22nd Server New Rules + Leadership - Live

[Plazek]

We have removed most of our rules however we retain some as you can read below. This has been done for several reasons, that I do not feel the need to explain. If you do not like it go play on one of the servers with a thousand rules. If you want to cry about how you got brutally murdered you can do so but we do not care, if you get brutally murdered then sucks to be you but that is the game. If you have valid complaints and are willing to explain them to us in a civilised manner on our website then please do so by all means. However you must be ready to help yourself, we want player driven solutions to player driven problems.

www.22nd.eu

The New Super Admins:

22nd_King_Plazek
22nd_Duke_Biteme
22nd_Sgt_Coffee
22nd_Mil_Sareth
22nd_Mil_Philly
22nd_Pst_Scorp
Praetorian

The New Admins:

Kazzan
22nd_Vet_Grey_Warden

The rules:

General Server Rules:
http://22ndbattalion.xippy.org/index.php?page=13&CatID=38097&PostID=190649
We tend go go easy on article 1, especially on this server. Would not be much of an RP if you had to do what we say! Bar of course rule breaking.

PW Specific:
-Randoming is looked down upon. If you must engage in it then do so as a bandit. Randoming is defined as killing without justified reason.
-Any person may be kicked or banned at any time if believed to be detrimental to game/roleplay on the server.

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A key guideline. This is our swiss army knife of rules, it allows us to remove you for a wide variety of offences. I chose the new admins because they have a good understanding of RP style games. I trust them to use their abilities wisely and so I grant them this one. Play this mod as you are supposed to and you will have no issues with us. Repeatedly troll, take advantage of or in any way abuse the freedom we grant you on this server and your are liable to be kicked and or banned. For example: spawn killing

Case Studies:

The case of bandit groups killing all other bandits:

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New rules looks good but what about non-official idiotical rules which every stupid schoolar can create?For example yesterday some1 maked "rule": if you are bandit and not in TS  you will be killed by other bandits without any roleplay reason.In fact some TK-loving kids killed every bandit even if "enemy" bandit joined TS.Also not every1 have microphone so I think amdinistration of server should to do something with those "rulecreators".

That is permitted provided that:

(1) Depending on the situation being a bandit can be enough to justify what would otherwise be random killing against anyone even a bandit. Excessively doing so, to the point that it appears your taking the piss may make the admin ask for some more RP however.

(2) Having your own bandit gang that is enemies with all other bandits seems like a valid RP reason to kill other bandits. So long as it is well known that that is the case then you can hardly call them killing other bandits "randoming".

Essentially if you want to make a bandit group that goes round killing all the other bandits and you can justify why. Then it is a perfectly valid roleplay.

Now please if you have any issues with any of my new admins please let me know. I take this seriously, hence the total revamp when it became apparant to me the old system was not working. I want to encourage good but free RP. This involves the criminal element as much as the citizens and factions but it also involves responsible and intelligent play. The players themselves also have to take responsibility for the happenings in the game. Even if it is simply providing some screenshots or reports of people who go against the spirit of the game.

Keep it constructive.

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Want to be an admin on the 22nd PW server? Write me a PM saying why I should let you. Provide examples of what you might do in certain situations and the conflicting interests you will be trying to balance. Show me a necessary understanding of the type of RP and general gameplay I want to cultivate on this server and I will strongly consider you. Oh and use punctuation and spell properly or do not bother.

If you want to be less original then try answer these:

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1) How should an admin act on a PW server?
2)a) What sort of actions undermine gameplay? (provide example)?
b) How would you deal with your example if you were an admin?
3)a) What is an example of good yet controversial gameplay (provide example)?
b) How would you deal with the cry babies?

Do not waste my time. The penalties for people who apply and then abuse the privelidge will be excessively harsh. The penalties for people I invite will be less harsh as it is partially my fault for picking you. But I will still be mean!

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[Svenn]

I cant see how this would be an improvement.

People have said that the 22nd was a bit of a free-for-all, but in my opinion it wasnt all that bad. In fact i quite enjoyed it. most of the time when i was unarmed i wasnt killed and most of the time when i was in a faction no one went traitor.

I think your decision to make it an actual free for all will be a detriment. I havnt had a chance to play this map yet but im gonna assume theres still long runs to the mines from spawn. By allowing unarmed killing a large amount of players without horses are gonna die pretty quickly - and that will lead to ragequits.

On a separate note; has something to do with the server changed (other than the map) in the last few days? all of a sudden on the server list the ping for me is huge. 3 or 4 days ago it was one of the lowest pings. And i always get a CTD when i try to connect (i assume this is due to the high ping).

 

[terrorib]

so no more rules 
yeeehaaaa
well atleast people cant complain anymore
no rules no rule breakers

so just to be clear,
u can do whatever the F u want as long as it has a rp reason for it

 

[Kazzan]

Oh yeah, but no radoming or killing unarmed. Unless you have a reason.

 

[Korgoth]

Can you make it clear about killing unarmed when at war with people? Blues kept attacking me unarmed so i killed them and killed them again when they came back unamred to pick up their weapons.. They all complain about killing unarmed. So i stop and kick anyone who attacks unarmed. I kick 2 people and they come back and complain more! WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?

 

[Abaddon_Acker]

cool...mostly.

 

[Plazek]

Can you make it clear about killing unarmed when at war with people? Blues kept attacking me unarmed so i killed them and killed them again when they came back unamred to pick up their weapons.. They all complain about killing unarmed. So i stop and kick anyone who attacks unarmed. I kick 2 people and they come back and complain more! WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?

