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I am not sure which of these three things solved the problem with the map and menus stuttering/freezing when you move the mouse, and the mouse pointer flickering, in windows 10, but it might work for Warband too:
* I just installed the most recent game-ready driver from Nvidia.
* I set the compatibility mode on the .exe to Windows 8.
* I set the max framerate to my exact refresh rate (144 in my case).
... No more stutters or flickering! Runs perfect, and I can alt+tab without crashing. This worked for me!

I am not sure which of these three things solved the problem with the map and menus stuttering/freezing when you move the mouse, and the mouse pointer flickering, in windows 10, but it might work for Warband too:
* I just installed the most recent game-ready driver from Nvidia.
* I set the compatibility mode on the .exe to Windows 8.
* I set the max framerate to my exact refresh rate (144 in my case).
... No more stutters or flickering! Runs perfect, and I can alt+tab without crashing.

Spikeles said:

This is due to the program doing a SetCursor with NULL making the cursor invisible using GDI, then doing a SetCursor with DirectX to set the cursor visible again. Whilst I do not the exact mechanism as to why it causes FPS issues, I'd guess that it's due to some kind of GDI/DirectX synchronization having to occur.

A workaround is to patch byte at 00216FA5 from 00 to 01 In mb_warband.exe (for steam version at least). This causes the SetCursor to fail thereby preventing the aforementioned hitching. In my system my FPS became steady and never once dipped again.

Side effects may include a cursor being visible when it shouldn't be (though I doubt it).

This may be an NVIDIA bug, it might be a Windows GDI bug, but really, ultimately, this is just a poor programming bug. There is no reason I can think of why the cursor must be hidden by GDI just to be shown again by DirectX. Perhaps editor mode? Maybe?
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EDIT: -- I'd like to point out that after further research the above is actually valid and usual way of handling this according to the Microsoft documentation. Why this causes flickering is unknown, and why ignoring the setCursor fixes it is also unknown.

IDirect3DDevice9::ShowCursor (d3d9helper.h) - Win32 apps

The IDirect3DDevice9::ShowCursor method (d3d9helper.h) displays or hides the cursor.

docs.microsoft.com

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Anyway, I develop programs for my real life, and I've written an automatic patcher to make the single byte change above (for steam version only), I'll link it below (if it works, not sure if the forum will mangle it).

It's an exe file because that is easiest to distribute. Reminder that you should never download .exe files the internet, but here you go:

WarbandPatcher.exe

drive.google.com

You can always restore the Warband files using Steam to re-validate them if you think something is wrong.

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Could you make one of these for M&B 1.011? I am having the same problem, and a fix would truly be a blessing.

Eärendil Ardamírë said:

Hm, that might have been because they have been locked. I unlocked them now, please try again.

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Yes, I can edit them now, thank you!

Eärendil Ardamírë said:

You can still edit your own old posts by yourself. Beside the suggestion thread all other threads are owned by you yourself. So I don't see an issue here which should hinder you at updating them. If you could please elaborate on that.

The permission has not been redacted based on your own activity alone but also on the general activity on the subboards. You don't need to be able to moderate the posts of users within the subboard when there is rarely any activity anyway. The few cases which might come up can be reported and will be handled by the respective subforum moderator, in your case by me.
We did this at the other subboards too, for example at the modding section alone more than 170 non-moderator subboard owners got their moderator rights redacted out of the same reasons.

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I can't edit the pinned topics at the top, like the main download or strategy guide threads.

It is more of an issue of not being able to alter the board-moderated topics in there anymore. I have not stopped development of this mod, and most of the activity for it is in the Discord, but I still use the forums as my point of information, with links to my Nexus downloads and my Discord server. I still modify the topics whenever new versions are available. I really would hate to have to condense all of that down to a single thread, after nine years of development...

If it is possible, I would like to have it returned to normal, and I would also like to know how often I need to login and/or post in it to keep my permissions active enough. I would be much obliged.

I currently seem to be unable to alter the posts in my Solid and Shade M&B mod forum. Curious this is specific, or if this is a systemwide issue?

Well, this is for my mod for M&B 1.011, but most of that all still applies. CTD's are a big problem indeed, if you don't know exactly what you did since the crash started happening.

