1257 AD Middle Europe

[Csatádi]

Polish lords mostly use lamellar, scale or mail hauberk and heraldry symbol was only on the shield.

Are you sure? What I have seen on reconstructions they wear only mail and nothing else.

 

[Raudentius]

He he, on reconstruction yes, because Mail looking best! Reality was differrent, mix of eastern and western equipment.

 

[Csatádi]

I have seen the pictures of the Maciejowski bible (French work). They draw CoAs on shields many times but never on surcoats. Time frame is the same, it was created between 1244 and 1254.

 

[Raudentius]

Yes, it is possible. But heraldry signs on surcoat was commonly used by crusaders in 12th. century and some nobles copy this manner (for example Vítek z Prčice, Bohemian nobleman and crusader).

 

[qwerty123]

Nice idea to add Lithuania

 

[Licko90]

Is this finished? I can't wait to play with croatia.

 

[Szentgyörgyi]

Is this finished? I can't wait to play with croatia.

I don't know if you followed the discussion, but we decided there won't be an independent Croatia. There will be, however, a croatian culture, with a smaller croatian troop-tree, and the croatian settlements and lords will be part of the Kingdom of Hungary. This will be the best solution to portray the situation of medieval Croatia in our mod, within the limits of the game engine.

 

[Licko90]

Is this finished? I can't wait to play with croatia.

I don't know if you followed the discussion, but we decided there won't be an independent Croatia. There will be, however, a croatian culture, with a smaller croatian troop-tree, and the croatian settlements and lords will be part of the Kingdom of Hungary. This will be the best solution to portray the situation of medieval Croatia in our mod, within the limits of the game engine.

yes I am the one who asked to return the croatia and when or if this mod is out i am going to play with hungary using croatian soldiers i just wana know if this mod is finished

 

[Szentgyörgyi]

At first I thought I might keep it as a surprise for the release, but I guess it would be good advertisement for the mod, so here's a pic of all the unique armors for the hungarian and croatian lords. Right now I'm working on czeh lords' armor.

隐藏: heraldic armors for hungarian and croatian lords

 

[damnimbored25]

Looking good.

 

[Licko90]

wery good but i dont get it is this out pls som1 tell me and again great i like cratian ones keep up the good work

 

[Szentgyörgyi]

Previous versions of the mod have been released. You'll find the link to the last version on the first page of this thread (the  first post). Right now we are working on a new (improved) version.

 

[Raudentius]

I found one more Czech noble family - Hrabišici. Csabi check my topic on page 24. To heraldry, in 1257 use this sign Boreš z Rýznburka, one of most powerful bohemian noble. Create yellow (or yellow black) surcoat with rake sighn (not lions and rakes, only rake). Thanks!

 

[maq2os]

how many and which castles and cities are you going to add in Lithuania?
And if you need any help about Lithuania maybe i can help you a bit i don't know history much.. But I'm Lithuanian
Oh, And when are you going to release the new version? I can't wait to play as a vassal of Lithuania ;D

 

[maq2os]

Hi, this is troop tree for another minor faction - Lithuania:
Lithuanian infantry line:
1) Lithuanian_Valstietis 2) Lithuanian_Kovotojas(fighter) 3) Lithuanian_Karis(warrior) 4) Lithuanian_Ietininkas(spearman)
        4) Lithuanian_Kirvis_Karis(axeman)
Lithuanian Horseman line:
1) Lithuanian_Valstietis 2) Lithuanian_Kovotojas 3) Lithuanian_Raitininkas 4) Lithuanian_Bajoria(noble)
                                                                      4) Lithuanian_Riteris
Lithuanian Archer line:
1) Lithuanian_Valstietis 2) Lithuanian_Lankininkas 3) Lithuanian_Baltic_Lankininkas 4) Lithuanian_Elitas_Lankininkas
                    4) Lithuanian_Zirgas_Lankininkas(horse archer)

If somebody find some gramatik error in this lithuanian units names,(or be able create better troop tree) than quote my post, thanks!

Lithuanian infantry line:
1) Lithuanian_Valstietis 2) Lithuanian_Kovotojas(fighter) 3) Lithuanian_Karys(warrior) 4) Lithuanian_Ietininkas(spearman)
        4) Lithuanian_Karys_Su_Kirviu(warrior with an axe)
Lithuanian Horseman line:
1) Lithuanian_Valstietis 2) Lithuanian_Kovotojas 3) Lithuanian_Raitininkas 4) Lithuanian_Bajoras(nobleman)
                                                                      4) Lithuanian_Riteris
Lithuanian Archer line:
1) Lithuanian_Valstietis 2) Lithuanian_Lankininkas 3) Lithuanian_Baltic_Lankininkas 4) Lithuanian_Elitas_Lankininkas
                    4) Lithuanian_Raitelis_Lankininkas(rider archer)
I fixed some troops names

 

[Raudentius]

Thanks! All help is welcomed! If you wish to help us, so check list of lithuanian lords on page 11 on this topic. To cities, we maybee use you help with this. release date is realistic in 2-3 monts, becouse only I and Lord Szentgyergy working on this mod....

 

[maq2os]

i just searched for some lords and i haven't found any that you didn't write
but .. i think Buteikis should be named as Butigeidis
and for the cities, if you need i can tell you the main cities and towns for Lithuania in the 13th century

 

[Raudentius]

I found this 11 lords in polish sources, some family members of king Mindaugas, some concurents etc.... All 11 lords live in 1257 and was minimum 18 years old. If you find better lords, so write to me, I add new lords into our lords list  To cities, this will be actual after some time. We plane create complete new map.

 

[Negro of Serbia]

I loved this mod on m&b, can't wait for it to get released for warband!  How's it progressing?

 

[Raudentius]

Progress is very slow.... But next version will be for M&B, not for warband.