLY don't need to post things that have already been posted. Take it from me, I've gotten flamed a few times for posting things repetitively. I know you said you wanted to reiterate those subjects, but we already have other topics going on those subjects. Please keep that in mind.

And if any of you are going to flame me for saying the above, then to heck with you.
 
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