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People say lots of things but despite my offers I didn't get any pm to test it ingame.

hrotha 说:

I'm a pretty terrible cav player but I've tried that slow down, turn right, slash thing with heavy cavalry and it works perfectly well. I imagine if I kept practicing I could become a pretty proficient infantry killer even if they're aware of me.

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No, I am sorry, if you slow down you only take less damage, no way to outreach (and I believe you can't even outreach swords infantry) a decent, below average infantry player, you can't dodge bayonet and then close in, bayonet chambering speed is fast than your horse. If he has a clue of bayonet range cavalry hasn't got the slightest chance to attack a bayonet musketman and surivive with no damage, while bayonet player can easily block dodge, spam stab etc. I've tested this immensely (both as cavalry and infantry), I even tried to keep the horse so close to the enemy that he couldn't attack because of 0 range. No way, bayonet spinstab and upperstab annihilate swordscavalry so easily.

You can kill infantry, when you come from behind in a forrest map, (open maps don't work for cavalry), when they have the name New_Player and noobs in general, that's it.

There is a point (pretty damn soon) with heavy cavalry where your skill becomes irrilevant, you ain't gonna win 1 on 1 against bayonets, you simply can't avoid taking damage, horse can't be blocked, and even if you get a successful block you don't have the reach/speed/manouvre to counterstrike, bayonet never whiffs unless it starts animation basically into the horse 3d model and doesn't backpeddle.

No way in hell you can be better than infantry in this game, no matter how good you can block, feint, move your horse, if you fight a battle where you're outreached and can always take damage (horse can't be blocked) you lose. With infantry it's a matter of skill, cavalry vs infantry, infantry wins.

She can't be buying all the keys, she probably uses a keygen of some sort.

generalbetty 说:

the admin who think they are funny banning me simply because they are atheist scum who will burn in the deepest pits of hell

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ahah made me laugh.

The problem is heavy cavalry being totally useless.
Hussars are good at backstabbing, good speed and manouvre.
Lancers outreach the bayonet so it's easier to frontally charge.
Dragoons can fire and reload while mounted.

But heavy cavalry has a shortsword compared to bayonet, that does very little damage, which you can't even use if you want to go 1 on 1 against infantry, horse is slow and has stupidly low manouvre so that you can't parry and strike back, bayonet can just keep spamming and backpeddling, the horse has higher hp but you still go down to 1-2 bayonet hits.
I can demonstrate everything, just pm me and we can test this in game.

Whoever designed heavy cavalry in this game really needs to play it a bit at least.

I never see more than those occasional 1-2 players in battle mode with 200 people. Just hussars, dragoons and lancers, that's because heavy cavalry is utterly pointless.

Then you will be eager to test how good you are 1v1 vs infantry? Pm me whenever you want, I go infantry and you go cav.

WaffleBorn 说:

ikr? lol 

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Could you stop trolling?

Johnnyseven 说:

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Pelgrane 说:

No cav player is skilled enough to reliably kill aware inf on horseback, and thus nobody with a bayonet has any grounds to whine.

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I beg to differ. There are a few, and more will arise. It's actually quite easy with heavy cavalry.

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I play heavy cavalry almost all the time, but it doesn't really matter what kind of cavalry you play, if the infantryman is any good at the game and knows you're coming - and its incredibly easy to know you're coming - then he will almost certainly stab your horse (And there's sweet FA you can do about this as cavalry save riding away and leaving em to it, you can block for yourself, not your horse) and as you lolslide along the floor he will stab you and kill you where you lie. Because falling off a 1/2 ton horse isn't half as bad as having one fall into you at 10+ mph, but that's mount and blade for you.

There is a certain point where the skill of the cavalryman becomes a non-factor, its all about whether the infantryman has enough sense to stab the horse at the right time rather than the rider, doesn't matter how you turn or what speed you're at, if the infantryman knows what hes doing then you're **** out of luck as cavalry and should get back to picking off all the new players while you can.

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Agreed completly. Counldn't have said it better.

You can't block your horse, which can always be hit. This is the biggest problem making cavalry useless in 1v1.

Send me a pm whenever you want.

Wanna test it now? I go infantry, I bet you can't do it even once. Go on duel server.
I guess not...

Thokan 说:

It's actually quite easy with heavy cavalry.

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Err, how exactly?

You probably play vikingr, you see how far more realistic cavalry is in that mod, if a small dev team like vikingr's one did that, anybody can.

Basically, because a horseman is almost totally ineffective against a lone infantryman with a bayonet, cavalry is NOT capable of doing its tactical job, which is to keep infantry packed together and immobilised for the cannons to aim at. That is done by server rules on LB mode, and not done at all in any Pub play. It was already like that in MM, but it's only gotten worse in NW.

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So true.
There are a number of problems that make cavalry totally uneffective against bayonet. Most important is the low manouvre of heavy and medium horses, any semi-noob player can easily spam stab a horseman without even ever getting into its sword reach, just backpeddle and spam, with a higher manouvre (hussars have it but they don't have the reach and their horse is dead in 1 hit) it would be possible to engage the infantry parry bayonet attacks and respond with a slash, you could go 1v1 with infantry and it will be up to who is the better dueller. Horses should be able to turn quickier like in real life.
Then there is that momemtum thingy that you have already mentioned and the fact horses instantly die after receiving a hit, and the fact that facing a heavy accelerated mass isn't risky as it is in real life.

Little Scottish Girl 说:

If cav aren't skilled enough to kill infantry on horseback, they shouldn't be granted a second wind. they should die like they deserve to.

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made my day.

Btw, the game isn't realistic at all. Otherwise you would die if you try to stab a charging horse from the front.

fix'd

Wait a sec, bayonets can't be longer than lances?

I really wish somebody made a full female battalion (all pink hair and anime ponytails, with flowers in the mouth), competing in line battles, so people will understand how realism breaking it is, or accept this mod isn't so realistic in that aspect and enjoy the lulz.

I can't notice any difference in accuracy between a musket and a rifle. Saving the reticule and reloading speed, I am nearly sure I can do ten times better with a cavalry musket rather than a rifle though.

Lancers are somewaht easier to kill with heavy cavalry, you go in frontally block down and slow down until you're in front fo them, you stop their horse and slash, they can't block so a hit on the head is enough.

Evanovic spinstabbing is the ability to ignore range with a thrust attack because you begin the animation on the side and finish it in front of the enemy, so that you can hit him even if he face hugs you. Simply turning your weapon during the animation is ok to me unless it ghosts through models (spinstabbing basically), the problem is that it's the only way to fight effectively (see greatsword duels in native).