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Grand Final:
The Holy Inquisition 7 : 9 Destiny Masters

Third Place:
Risen Manifest 9 : 7 Deutschritter Furor

Promotion Matches:
Divitarium 9 : 8 Risen Manifest Silver
Deutschritter Superbia 5 : 12 APE
14e Gaming - La Rose Ardente 7 : 8 Men of Borr Academy

Vinum picks Xauna

Semi Finals
Risen Manifest 9 : 6 Destiny Masters
The Holy Inquisition 12 : 4 Deutschritter Furor

Promotion Matches
Risen Manifest Silver 12 : 3 Restitutor Orbis
APE 7 : 8 The Stygian Raven
Principality of Varcheg 12 : 3 Men of Borr Academy
Vineyard Workers Vinum 10 : 5 The Holy Inquisition III

Vineyard Workers Vinum would like to ban the map Town Outskirts

Aeronwen said:

The usual result of that is that any players suspended for x matches do not have that match count towards their ban.

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Why is this a thing? It's nowhere in the current written rules and I never seen it happen before in the last 3 beasts. I don't understand why this is a thing and I belief it shouldn't be, there is no reason for it. Even if teams would do a stupid thing like default all the banned matches on purpose even when they could have played it would only be bad for them and you could punish the team under unsportsmanlike conduct regardless.

Aeronwen said:

That would be a good point if teams were limited to 7 players. But they can have 11, so missing 2 should not prevent them from playing for an entire week.

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It's not up to you to decide if a team could have played or not, they couldn't that's just the way it is. Having to default is already bad enough, it should count towards the penalty duration.

Whether the team played or not these guys were suspended, it's not their fault the team had to forfeit and they would have been benched either way, where is the logic in this exception?

I think the rhetoric is that no matter why a team defaults, if it defaults that match will not count for any punishment their players have to serve out. If the bans are the reason for having to do a default in the first place cause of lack of players this will create an infinite loop where that team will never play again without getting mercs or other people to join.

VW 7 - 8 GoW

Player Addition

Team Name: Vineyard Workers Vinum
Name of player(s):

Division A:
Risen Manifest 12 : 3 Vineyard Workers
Deutschritter Furor 7 : 9 Destiny Masters
Divitiarum 6 : 9 The Holy Inquisition

Division B:
The Chide Village 10 : 6 Risen Manifest Silver
Deutschritter Superbia 5 : 9 Destinction Masters
The Holy Inquisition II 4 : 9 Keyboard Warriors

For using the dot a warning would have worked, a full on suspension is harsh but alright it was against the rules. Giving the suspension and a default is extravagant and very harsh. Basically a double punishment. Either default or suspend, not both for a crime that wasn't all that bad to begin with.

As the admins keep saying all the time, use some common sense guys it's just a game not a murder crime.

VW V vs IPL
Thursday 03-02 20:00 GMT

Division A:
Risen Manifest 8 : 7 The Holy Inquisition
Destiny Masters 11 : 6 Divitiarum
Deutschritter Furor 9 : 6 Vineyard Workers

Division B:
The Chide Village 12 : 3 Keyboard Warriors
Deutschritter Superbia 9 : 6 The Holy Inquisition II
Destinction Masters 6 : 9 Risen Manifest Silver

No need for pages of discussion. We simply suggest you add things to the rules if you are going to suspend people for these things so that this rule is no surprise to anyone, easy as that. You only have to add 4 words to the rules, I don't see any problem:
(3) The team must wear the team tag in front of their name (through the clan system and Steam) that is used in the roster thread.

It is common sense for you because you happen to be used to it this particular way. The truth is there is no standard for it one way or another. Typically games, such as Bannerlord does with the clan tag, will have a separate column for it so it wouldn't even be in the name in the first place.

That said in general if there is no explicit rule against something, it shouldn't be punishable with suspensions or worse at all. Simply because no rules are broken to begin with. People agree to a written set of rules and if it's not in there how are they to know? If it's a common unwritten consensus something should be done a certain way at most it should warrant a warning unless maybe it is a repeat offence. It's silly and unwarranted because again, how are they to know if they are new players?

VW - PV
19:30GMT Wednesday 2/2/2022

Division A:
Risen Manifest 6 : 9 Destiny Masters
Deutschritter Furor 4 : 12 Divitiarum
The Holy Inquisition 5 : 9 Vineyard Workers

Division B:
The Chide Village 12 : 4 Deutschritter Superbia
Destinction Masters 10 : 5 The Holy Inquisition II
Keyboard Warriors 7 : 6 Risen Manifest Silver

Division A:
Risen Manifest 10 : 5 Deutschritter Furor
Destiny Masters 12 : 3 The Holy Inquisition
Divitarium 9 : 6 Vineyard Workers

Division B:
The Chide Village 12 : 3 Destinction Masters
Deutschritter Superbia 5 : 9 Keyboard Warrios
The Holy Inquisition II 5 : 12 Risen Manifest Silver

VW T 3 - 12 VW V


We apologize for Sir Rela missing his tag, he had the tag on steam but forgot to relog and we noticed only when it was already 2-2.

VW V vs VW T will be played Sunday at 19:00GMT