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Gallia (7, ~260 fiefs):
Kingdom of France (45 + 17 fiefs: ~135):


Outlaws:

Eustace la Monk - Pirate & mercenary


Clerical Vassals & Lands ( 18 ):
Archbishop of Reims - Reims (City)
Archbishop of Laon - Laon (City)
Duke-Bishop of Langres - Langres (City)
Count-Bishop of Beauvais - Beauvais (City)
Count-Bishop of Chalons - Chalons-En-Champagne (City)
Count-Bishop of Noyon - Nayon (City)
Archbishop of Bourges - Bourges (City)
Archbishop of Sens - Sens (City)
Archbishop of Rouen - Rouen (City)
Archbishop of Tours - Tours (City)
Archbishop of Narbonne (Governor of Narbonne) - Tour Barberousse (Castle), Château de Villerouge-Termenès
Count-Bishops of Le Puy-en-Velay
Bishop of Avignon - Avignon (City), Châteauneuf-du-Pape (Castle)
Bishop of Le Mans - Le Mans (Town)
Bishop of Clermont - Clermond-Ferrand
Bishop of Bayeux - Bayeux (City)
Bishop of Nevers - Nevers (City)
Bishop of Orleans - Orleans (City)
Hospitalliers - Château de Condat
Abbot of St Giles - Chateau de Chombonas

Greater Noble Households and Lands (24):
Capet (47 fiefs) - Paris (City), Caen (City), Rouen (City), Melun (City), Mantes (City), Amiens (City), Angers (City), Arras (City), Evreux (City), Riom (City), Chinon (City), Saint-Quentin (Borough), Issodun (Borough), Vernon (Borough), Péronne-Somme (Castle), Grand Châtelet (Castle), Château de Falaise, Domaine de Villarceaux (Castle), Château de Baugé, Château de Regnéville, Château de Tournoël, Château de Louvre, Château de Conches-en-Ouche, Château de Beynes, Château Gaillard, Château de Langeais, Château de Saint-Germain-en-Laye, Châteaubriant, Château de Dourdan, Château d'Etampes, Chateau de Ranton, Château des comtes de Poitiers, Château_d'Arques-la-Bataille, Château de Gisors, Chateau de Montbazon, Chateau de Puivert, Château de Saumur, Château d'Ivry-la-Bataille, Château de Airvault, Vauclair Castle, Fort de Limaie (Castle), Château-sur-Epte, Château de Ham, Montagris (Town), Crepy-en-Valois (Town), La Ferté-Macé (Town), Vincennes Forest
Lusignan (7) - Château de Lusignan, Château Mélusine, Château de Parthenay, Château de Jarnac, Château de Villebois, Château de Cherveux, Château de Villeneuve-la-Comtesse
Comborn ( 8 ) - Limgoes (City), Châlus (Borough), Château de Aix, Château de Châlucet, Château de Jumilhac, Château d'Excideuil, Château de Bruzac, Auberoche (Town)
de Montfort (5) - Chateau Montfort-l'Amaury, Chateau de Termes, Château de Quillan, Donjon de Houdan, Château de Biron, Château_d'Aguilar
de Courtenay (4) (French absentee Latin Emperor) - Courtenay (Town), Auxerre (City), Tonnerre (City) , Château de Druyes
Mathefelon (4) - Durtal (Town), Chateau de Mathefelon, Château de Beauvais, Château de Saint-Ouën-des-Toits
de Montmirail (4) - Monmirail (Borough), Chateau de Oisy, Crèvecœur (Town), Meaux (Town)
Harcourt (3) - Harcourt (Borough), Elbeuf (Town), Château de Beaumesnil
de Châteaudun (3) - Mortagne-au-Perche (Borough), Châteaudun (Castle), Nogent-le-Rotrou (Town)
de Forez (3) - Forez (City), Tonnerre (City), Château de Montrond
de Blois (3) - Blois (City), Chartres (City),Chateau La Ferté-Villeneuil, Château de Châteaudun
de Chalon (3) - Chalon (Borough), Auxonne (Borough), Charolles (Town)
de Donzy (3) - Nevers (City), Château de Toucy, Château de la Motte Arthel
de Beaumont (2) - Beaumont (Town), Chateau Sainte-Suzanne
d'Auzon (2) - Chateau d'Auzon, Rilhac (town)
Dammartin (2) - Boulogne-sur-Mer (Town), Dammartin-en-Goële (Town)
Montmorency (3) - Montmorency (Borough), Chateau de Écouen, Tour de Montlhéry
Dreux (4) - Dreux (City), Chateau de Fere, Longueville (Town), Chateau de Braine
Capet de Boulogne (4) - Boulogne (City), Château de Montataire, Château d'Hardelot, Château de Domfront
de Périgord (1) - Thiviers (Town)
de Brienne (1) - Brienne-le-Château
Amboise (1) - Amboise (City)
de Auvergne (1) - Vic-le-Comte (Borough)
de Clermont (1) - Ailly (Town)


