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?Gamescom 2019 (20-24 August)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuZ4w8f_02LZOLgrEwJ_9exzj2WURxGSU
Making a playlist that will try to get all the Gamescom footage from this year.
Also gonna post the Sturgian and Vlandian troop trees
I am liking the new Vlandian tree a lot better, and I think Knights may be a totally different troop tree which is nice
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- 帖子 #178
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Starting Mount
And the marriage option from VC for the Khuzaits out there?NightHawkreal 说:And I would like a horse that can develop its characteristics. As a companion. And with a name.
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- 论坛: The Citadel - General Discussion
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?Gamescom 2018 (Streams, Map, Factions, Perks, Skills, Troop Trees, Concepts)
Lord Milky 说:
Someone hasn't read Orion's signature
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- 帖子 #47
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will spears and pikes be fixed please?
Yay I was right for once in my life, and I hope that they'll add some other incentive to use polearms thenHarmi 说:
Gab-AG. 说: - The Pleb Knight
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will spears and pikes be fixed please?
Pretty sure the thread is about how pikes can kill people who are way past the actual head of the weapon using spins.Rainbow Dash 说:- The Pleb Knight
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Gamescom 2018 expectations
http://lostallhope.comBannerlord_When? 说:
better do your research first- The Pleb Knight
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Is it natural to have nationalistic tendencies towards a faction?
Yes it is, completely natural.Foreign Celt 说: joke question but what are your guy's thought on this circumstance we may find ourselves in the game. Battanians will rule all!!!!!
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Hitting Multiple People
Yes, to stop them from being spammedH E R O O F T H E I M P E R I U M 说:- The Pleb Knight
- 帖子 #326
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Hitting Multiple People
Oh, my bad I still think that the heavy infantry would be able to bust through being more skilled and better equipped thoughRainbow Dash 说:
Thats also ignoring the fact that you are able to somehow to put the heavy infantry behind the front of the infantry formation, but whatever.- The Pleb Knight
- 帖子 #300
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Hitting Multiple People
Rainbow Dash 说:Protector of The Fields 说:Why not? As I said your infantry will be free to kill his if protects his flanksRainbow Dash 说:Did you even read my post a page back? I explained exactly how bezerkers are crucial to the state of the game.
"him"
We are talking about 5 people, each are commanding a squad of light infantry spearmen.
You will not flank the enemy.
How do you know this? The heavy infantry can push up to light infantry where their spears are useless and then spam them to death.Rainbow Dash 说:
So archers will not shoot into the rear of a melee where they have a clear view of the backs of the enemy? This seems pretty dumb to meRainbow Dash 说:
Yes I am ignoring spears in the equation when they're pointed away from you trying to kill someone else. There is no way for them to stop you if they're attacked by surprise, and if you haven't seen they have really buffed charge damage on horses so you might not kill all that many but they will be severely weakened and thrown into disorder where sword infantry rules
I think a lot of this hinges on you thinking heavy infantry can't take on light spearmen which I think is false because they will simply bypass them using their shields unless they've added shield shattering spears or some sort of fear effect that causes them to stay at spear length
How are they going to use those spears or swords with their backs to you? This seems to assume that they will advance slowly in formation which means you get away from them even faster and possibly kite them around to try and get at their other flank or just wait for them to turn around to reinforce then you can shoot them in their backs.Rainbow Dash 说:
"probably"
With what? Heavy infantry? Cavalry? Archers? I already explained how that is not a viable tactic.
They have shields and spears. Archers and Cavalry are useless.
Im not even sure if I can make a serious reply to this since you make so many blind observations and are assuming alot of things that would mever happen in reality and really are either the stupidest enemies in the world or a strawman. Im not sure if you even understand the situation I am proposing.
In fact, I will draw a picture.
All your arguments that consist of
"Just flank them"
"just charge"
"just distract them ez kills"
just fall flat on practice. Look at the damn picture. Do you seriously think flanking and disruption tactics will work on a group of densely packed sheilded spearmen?
Unless some gameplay change was implemented I did not know, for example let cavalry charges bust through a wall of spearmen, or archers shoot through shields was in the game already and I did not know, every single tactic you mention would never work with a cooperative functioning formation like I showed above.This is the idea, with your troops sitting back while the heavy infantry kill the spears until the reserves are forced to fight or run both of which should result in their demise.
