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Bloc said:

EsoptrosOer said:

I wasn't saying that but rather having greek style/named/dressed troops in the Ottoman Empire and possibly having the isle of greece?
That way I'd be able to hire greek soldiers and rebel against the ottoman empire!!!

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Ah yes of course he will make greece uniforms for satisfied a racist-looking greek guy , oh come on , I think we both know the answer of this question

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DrTomas said:

EsoptrosOer said:

I understand your viewpoint.  But that isn't directly true.  As sad as it sounds, people can be dramatically affected by letdowns, and not only that it goes to show the inability to be trust-worthy and or unreliable.

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Realy? Some people then have very relaxed and stress free lives if a mod not getting released is a dramatic letdown. Damn...

People first of all should understand that this is a hobby, which means the developers have no direct responsibility to anyone and there are will be no dramatic letdowns.  Especialy when we made it clear that the date is what WE are aming for and not a date that it will certanly be released bu then.  Moding is a creative process - one day you can be moding like a maniac and truly see it can be finished in a couple of month, but then something happens. It can be a simple thing - like loosing your creativity, starting going out with your friends more or perhaps some serious real life problem occours.

And because this is a creative process, moders are free to conduct things how they see fit. So if someone decides - that an certain overhaul would be good idea, despite missing your believed date - one should be free to do so.

EsoptrosOer said:

Even if it is free work.  There are two reasons; 1 being, if this was payed work, you'd expect the one your paying to have something done by the correct date, right?  Indeed.  Even if it is free, this problem could transfer into the professional world and in return cause problems in your career.    In the end, free or not, It shows reliability and good character to be on time.   

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1. Sorry, but I don't get it. We are not getting paid, what's your point?
2. My career is actualy what's ussualy prevents me from modding. I do the same thing for a living that I do in moding - I code. And depending on how much pressure(deadlines, number of incidents, ect) I have at my job directly effects how much work I want to do on a mod. Don't get me wrong - I like my job, but getting home tired after a full day of intence coding you rather go out and get a beer with friends then go back to a computer and mod. I guess I don't have a good character.

EsoptrosOer said:

I'd understand a small time difference compared to the due-date, but a full year?

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The reason why the 2011 date was missed because Ritter - the main codder at the time disapeared. The coding side of the project was more or less null, till I joined up.

EsoptrosOer said:

This may me being very strict on beliefs, but If I set a due date, I make sure I go through with it.  Free work or not.  It shows reliability, trustworthiness, and honorable character.    I made many mods in my time.  Never finished them, but have worked on years of stuff.  But I have come to understand if you don't know the date of release or if it'll be finished even, tell people that, warn them.  Don't hastily say a project is due to be finished at a specific date or range when aren't absolutely sure of it yourself!

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Ever worked in IT? Becuase it seems that I and most of people in my line of work should be considered untrustworthy bastards by your standarts.

EsoptrosOer said:

That's why its best to say its finished when it is and if isn't ever finished then tough luck.    I am not complaining about anything except the irresponsible action of false statements that even you guys were unsure about. 

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Why giving a date which we are aiming ourselfs is false? It's not like we promised it by then to be deliever, but just indicated what we ourselfs are aiming for. I don't see it as a problem in a casual-like enviroment that we have here.

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DrTomas said:

EsoptrosOer said:

  However, If the team said there was a summer release, then there isn't, people have a right to be unhappy whether this was free or not.    Granted people who work on this have lives, but they should of thought of that if they gave people a false release date. 

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That's what we where aiming for. Dead lines are hard to keep even in professional software development (and not necessarily game related products). It's even harder to do so in a hobby environment, when we do this in our free time for our own entertainment. And because this is a form of entertainment, many other aspects can come into the developing hours - like mood or beer.

So people personal emotions are there business, but as long as we don't receive any payment from them and do the mod in our free time people have no right to complain about the release date, nor do we(well at-least I personally) really care about there such complains.

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DoctorPainkiller said:

Planes of Oblivion would be really difficult. No real lava texture, and making one would be difficult.

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Docm30 said:

Red River said:

so much for summer 2011 release plan

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Here's some news for you. The people working on this (and every other) mod actually have lives and can't work full time on something they're aren't getting paid for. You ought to be thankful that the mod even exists at all.

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Othurin said:

For mnb, tyrells probably work best on their own, and they were a majority of renlys army

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equilin said:

talk about the mod, dont spoil the story ffs -.-

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Kazzan said:

Are we just throwing out suggestions out there? Then...
Do the great war, Legion vs Thalmor!

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