You are allowed to kill unarmed. So long as you have a valid reason to do so that is consistent with the idea of RP'ing. As you are not allowed to random.

so no more rules 
yeeehaaaa
well atleast people cant complain anymore
no rules no rule breakers

so just to be clear,
u can do whatever the F u want as long as it has a rp reason for it

So long as you have a valid reason to do so that is consistent with the idea of RP'ing. You can do anything.

 

[terrorib]

ima go hax becaus im superman in the server

 

[robbyg]

Just for the ppl that dont read the forums, could you update the Intro Screen pls?

 

[Lope de Rojas]

OK, I've to say it...

There are some things that I hardly liked in this server (mostly random killings and those things), I know that **** happens sometimes, and it's not completely a fault of the admins of the server... you know, there is always time to complain of everything, I don't like this, I think it's a mess, blah blah blah..., but that's not the thing I'm going to say today.

This night in the server has been the best "game" (because of RP -when we could- and funny moments) I've ever played in any warband mod (even I can say it was the best game since I play warband)... The Calradian Marshall Lady Lua had too much work to find an infamous bandit and take him to prison... in her way she lost many beloved friends, and met honorable bandits, she fought against vicious warriors and brigands... that was really great.

Thank you Hector, Archevious and of course, thank you, Kazzan the bandit. 

Hope the RP in the server won't be as great as it is only at this hours (5:30AM).

 

[Plazek]

Awesome

Though I suspect it will be for a while. It is something however that we hope to cultivate.

 

[Arch]

Thank you Hector, Archevious and of course, thank you, Kazzan the bandit. 

No prob! It was a pleasure rping! As to what else you wrote in your post, I agree, there were some bad things , but it was one of the only good full rp "storyline" I got into for awhile.

 

[Zapilshik]

New rules looks good but what about non-official idiotical rules which every stupid schoolar can create?For example yesterday some1 maked "rule": if you are bandit and not in TS  you will be killed by other bandits without any roleplay reason.In fact some TK-loving kids killed every bandit even if "enemy" bandit joined TS.Also not every1 have microphone so I think amdinistration of server should to do something with those "rulecreators".

 

[Plazek]

That is permitted.

(1) Depending on the situation being a bandit can be enough to justify what would otherwise be random killing against anyone even a bandit. Excessively doing so, to the point that it appears your taking the piss may make the admin ask for some more RP however.

(2) Having your own bandit gang that is enemies with all other bandits seems like a valid RP reason to kill other bandits. So long as it is well known that that is the case then you can hardly call them killing other bandits "randoming".

Essentially if you want to make a bandit group that goes round killing all the toher bandits and you can justify why. Then it is a perfectly valid roleplay.

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In other news, I released a slightly updated version of my map. There are a few bug fixes, a couple new places to find resources, a reshuffle of some ladders and one major new feature. In the city there is now a tavern. I made it from scratch with my own two hands, no host buildings this time.

If you find any bugs please let me know!
If you have any suggestions for the 1st floor then let me know too! The 1st floor is still under construction you see

Also for the next version I am considering fortifying the island village somewhat so you can only access it by the docks and perhaps one or two other entrances. Yes or no?

 

[Zapilshik]

Essentially if you want to make a bandit group that goes round killing all the toher bandits and you can justify why. Then it is a perfectly valid roleplay.

Roleplay?Its not some real D&D and not full computer RPG,such freedom simply allows to do any nonsense under a pretext of playing roles.With that rules I can create some White guy and kill every1 by saying "Im a fanatic,I will punish you all in the name of God" or "Im technoviking I will kill every1 coz I without clothes and without brains".
What's next?Yellows will kill yellows,Reds will kill Reds?

 

[Plazek]

Being a traitor is a perfectly valid roleplay. As is being a disguised assassin. Personally I think leading a rebellion would be epic. Just like being one of the lost heirs from M&B Native.
Sure if you want you can be the anti white fanatic but I am sure if you RP it properly, ie so they are aware of you. That you will not find it so easy, nor probably that rewarding. On the other hand you may start a whole new anto white religious fanatic movement, which would probably be great. If your capable of getting a following. As for a load of naked crazy vikings running around pillaging raping and slaughtering, err yes please! Just do it right!

However note rule (4) which allows us to remove you for "undermining" the roleplay. If we thought someones justification is particularly poor then we can pull that on them.

 

[Kazzan]

Excelent. That totally means I can kick anyone at any time. xD

The admins will have a hard time deciding on wether to do it or not, though.

 

[terrorib]

OK, I've to say it...

There are some things that I hardly liked in this server (mostly random killings and those things), I know that **** happens sometimes, and it's not completely a fault of the admins of the server... you know, there is always time to complain of everything, I don't like this, I think it's a mess, blah blah blah..., but that's not the thing I'm going to say today.

This night in the server has been the best "game" (because of RP -when we could- and funny moments) I've ever played in any warband mod (even I can say it was the best game since I play warband)... The Calradian Marshall Lady Lua had too much work to find an infamous bandit and take him to prison... in her way she lost many beloved friends, and met honorable bandits, she fought against vicious warriors and brigands... that was really great.

Thank you Hector, Archevious and of course, thank you, Kazzan the bandit. 

Hope the RP in the server won't be as great as it is only at this hours (5:30AM).

damn that must have happend after i left 
dont blame me 
yea the server has its tpo moments well most of times, but just sometimes  like everyone is just a randommer
i still have faith in server 

 

[Kazzan]

Oh yeah, thanks Lua for the fun. T'was worth it, to stay up 'till  6AM for.

 

[Arch]

Oh yeah, thanks Lua for the fun. T'was worth it, to stay up 'till  6AM for.

Oh no Archevious fun?