Lesser Noble Households and Lands ( 66 ):
Adhémar de Monteil - Chateau des Adhémar
Bacon du Molay - Chateau de Molay, Château de Colombières
de Barres - Château de Oissery, Château d'Ainay-le-Vieil
de Berzé - Château de Berzé
de Brézé - Chateau de Brézé
Beaumont-Bressuire (3) - Chateau de Bressuire, Donjon de Sainte-Suzanne, Château de Courtaliéru
de Beaujeu - Beaujeu (Borough), Trévoux (Borough)
Blanquefort - Chateau de Blanquefort
de Bourdeilles - Château de Bourdeilles
de Brosse - Chateau de Brosse
de Broyes - Commercy (Town), Châteauvillain (Town)
Bruni - Chateau de Montbrun
Burgundy de Montagu - Montagu (Borough)
de Bynac - Château de Beynac, Château de Commarque
Cadoc (Baillif) - Gaillon Castle
Carbonnel - Chateau de Canisy
Créquy - Créquy (Borough)
de Chailly - Château de Blandy-les-Tours, Melun (Town)
de Craon - Craon (Town)
Châteaubriant - Châteaubriant (Borough)
de Chevreuse - Château de la Madeleine
de Clermont - Château de Montataire
de Coucy - Château de Coucy
Courtenay-Capet (Butler) - Champignelles (Town), Château de Conches
de Curton - Chateau de Curton
Didonne - Château_de_Rioux, Château de Montendre
de Durban - Chateau de Durban
Durfot - Château de Gageac
Foucault - Chateau de Crozant, Chateau de Saint-Germain-Beaupre
Fossat - Chateau de Madaillan
de Glénay - Chateau de Glénay
de Gourville - Château de Gourville
du Hommet (Constable of Normandy) - Château de Beaumont-le-Richard, Château de Brix
Laval - Laval (City)
Lesor - Chateau de la Motte
Levis - Château de Lagarde, Château d'Auriac
Logé - Chateau de Bois Thibault
de Marthon - Château de Marthon
de Mayenne - Chateua de Mayenne
de Miramont - Château de Miramont
Maingot - Château d'Aulnay
de Marly - Marly (Borough), Château de Saissac
de Mello (Constable) - Saint-Bris-le-Vineux (Town), Chateau de Loches, Châtillon-sur-Indre (Castle)
de Melun-Bellay - Château de Montsoreau, Château de Montreuil-Bellay
Meudon - Castel de Meudon
Maulmont - Chateau de Châlus
de Malrepast - Chateau de Malrepast
Savary-de-Montbazon - Montbazon (Town)
de Montjean - Château de Montjean
de Muro- Château de Murol
Oger - Château de Touffou
Polignac - Chateau de Polignac
Pons de Bruyère - Chateau de Puivert
Pouancé - Chateua de Pouancé
de Rambures - Château de Rambures
de Richemont - Chateau de Richemont
des Roches (Seneschal of Anjou) - Château-du-Loir, Chateau de Sablé, Château de Brissac
de Rochechouart - Château de Rochechouart
de Rodez - Rodez (Borough), Carlat (Borough)
de Roe - Tour de Broue (Castle)
de-Rochechouart - Château de Brigueuil
de La Roche - Chateau de La Roche-Guyon
de La Roche-Foucauld - Château de Verteuil
de Roye (Treasurer) - Roye (Town), Germiny (Town)
Saint-Cassien - Chateau de Saint-Cassien
Saint-Omer - Saint-Omer (Borough)
de Sassy - Chatel de Sassy
de Salignac - Château de Salignac
Sanzay - Château de Sanzay
de Sully - Château de Sully
Taillefer - Château de Gençay
de Tancarville (Chamberlain of Normandy) - Chateau de Tancarville, Chateau de Mézidon
de Termes - Château de Termes, Chateau de Quéribus, Château de Padern
de Thoury - Château de Thoury
de Varennes - Vareness (Borough)
de Vogüé - Château de Vogüé
-------------------------------------Lordly Retainers----------------------------------------------
Bishop of Paris - Capet's - Governor of Paris
Jean III de Clément - Capet's - Marshal
Gauthier II de Nemours - Capet's - Grand Chamberlain
Guillaume de Angerville - Capet's - Marshal of Normandy
Guérin - Capet's - Chancellor

