400 Nords vs 80 Vaegirs lost Autocalc

[Fuffles]

That seriously pissed me off.

Looking over the battle reports it was stuff like "Your casualties 100, theirs 0" over and over again. Something needs to be done to fix this broken mechanic.

edit: a battle following this I am told the amount of troops we have available is 230 vs 270. I get in, and we are never reinforced. What's going on? I'm supposed to fight 270 troops with 45 troops?

 

[Baguette Eater]

For the second part, that mean you are crushing your enemy and that you dont need reinforcement, it will come when your troops numbers are getting low.

 

[kweassa]

The "Battlesize" option determines how many soldiers are depicted on the field at a given time. Therefore, when you have something like 100 Allies, 100 Yours and 100 Enemies at a 100 Battlesize setting, the battle advantage is calculated around 2:1 odds, and therefore something like 33 Allies, 34 of your troops, and 33 enemies will be at the field. When a certain ratio of troops are dead/wounded/routed and gone, reinforcements kick in.

 

[Ruthven]

Don't use autocalc. Ever.

 

[Knil]

Don't use autocalc. Ever.

This ^^, some of the biggest epic fail of a formula 

 

[Fuffles]

The "Battlesize" option determines how many soldiers are depicted on the field at a given time. Therefore, when you have something like 100 Allies, 100 Yours and 100 Enemies at a 100 Battlesize setting, the battle advantage is calculated around 2:1 odds, and therefore something like 33 Allies, 34 of your troops, and 33 enemies will be at the field. When a certain ratio of troops are dead/wounded/routed and gone, reinforcements kick in.

No, I mean I was never reinforced after my initial 45 had gone down. 5 killed or w/e, 40 ally casualties and I'm never reinforced, it's just me fighting off wave after wave.

 

[darkweaver]

Don't use autocalc. Ever.

It's not so bad if you have high tactics.  Yeah you'll lose a top-tier unit to looters here and there, but on the whole, I've won non-ridiculous odds battles w/ it (ie, 2:1 my advantage) without significant losses.  Well, by significant, I mean "nothing that me and my companions with tons of points in trainer couldn't fix in a day or two"...

Sometimes it's just worth the time you save, when you're really trying to do something else and bump into yet another group of 30 sea raiders by accident...

I'm guessing the OP has no/little points in tactics....

 

[Vigil80]

Even so, how much "tactics" should a field battle of 400 vs. 80 require? Unless it was 400 recruits against 80 knights, which I doubt.

 

[darkweaver]

I'm not saying autocalc is working particularly well, just that in some cases, it's actually ok to use.  It should never be as good as the player, but yeah, I'd love it if "even odds" battles wound up with similar casualties on each side, even regardless of troop quality.  Don't even get me started on trying to siege with autocalc...

 

[FrisianDude]

To be honest; autocalc never ****s up that majorly for me. Though of course, sometimes a knight snuffs it against looters, but it's usually okay.

 

[Snall]

I've used auto-calc plenty of times once I get knocked out hard.  ...well, when I have # AND skilled men advantage anyway...

 

[mar5ha11]

I only use autocalc when I have > 2:1 odds. Even then I am pissed off at the results sometimes. I use it very, VERY sparingly.

 

[DameGreyWulf]

What in the world would you use for at all? Don't you love charging into battle, busting heads? Even if it is 100 against 10?

I don't know, I find it great fun to completely swarm a bunch of Looters.

 

[Vigil80]

I generally feel the same. I happily fight most battles manually whether it's a constant rival with his two best buddies, or a pitiful little band of looters.

 

[Fuffles]

Let me rephrase this:

I went into a 400 vs 80 battle. Advantage was on my side. I got knocked out because after 25 or so casualties we had no reinforcements coming. Just me against 50 or so.

 

[laheja]

I use autocalc when i have like atleast 5:1 odds just don't see the point of going against enemy myself when enemy has 10 men's and i have 90 swadian knights who gallop ahead of me and kill enemy before me anyway.
After the first battle theres option to leave battle as well  (at least in some cases)