Aklis said:Can a Frenchman ever be rightful in the eyes of the very same god?
Aklis said:But can a bastard ever be rightful in the eyes of the god to whom you so desperately cling?
Can a Frenchman ever be rightful in the eyes of the very same god?
You didn't really address any of my points, non-cousin! You just said "sure am!"Takeda_Shingen said:You fell for my little trap there, cousin. You must realise, you are doomed!
I am a Bastard that may be true, but then again I am a Norman, and I am Robert's only son, even though I am a Bastard, I am his only son. Therefore I am the rightful Duke of Normandy.
Also, Hrotha, I never said I admitted the truth, I was playing for time, time to think of an answer to your foolish accusations. So, I have.
Ball is now in your court, cousin.
Everyone knows Rotbert had only one child, and an illegitimate one at that. Willelm the Bastard might be Rotbert's heir, but you are NOT Willelm the Bastard.Takeda_Shingen said:Well then you are mad, cousin, everyone knows I am Robert's only heir, did he have any other sons, NO!
Nor has Conte Williame de Varenne*, blood-cousin of Wyllelm of Normandy.hrotha said:- Balduin de Runeville doesn't acknowledge you as his liege, as he would acknowledge the real Duke of Normandy.
hrotha said:Everyone knows Rotbert had only one child, and an illegitimate one at that. Willelm the Bastard might be Rotbert's heir, but you are NOT Willelm the Bastard.Takeda_Shingen said:Well then you are mad, cousin, everyone knows I am Robert's only heir, did he have any other sons, NO!
I shall reiterate my points:
- Balduin de Runeville doesn't acknowledge you as his liege, as he would acknowledge the real Duke of Normandy.
- You openly and proudly use the nickname "Bastard", which as everybody knows infuriates the real Duke Wyllelm and is never said to his face.
- You are said to be involved in petty skirmishes and raids unbefitting someone of the rank you claim to have.
You haven't disputed any of these. The issue is clear for anyone who judges the matter with objectivity: you're pretending to be someone who you aren't, probably as a way to have easier access to mercenaries and to gather support from the least loyal English eorls. I wouldn't be surprised if you were planning to usurp the duchy of Normandy itself.
A-ha, most interesting. No Norman acknowledges him then.rapier17 said:Nor has Conte Williame de Varenne*, blood-cousin of Wyllelm of Normandy.hrotha said:- Balduin de Runeville doesn't acknowledge you as his liege, as he would acknowledge the real Duke of Normandy.
"Has been sorted out in private"? More shady machinations from you, Þeodloga. I suppose Balduin de Runeville can come here and openly acknowledge you as his liege then.-Balduin may not at first acknowledge me as his liege but that has been sorted out in private.
What's a "clan tag"? Anyway, you use it as the name of your company because you chose it, as you knew people would associate it with the real Willelm the Bastard. The real duke would never have done that. He would have people hanged for less!-I may use the name "Bastarz" but I never said I proudly wear it, and I use it openely because it is my clan tag
hrotha said:A-ha, most interesting. No Norman acknowledges him then.rapier17 said:Nor has Conte Williame de Varenne*, blood-cousin of Wyllelm of Normandy.hrotha said:- Balduin de Runeville doesn't acknowledge you as his liege, as he would acknowledge the real Duke of Normandy.
"Has been sorted out in private"? More shady machinations from you, Þeodloga. I suppose Balduin de Runeville can come here and openly acknowledge you as his liege then.-Balduin may not at first acknowledge me as his liege but that has been sorted out in private.
What's a "clan tag"? Anyway, you use it as the name of your company because you chose it, as you knew people would associate it with the real Willelm the Bastard. The real duke would never have done that. He would have people hanged for less!-I may use the name "Bastarz" but I never said I proudly wear it, and I use it openely because it is my clan tag
Your defenses are weak, Þeodloga! Reveal yourself! Who ARE you? Are you a count, a baron, a mercenary captain?
hrotha said:A-ha, most interesting. No Norman acknowledges him then.rapier17 said:Nor has Conte Williame de Varenne*, blood-cousin of Wyllelm of Normandy.hrotha said:- Balduin de Runeville doesn't acknowledge you as his liege, as he would acknowledge the real Duke of Normandy.
"Has been sorted out in private"? More shady machinations from you, Þeodloga. I suppose Balduin de Runeville can come here and openly acknowledge you as his liege then.-Balduin may not at first acknowledge me as his liege but that has been sorted out in private.
What's a "clan tag"? Anyway, you use it as the name of your company because you chose it, as you knew people would associate it with the real Willelm the Bastard. The real duke would never have done that. He would have people hanged for less!-I may use the name "Bastarz" but I never said I proudly wear it, and I use it openely because it is my clan tag
Your defenses are weak, Þeodloga! Reveal yourself! Who ARE you? Are you a count, a baron, a mercenary captain?
Aethel said:nor stealing your cattle and hiding in hill country