County of Toulouse (17):
de Toulouse (7 fiefs) - Toulouse (City), Château de Montréal-de-Sos, Château de Beaumont le Vieux, Château de Crestet, Château de Thouzon, Chateau de Vaison-la-Romaine, Châteaux de Bruniquel
de Casnac - Château de Castelnaud-la-Chapelle
Trencavel - Carcassonne (City)
Foix (6) - Château de Foix, Château de Calamès, Château de Pailhès, Château de Montaner, Château de Gudanes, Château de Miglos, Château de Niort-de-Sault
de Lara - Narbonne (City), Château de Saint-Martin de Toques
de Peyrepertuse - Château de Peyrepertuse
Poiters-Valentinois - Tour de Crest (Castle)
de Ventadour - Château de Ventadour
Termes (2) - Chateau de Aguilar, Chateau de Arques
Porcellet - Bourg-Vieux des Porcellets (Manor)
d'Uzes - Uzes (Borough)
d'Usson - Chateau d'Usson
Millau - Milau (Borough)
de Roquefort - Chateau de Belflou
de Cabaret - Chateau de Lastours
Suassac - Chateau de Saissac
Crussol - Château de Crussol
de Péreille - Château de Montségur
d'Arques - Chateau d'Arques
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Raymond de Recalto - Toulouse's - Seneschal of Aignes

County of Flanders (.14 fiefs: ~30 ):
de Flanders (14 fiefs) - Bruges (City), Ypres (City), Kortrijk (City), Biervliet (Town), Dunkerque (Borough), Poeke Castle, Laarne Castle, Wissekerke Castle, Male Castle, Wijnendale Castle, Écaussinnes-Lalaing Castle, Kasteel Cleyhem, Elverdinge Castle, Graventoren Castle
de Avenses - Avesnes (Borough)
van Oudenaarde - Oudenaarde (Borough), Pamele (Town)
Gavre - Le Gâvre (Town)
Gruuthuse - Kasteel Gruuthuse (Castle)
Grace - Grâce-Berleur (Town)
van Gent - Ghent (City), Bornem (Town)
van Zottegem - Zottegem (Town), Kasteel van Laarne
van der Vichte - Vichte Castle
de Roubaix - Roubaix (Town), Château d'Anvaing
Clutinck - Rivieren Castle
van Oostkerke - Kasteel van Oostkerke
van Gistel - Ingelmunster Castle
Heverlee - Kasteel van Arenberg (Castle)
-------------------------------------Lordly Retainers----------------------------------------------
Hermann von Velen - de Flander's - Marshal
Robert VII Béthune

