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MArdA TaleWorlds said:

You were not able to get the crash id while playing in GeForceNow right?
Unfortunately we can't get the files we need from the users who play from GeforceNow.

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alieser said:

Hey guys,
Great suggestions going here, please keep them coming! I have this thread bookmarked.
I wanted to let you know that we are currently working on an overhaul on Battanian armors, which are very much in line with the consensus here. I won't be able to share them yet, but you will be able to see them during the early access. We are also working on other stuff that I hope I'll be able to share in the future.

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HUMMAN said:

OK my bad on that. I read somewhere Germany wants other nations to accept genocides as a policy because they are alone in it.
It's just shocking for me media/politicians etc. discuss Armenian event while their crimes are not brought up at all-just a bad history to be forgotten-; and for people it's just OK. They dont even bother to question it, since it is brought up; it is all cool- objective- just and Turkey being just nasty, people really believe a government can act like that. And oh, no need to move focus away. Turkey is some sort of dodger or liar. At the same there is calmness an even bringing justice motive in EU citizens i talked with. As if we need their help and objective humane values. Western governments have no right to talk about my heritage while carrying their bloody heritage; it's my issue and the issue of people effected from my heritage.
Here UN telling Belgium to not be nasty and end post-racist remarks in their 'African museum'. And Belgium says oh cool we will make museum more friendlier. For me it's still the same 'zoo' mentality. And they keep their king's statues almost as if they are proud of him. Even if you define the word of the event same as these events, it's never gonna be same.

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John the Roleplayer said:

We should have secretly agreed that nobody vote except for the devs. We could have tricked them into giving the date away prematurely.

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Oxtocoatl said:

Oh God, not this again. This conversation has been had too many times.
1. Noble women in the middle ages sometimes achieved tangible political power, often initially by being widowed and becoming a regent, kind of like the ruling empress of the southern empire in the game. Sometimes they inherited power by the wish of their parents, like empress Matilda, who was chosen to be the heir to England after her younger brother drowned.
2. Since political and military power were intimately linked in the middle ages, these women sometimes also led armies. There is little evidence that they actively hacked people into bits, but that's not the commander's job, regardless of gender. Hacking people into bits is a job best left for professionals and poor people. Commanders are there to command.
3. People keep strawmanning conversations about female commanders and claiming that someone is demanding a 50/50 gender split among the rank and file or something similar, when I've never seen anyone demand that on the forums. We have no confirmation of female units at all in the game.
4. People keep bringing up stuff that is completely irrelevant to the topic of women historically leading armies sometimes, like theories of why men evolved to be stronger on average, or how Hollywood wants to cynically make some money with bad*** women but is unable to let go of it's own, unhealthy beauty standard for lead actresses, which does lead to comical results sometimes. I'll just reiterate here that it's not feminists who insist on casting Victoria's Secret models as warrior women, it's cynical Hollywood business people. Feminists tend to support body diversity where they see it and cheer characters like Brienne of Tarth.

Also neither of those things disproofs the existence of women in positions of power and military leadership in the high middle ages in any way at all. It and the high tension between what is thought ideal behavior for the genders and the more complex reality are real facets of medieval life that would make the game more enjoyable for more people. If you want your absolute sausage fest, it can't be hard for you to mod, but I can't help but think and hope that most of this paranoia about female commanders will dissipate once the game releases with it's fair share of manly men with big axes and people will see that some female NPC:s sprinkled on top doesn't actually ruin a game after all.

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Quiet_Monk said:

Rule of tincture (already mentioned in the previous thread about banners) could help solve this problem ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_tincture ). I think this is logical and totally doable solution. More variation, while keeping banners recognisably belonging to a faction. For each faction it would take the faction colour as a base and then allow combinations with one or more of the following: yellow (gold), white (silver) and maybe black. This would allow varied designs within TW's plans for the game.

This expands on Terco’s idea, while preventing colour over colour designs that are sometimes hard on eyes and also designs that can be confused between factions. It could also serve as a basis for a very simple banner editor: choose a sigil, its placement, background design (divided horizontally, vertically or diagonally, or monocolour or four tiles etc.) then pick colours for everthing from given palette.

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Very nice composition! Much better than the crude examples I presented in this thread.

Now on top of that, the devices of each clan could be non-generic and stylistically distinct for each respective faction, as for instance picked from this selection:

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Then we would have a pretty much feasible concept. Bravo.

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Smorkin said:

I have great hopes for bannerlord.

But music-wise, please please don't follow the trend of most games these days and have music playing continuously. Think atmosphere: Birds chirruping, branches creaking, flags flapping, soldier's trudging through the mud, horses whinneying, swords clashing, warcries bellowing (and not that godawful racket from the soldiers shouting in warband mount and blade that would force me to turn off the sound), or wounded screaming, and all followed by the calm after the storm as the battlefield settles into silence.

So of course the devs are adding music, and the clips sounded epic, but don't waste all that hard work!! Use it as a tool to ADD to the atmosphere - not overwhelm it. Play a song, then have a break of 3-4 minutes of no music, then play a different song. Or put songs on triggers on certain events, i.e. first encounter with faction/ entering city for first time/ entering inn/ meeting a king. Make us look forward to the rare event where that epic tune is suddenly and unexpectedly played.

I beg you, don't just make a playlist and put it on repeat with the best song playing over and over. Don't make one or two songs and play them in every battle. Such an approach (adopted by too many, quite frankly lazy, game devs) is intrinsically flawed. Common sense says you don't stick 10 tracks on repeat. You get sick of it after an hour.  Even with a playlist of 'only' 50 songs (for example on an ipod, as rarely do games have that many, GTA excluded) you get sick of even that many pretty quickly, a week or two tops. You will get exhausted of even chart number 1's after hearing it 30 times in a day or two... Music then gets muted.

It can be done well. Many examples come to mind, but first to mind is skyrim's dovahkin music - despite the huge amount of work and full orchestra involvement - this was really only ever played on menu screen (and possibly rare boss battles at the end adding to the sense of epicness of the fight when you heard it). It won awards for a reason.

And don't just ignore/chuck out those tester single instrument pieces. Why not use them for a random musician in a village square, or an inn, a bard practising or messing around. Loads of atmosphere for little effort. It's instant injection of character and soul to a village.

Apologies if I laboured the point, but I would really love Bannerlords to be great!

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ＪＡＣＶＢＨＩＮＤＳ // 寒心４２０? said:

Quiet_Monk said:

This is why I can NOT look at this image anymore... the proportions just seem so... off? 

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Wow.

I also feel like a lot of these images have been desaturated from the originals. The steppe one especially, it just looks unnaturally grey.

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This is just a quick and dirty edit but it's pretty obvious that they've desaturated the original and made all the colours into shades of brown. It's very unlikely that somebody would intentionally paint that way.

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