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Personal feeling crossbow 1257 where some waste, because the bow strong bow skills support, coupled with the loading speed faster than the crossbow so we all like to use the bow, which caused a crossbow in the late game is basically no Dayong.
As far as I know, medieval crossbow is a big kill, you can cause great destruction, especially on heavily armored units. Medieval knights for the crossbow is considerable antipathy that its use is contrary to chivalry, that the cheapest kind of dastardly hand can take away the most heroic and noble life, "that the church in a very long time banned the use (if I remember right, the Lionheart, King Richard is a cook with a crossbow shot).
Is based on an idea: to reposition the role of the bow and crossbow. Bow a major role for a remote repression (such as the Welsh archers and the vast majority of archers) (2) Archery (Oriental nomads and Muslim cavalry). The main role of the crossbow is a short-range breaking weight A siege of the main defenders war
Extend this idea a few suggestions:
A crossbow damage mode changed from chopped to a stab wound to reduce their damage values (sword-like high-chop and ax the low stab).
(2) reduce the range of the vast majority of crossbow (medieval crossbow mostly close, that is technically not quite sure how to achieve, by reducing the muzzle velocity?) But retains a range of special crossbowmen (such as Genoa giant shield)
General decline crossbowmen proficiency (the main purpose continues to slow down the loading speed, and bow, most of the the crossbowmen hand will not receive specialized training, in many cases some respect is not a full-time crossbowmen)
Enhanced advanced the Crossbowmen the equipment and the melee proficiency, and this corresponds to give up their wages (compensation of a range of nearly, but also in the siege the defenders to play a greater power)
In this way, the crossbowmen and archers function will not conflict, but also more in line with history, canned will exist because the opposite crossbowmen dare not unbridled. To say here that the next javelin in the medieval Li Xiou countries very use of the javelin, function and crossbow some conflict geographically are not in conflict, to some extent alleviated the Western Europe, there is no javelin in the face of canned of fatigue.
Since childhood, when learning English is not seriously, I know that may be looking at you it is difficult. But it is my sincere advice. Also hope you understand, In addition, I know I might send the wrong place, but I hope the moderators to help me shift the Kazakh position or do not delete.
Chinese good foreign friends to help me translate the following my original Chinese words.Because I know that the Google translation of a certain gap.
一个关于弩的问题
个人感觉1257里弩有些废，因为弓有强弓技能的支持，再加上装填速度比弩快所以大家都喜欢用弓，这就造成了弩在游戏后期基本没什么大用。
而据我所知，中世纪里弩是一种大杀器，可以造成很大的杀伤，尤其是对重甲单位。所以中世纪骑士对于弩是相当的憎恶，认为其使用有悖于骑士精神，认为“最低贱卑怯的手可以夺走最英勇高贵的生命”，以至于在很长一段时间教会都明令禁止使用（如果记得没错，狮心王理查就是被一个厨子用弩射死的）。
正基于此产生了一种想法：重新定位弓和弩的作用。弓主要作用为1.远程压制（如威尔士长弓兵以及绝大多数弓箭部队）2.骑射（东方游牧民族和穆斯林的骑兵部队）。弩的主要作用为1.短射程破重甲2.攻城守城战主力
从这个想法延伸出几点建议：
1.弩的伤害模式由砍伤变为刺伤，降低其伤害数值（类似于剑的高砍伤和斧的低刺伤）。
2.减少绝大多数弩的射程（中世纪的弩大多是近距离用的，就是技术上不太清楚怎么实现，通过降低初速？）但保留一些特殊弩兵的射程（如热那亚巨盾）
3.普遍下调各种弩兵使用熟练度（主要目的继续减慢装填速度，因为与弓不同，大多数弩兵手不会经过专门的训练，很多情况是有些就根本不是专职弩兵）
4.增强高级弩兵的装备和近战熟练度，与此相对应要给他们涨工资（对射程近的补偿，也可以在攻城守城中发挥更大的威力）
这样，弩兵与弓兵功能上不会冲突，也更切合历史，罐头也会因为对面的弩兵存在不敢肆无忌惮了。在这里说下标枪的问题，因为在中世纪里西欧各国是不怎么使用标枪的，所以尽管功能与弩有些冲突，在地域上是并不冲突的，一定程度上缓解了西欧没有标枪对于面对罐头的乏力。
自己的一些观点，希望大家踊跃讨论一下
As far as I know, medieval crossbow is a big kill, you can cause great destruction, especially on heavily armored units. Medieval knights for the crossbow is considerable antipathy that its use is contrary to chivalry, that the cheapest kind of dastardly hand can take away the most heroic and noble life, "that the church in a very long time banned the use (if I remember right, the Lionheart, King Richard is a cook with a crossbow shot).