Duchy of Brittany (15 fiefs: ~20):
Dreux - Nantes (City), Château des ducs de Bretagne, Château de Montbard, Château de la Rochepot
Avaugour - Saint-Brieuc (Town), Lamballe (Town)
Vitre - Vitre (Town), Château de Chevré, Saint-Aubin-d'Aubigné (Town)
de Donges - Donges (City), Château de Lorieux
Coëtmen-Penthièvre - Château de Tonquédec
de Rohan - Rohan Castle
de Leon - La Roche-Maurice (Castle)
de Porhoët - Josselin Castle
de Ancenis - Ancenis (Borough)
de Rieux - Rieux (Borough)
de Beaumanoir - Chateau de Beaumanoir
de Châteaugiron - Châteaugiron (Borough)
Trémazan - Château de Trémazan
de Tinténiac - Château de Montmuran
du Pont-l'Abbé - Chateau de Coëtmeur
de Fougeres - Château de Fougères

County of Champagne (13 fiefs: ~20 ):
Blois (5) - Troyes (City), Provins (Borough), Chateau de Saint-Florentin, Tour César (Castle), Château de Château-Thierry
Dampierre - Dampierre (Borough), Saint-Dizier (Borough), Chateau de Moëslains
de Clefmont - Chateau de de Clefmont
Chatillion - Châtillon-Sur-Marne (Town)
de Joigny - Joigny (Borough)
de Joinville - Joinville (Borough)
de Choiseul - Choiseul (Manor)
de Sexfontaines - Sexfontaines (Town)
de Brienne-Ramerupt - Chateau de Ramerupt, Venizy (Manor)
de Vignory - Château de Vignory
de Milly - Milly-La-Foret (Manor)
de Villehardouin - Villehardouin (Manor)
de Nully - Nully (Manor)
de Chappe - Jully-sur-Sarce (Manor)

Duchy of Burgundy (12 fiefs: ~ 25):
de Burgundy (10 fiefs) - Dijon (City), Semur-en-Auxois (Borough), Beaune (Town), Chateau de Argilly, Château d'Époisses, Château de Germolles, Château de Montbard, Château de Rouvres, Avallon (Town), Talant Castle, Autun (Town)
Ivrea - Auxonne (Town), Chalons (Town)
de Champlitte - Chateau de Champlitte
La Trémoille - La Trémoïlle (Borough)
Noyers (Butler) - Château de Noyers
de Bâgé-le-Châtel - Chateau de Bâgé
de Vergy - Château de Vergy
de Thil - Château de Thil, Nolay (Manor)
de Duesme - Chateau de Duesme
de Montreal - Montreal (Borough), Chatel-Gerard (Castle)
de Montfaucon - Château de Montfaucon
de Chastellux - Château de Chastellux
de Toucy - Bazarnes (Manor)

Dauphin of Viennois (7 fiefs: ~15):
Burgundy of Viennois (9 fiefs) - Château-Dauphin, Vienne Isere (City), Albon (City), Grenoble (City), Valence (City), Montbrison Loire (Town), Oisans et Briançon (Town), Embrun (Town), Château des Adhémar
Clermont-Tonnerre - Chateau de Clermont-Tonnerre, Château de Hautefort
de Sassenage - Sassenage (Borough)
de Moyen - Moyen (Borough)
de Montmaur - Montmaur (Borough)
de Bressieux - Château de Bressieux
de Bocsozel - Château de Pusignan
 
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I've worked on the Scotland 1269 mod which has a fair amount of heraldry, names, conversion done - Mainly its a text based and POCcolor conversion, but you're welcome to use any or all of it for Scotland, and I'd be happy to help where I can. But the attempt I've made so far has shown me the limitations of what I can do, and the size of task that's needed to make a comprehensive mod work. Its at the Nexus Mods pages here: https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/2081

I'm still working on it but really lack the detailed modding skills to get a map in place, even with the modding kit release - what I would say is that doing all of Europe in the detail that's required is a massive thing! The world map seems about the right size for Scotland, never mind the whole of Western Europe, so good luck. And, absolutely, don't do it alone!
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Hi, thanks for the PM re banners, happy to help.
Well done on this list on Scotland so far - A lot of this is really accurate, I think, but bits are from later period. Its confusing as the sources of the time are poor in any case.