The model i posted in this thread:
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,375579.0.html

This model. and one other seem to be the culprits, as when i add them the crash happens, and when I remove them they do not. Now what I am trying to figure out is: Why? This helmet, while hefty, poly-wise has even less polys than others that work fine in the mod.

When I was playing around in in the BRF it said something about the model having tangential directions, and that only Warband models support that. Thing is, Blastermaster is from my first mod, and after putting it in Solid & Shade, I can even go look at him wearing the models in Barter Town in my mod... but combat crashes unless I remove both of the models. The model is in the other thread for download, if anyone feels like giving it a look.

All help is much appreciated, again.

I will still be plugging away at the troubleshooting...

Solved, mostly. It wasnt a module system error, it was two 3d models i had added.

Starting new log file.
Module_name =  Calradia
Setting Map Min X =  -105.000000
Setting Map Max X =  105.000000
Setting Map Min Y =  -105.000000
Setting Map Max Y =  105.000000
Num Hints =  15
Setting Time Multiplier =  0.250000
Setting Seeing Range Multiplier =  6.500000
Setting Track Spotting Multiplier =  0.800000
Setting Blood Multiplier =  100.000000
Setting player_wounded_treshold =  5.000000
Setting hero_wounded_treshold =  15.000000
Setting Skill Prisoner Management Bonus =  5
Setting Skill Leadership Bonus =  3
Setting Base Companion Limit =  20
Setting player_xp_multiplier =  2.000000
Setting hero_xp_multiplier =  2.000000
Setting regulars_xp_multiplier =  3.000000
Setting damage_interrupt_attack_treshold =  3.000000
Setting armor_soak_factor_against_cut =  0.650000
Setting armor_soak_factor_against_pierce =  0.350000
Setting armor_soak_factor_against_blunt =  0.300000
Setting armor_reduction_factor_against_cut =  1.000000
Setting armor_reduction_factor_against_pierce =  0.650000
Setting armor_reduction_factor_against_blunt =  0.650000
Setting horse_charge_damage_multiplier =  1.000000
Setting couched_lance_damage_multiplier =  0.750000
Setting missile_damage_speed_power =  2.000000
Setting melee_damage_speed_power =  2.000000
Scan Module Textures =  1
Scan Module Sounds =  1
Loading Resource  test
Loading Resource  textures_face_gen
Loading Resource  shaders
Loading Module Resource  my_textures
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Loading Module Resource  my_materials
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Loading Music...
WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP GAME PRESENTATION CODE:  prsnt_game_start
WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP GAME PRESENTATION CODE:  prsnt_game_escape
WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP GAME SCRIPT CODE:  game_check_party_sees_party
WARNING: UNABLE TO MAP GAME SCRIPT CODE:  game_get_party_speed_multiplier
Loading Module...
Loading item kinds...
Loading dialogs...
Loading mission templates...
Loading party templates...
Loading Textures...
Finished Loading Textures...
Finished All...
load_map_data complete.
Init_map complete.
init_meta_mission complete.
map mesh built.
get_ideal_sun_color.
get_ideal_fog_color.
parties added.
launch complete.
Switching to menu window...
load_map_data complete.
Init_map complete.
init_meta_mission complete.
map mesh built.
get_ideal_sun_color.
get_ideal_fog_color.
parties added.
launch complete.
Switching to menu window...
You gained 5 renown.
Saving Game... Creating new savegame file... Saving header... Saving game state... Closing new save game file... Backing up old file name... Removing old backup file. Renaming old savegame to backup file. Renaming new savegame file. Savegame succeded... begin_setup end_setup begin_setup end_setup

... That is the log file. It doesn't even log the crash. I saved, and went to the arena, and it crashed as soon as battle engaged.

I might have to look into some compiling utilities.

To specify, the issue I am having is: my game seems to crash the same way it does when i reach the item limit, if i add any more menus to "module_game_menus.py".  So I'm worried I may have hit a limit on menus...

I apologize if this has been asked anywhere else, but will this compiler work with M&B 1.011 as well?

Also, if I add one or two apostrophes instead of text, it tells me there is an unexpected end of line in the file. on loading the game, and crashes...