Is based on an idea: to reposition the role of the bow and crossbow. Bow a major role for a remote repression (such as the Welsh archers and the vast majority of archers) (2) Archery (Oriental nomads and Muslim cavalry). The main role of the crossbow is a short-range breaking weight A siege of the main defenders war
Extend this idea a few suggestions:
A crossbow damage mode changed from chopped to a stab wound to reduce their damage values (sword-like high-chop and ax the low stab).
(2) reduce the range of the vast majority of crossbow (medieval crossbow mostly close, that is technically not quite sure how to achieve, by reducing the muzzle velocity?) But retains a range of special crossbowmen (such as Genoa giant shield)
General decline crossbowmen proficiency (the main purpose continues to slow down the loading speed, and bow, most of the the crossbowmen hand will not receive specialized training, in many cases some respect is not a full-time crossbowmen)
Enhanced advanced the Crossbowmen the equipment and the melee proficiency, and this corresponds to give up their wages (compensation of a range of nearly, but also in the siege the defenders to play a greater power)
In this way, the crossbowmen and archers function will not conflict, but also more in line with history, canned will exist because the opposite crossbowmen dare not unbridled. To say here that the next javelin in the medieval Li Xiou countries very use of the javelin, function and crossbow some conflict geographically are not in conflict, to some extent alleviated the Western Europe, there is no javelin in the face of canned of fatigue.
Since childhood, when learning English is not seriously, I know that may be looking at you it is difficult. But it is my sincere advice. Also hope you understand, In addition, I know I might send the wrong place, but I hope the moderators to help me shift the Kazakh position or do not delete.
Chinese good foreign friends to help me translate the following my original Chinese words.Because I know that the Google translation of a certain gap.
一个关于弩的问题
个人感觉1257里弩有些废，因为弓有强弓技能的支持，再加上装填速度比弩快所以大家都喜欢用弓，这就造成了弩在游戏后期基本没什么大用。
而据我所知，中世纪里弩是一种大杀器，可以造成很大的杀伤，尤其是对重甲单位。所以中世纪骑士对于弩是相当的憎恶，认为其使用有悖于骑士精神，认为“最低贱卑怯的手可以夺走最英勇高贵的生命”，以至于在很长一段时间教会都明令禁止使用（如果记得没错，狮心王理查就是被一个厨子用弩射死的）。
正基于此产生了一种想法：重新定位弓和弩的作用。弓主要作用为1.远程压制（如威尔士长弓兵以及绝大多数弓箭部队）2.骑射（东方游牧民族和穆斯林的骑兵部队）。弩的主要作用为1.短射程破重甲2.攻城守城战主力
从这个想法延伸出几点建议：
1.弩的伤害模式由砍伤变为刺伤，降低其伤害数值（类似于剑的高砍伤和斧的低刺伤）。
2.减少绝大多数弩的射程（中世纪的弩大多是近距离用的，就是技术上不太清楚怎么实现，通过降低初速？）但保留一些特殊弩兵的射程（如热那亚巨盾）
3.普遍下调各种弩兵使用熟练度（主要目的继续减慢装填速度，因为与弓不同，大多数弩兵手不会经过专门的训练，很多情况是有些就根本不是专职弩兵）
4.增强高级弩兵的装备和近战熟练度，与此相对应要给他们涨工资（对射程近的补偿，也可以在攻城守城中发挥更大的威力）
这样，弩兵与弓兵功能上不会冲突，也更切合历史，罐头也会因为对面的弩兵存在不敢肆无忌惮了。在这里说下标枪的问题，因为在中世纪里西欧各国是不怎么使用标枪的，所以尽管功能与弩有些冲突，在地域上是并不冲突的，一定程度上缓解了西欧没有标枪对于面对罐头的乏力。
自己的一些观点，希望大家踊跃讨论一下