My bad regarding the work you'd done on the Hebrides of Scotland, as they're in the list for Norway. They seem to be good. Comments on your list in bold below.

Kingdom of Scotland (23):
Dunkeld - Edinburgh (City), Stirling (City), Scone (City), Dumbarton Castle, Montrose Castle. A pretty succinct list of the ruling house holdings base. Both Edinburgh and Stirling should be the biggest and baddest forts you can get!
Coluim - Macduffs Castle, NOT Tantallon Castle (Not built until 1400s)
de Lennox - Balloch Castle, Rosneath (Manor), Row (Manor)
de Moneteadhaich - Rusky Castle
Comyn - Rattray Castle, Kingussie (Town), Banff Castle
Stewart - Rothesay Castle, Dundonald Castle, Renfrew Castle, Mar Castle, Renfrew (Town), Kilmacolm (Manor) (Stewart were a minor clan at this time, they really became powerful after they married into the Bruce line from the 1320s, and places like Mar were awarded to them later on, so this might need to be amended)
de Carrick - Turnberry Castle (Castle)
Ó Beólláin - Inverness (Town)
de Menteith - Menteith Castle
Cospatrick - Balloch (Manor), Dunbar (CASTLE - fantastic castle built on five rock stacks linked by bridges, just like the Greyjoys on Game of Thrones - sadly just a few lumps in the sea now), Berwick upon Tweed (Town), Swinton (Manor), Coldingham (Manor)
Fitz Roland - Kirkcudbright (City)
Strathearn - St Johns Town of Perth (City) (Thats what they called it then)
Douglas - Linlithgow (Town), Hermiston (Manor)
de Valognes - Benington Castle, Kilbridge Castle, Inchgall Castle
de Brus - LOCHMABEN Castle
Wallace - Kyle (Town)
Gordon - Huntly Castle
de Giffard - Yester Castle (Yester was I think built later on - Hailes Castle was built at the time and was nearby so might be a good substitute)
Mac Donald - Aros Castle (Clan McDonald did not exist at this time, they were sons of Donald, Lord of the Isles which wasn't big until later in the 13th century)
MacDougall - Duart Castle
Campbell - Campbell Castle
Macsween - Sween Castle
Ruaidhrí - Castle Tioram


Some additions ( but these are not exclusive)

Main castles of the Border Marches
  • Hermitage Castle (but may have been build later)
  • Hume Castle
  • Threave Castle
Other bits
St Andrews (City - main powerbase of medieval Scots Church and one of the richest in Scotland at the time)
Dunottar Castle (near Aberdeen, incredible clifftop setting)
Finlaggan on Islay, (centre of power for the soon to be 'Lord of The Isles' in the Southern Hebrides)

a few clans which were in existence then.
  • MacEth - Earls/Mormaers of Ross
  • MacGregor
  • MacNeil
 
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Great! Thanks for the support! I encourage you to join the discord to share any ideas you may have or perhaps even offer some service to the mod? I extend this invitation to all!
 
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For those following the mod progress rest assured that we are hard at work:

1. We have been scrutinizing our old features and thinking of new ones: trying to set up core features that preserve historical accuracy but are feasible to implement and will improve the players experience.

2. We have been hard at work creating a database with banners, names, holdings, titles, alliances, etc. organized by region realm and household.

3. We have been working on drafting 3d armor models and have begun the long process of painstakingly recreating historical armors and weapons.

4. We have a scener who has started to experiment making some scenes.


We still need Programmers, 3d Modellers, Sceners, and Researchers!
 
I always thought that the lance system was more of a 14th century thing? You should read about Geoffrey de Villahouin in his bio of the 4th crusade and the Latin Empire. He describes the Brabantians as wearing a heavy amount of armour. Also, where do you get your information about Scandinavians? Norwegians, Danish, and Swedes are pretty different from each other. I can tell that there might be some influence from the King's Mirror. Too bad you don't want to extend to the East, because there is a lot going on with the Latin Empire, Bulgarians, the Byzantine Successor States, Khwarazmians, the Seljuks, and then a Mongol army arrival.
 
What exactly do you mean by "The Kings Mirror". In terms of Scandinavians I would be very interested to see any notable differences in terms of troops. Danish and Norwegian are very similar langauges too and even Sweden shares many of the same words. All three countries had similar systems of government in which land was more in the hands of the church and freeholder farmers rather than feudal nobles. Additionally they intermarried their ruling classes and had frequent contact with eachother. In relation to Brabancons According to Walter Map from 1180 "The fighters of these rotten were protected from head to foot by a leather jerkin, and were armed with steel, staves and iron." As far as the east that is really beyond the scope of our project unfortunately. We are more focused on getting into detail. In terms of the lance system I think its still a good way to manage recruitment in a way that more accurately reflects feudalism. In fact it could be argued that the Lance system makes more sense to be in the 13th century at the height of feudalism. The whole idea of feudalism is based on vassalage: on a basic level Kings would have tenants in chief, these would have Knights, knights would have squires and common troops levied into their command. Of course Kings would also have knights and both kings and tenants in chief would hold manors in demense.
 
There is a mid-13th century written dialogue of a conversation between a King and his Prince son in Norway, "The King's Mirror". It goes into a lot of depth about how the Norwegians understand the world at the time, as well as everyday life, including details about how their Hird system works, fighting, and equipment. https://archive.org/stream/kingsmirrorspecu00konuuoft/kingsmirrorspecu00konuuoft_djvu.txt

The Swedes are basically a Viking society until the Birger Jarl reforms in the later half of the 13th century. The Norwegians exited out of a civil war that got a lot of their aristocracy killed, and the King's Hird system is pretty different- including "The Guests", "Candle Men", and the "Table Men" for example. The Danes are probably the more modernized of the two Scandinavians, and would resemble a bit closer to a Central European society.

I wouldn't focus too hard on a broad "Feudalist" system, because different regions do things rather differently in different eras. I would suggest making different cultural groups have their own style of government system. The Almohads and Scandinavians are very different from an Anglo-French system. HRE is also a tad different as well due to the election of an emperor. I would focus more on what the different systems look like during the early 13th century. The 14th century was a total upset after the 13th century due to the Bubonic Plague- a lot of peasants weren't tied to their land anymore, and were able to export their labor services, this included a gradual increase of mercenaries as well which was normally shunned in the 13th century.

From my own broad interpretation of Medieval European armies that I see a common pattern, I would suggest 4 main categories of troops:

Archers being professional commoner soldiers notably trained for specialization in bows and crossbows (good armour, good melee, good ranged). Splits between Longbows (or Recurved bows) and Crossbowmen in the troop tree.

Sergeants for personal retinue of Lords and Knights, and are essentially militant serfs (decent armour, decent melee, decent horseback, decent ranged). Splits between Polearm on Foot (with or without shield), Cavalry, and Crossbowmen (or uses bows) in the troop tree.

Militia are the Medieval equivalent of Greek city-state Hoplites. They are tradesmen who trains for war on the side, and help police their towns and cities (decent armour, decent melee, decent ranged). Splits between Polearm on Foot (with or without shield), and Crossbowmen (or uses bows) in the troop tree.

Knights being straightforward of Page to Squire to Knight. They can also be personal retainers of a Lord, but are aristocrats of their own right (excellent armour, good melee, good horseback). They are primarily a cavalry role, but can make good foot infantry. Pages would probably resemble foot soldiers.
 
In response to ourgekj:

We will certainly have crusades: The northern crusades are just kicking off and there are also crusades going on in spain.

In response to Slytacular

1. Ah yes I remember that's where I read the stuff about the candle holders. Essentially it was a similar system to western European households which would have chancellors, marshals, etc. the roles simply went by different names and had slightly different functions. It was sort of an evolution from tribalism to feudalism. As for the Danes yeah its true they are more western European because they live near Germany.

2. As far as the feudalistic recruitment goes, most of our map is feudal or quasi feudal.

3. For your interpretation of the armies you're not wrong but our troop trees pretty much stick to that format for the most part.
 
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New Chart of the 52 Factions!!!​
 
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