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- 帖子 #298
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Hitting Multiple People
Why not? As I said your infantry will be free to kill his if protects his flanksRainbow Dash 说:Did you even read my post a page back? I explained exactly how bezerkers are crucial to the state of the game.
"him"
We are talking about 5 people, each are commanding a squad of light infantry spearmen.
You will not flank the enemy.
How do you know this? The heavy infantry can push up to light infantry where their spears are useless and then spam them to death.Rainbow Dash 说:
So archers will not shoot into the rear of a melee where they have a clear view of the backs of the enemy? This seems pretty dumb to meRainbow Dash 说:
Yes I am ignoring spears in the equation when they're pointed away from you trying to kill someone else. There is no way for them to stop you if they're attacked by surprise, and if you haven't seen they have really buffed charge damage on horses so you might not kill all that many but they will be severely weakened and thrown into disorder where sword infantry rules
I think a lot of this hinges on you thinking heavy infantry can't take on light spearmen which I think is false because they will simply bypass them using their shields unless they've added shield shattering spears or some sort of fear effect that causes them to stay at spear length
How are they going to use those spears or swords with their backs to you? This seems to assume that they will advance slowly in formation which means you get away from them even faster and possibly kite them around to try and get at their other flank or just wait for them to turn around to reinforce then you can shoot them in their backs.Rainbow Dash 说:
"probably"
With what? Heavy infantry? Cavalry? Archers? I already explained how that is not a viable tactic.
They have shields and spears. Archers and Cavalry are useless.- The Pleb Knight
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Hitting Multiple People
How?Rainbow Dash 说:- The Pleb Knight
- 帖子 #288
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Hitting Multiple People
1. Take your cavalry or archers around the flanks and be ready to attack himRainbow Dash 说:
2. I'm going to assume you've taken heavy infantry to fight theirs so take your infantry and attack his.
3. While his soldiers are preoccupied he can either
A. Reinforce his already engaged infantry
- If he does this it leaves him vulnerable to continuous archer fire or cavalry charges both of which will likely turn the fight in your favor
B. Hold back to cover their flanks
- If he does this you can probably just carve through his infantry until you get to the last units where you can flank them
C. Chase after your flanking forces
- Archers are probably faster than infantry with shields and cavalry almost certainly are so you can just run around while your friends kill him and then turn around when he's engaged or possibly charge him while he's out of position
There's probably more that I am not thinking of but oh well.
I'm quite confused how you think berserkers with no shields or armor will fare better against a spearwall than heavily armed and armored infantry though.- The Pleb Knight
- 帖子 #284
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[u][b]Bannerlord in game footage recording via code[/b][/u]
I don't think he canOldpeanutbutter 说:NPC99 说:
Hi NPC99, can you please delete this thread to prevent spam, as it has already been adresssed some time ago previously also.
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- 帖子 #10
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What Faction will you Fight for? [Poll]
Fair enough, just seemed like Battania would be the least consistent faction out of all of them seeing as they're basically higher tier forest bandits. You sure that you don't want to play Sturgia seeing as they're the descendants of the Vaegirs?BlazingScribe 说:
I imagine that means that crossbows will be even more deadly, and Vlandians are almost definitely going to have more variety than literally spearmen and crossbows. They also have archers themselves I think and are probably the most varied faction out of them all except the Imperials perhaps.BlazingScribe 说:
Good choiceAmateurHetman 说:- The Pleb Knight
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What Faction will you Fight for? [Poll]
Are you telling me that you think spear levies, half naked berserkers and the occasional competent footman are going to be a reliable infantry force?BlazingScribe 说:
The precursors to the Swadians are the Vlandians and the prescusors to the Rhodoks are the Swadians. They also seem like the most likely faction to have good spearmen/pikemen and are the only faction to have crossbows that we know of. I think Vlandians would be a much more Rhodok choice honestlyBlazingScribe 说:- The Pleb Knight
- 帖子 #181
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Hittable Corpses
It does look like it could be just how he's falling to me, but early on in the gif you can see that there is a separate damage message for horses and men as well as the fact you can hear some sort of thump when the sword passes through the corpse so it definitely could be there.vicwiz007 说:
Edit: Actually I can see the corpse move forward a bit when he hits it- The Pleb Knight
- 帖子 #10
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Light Infantry Role
Much better said than what I postedOrion 说:Rainbow Dash 说:
"The bigger picture" is that we already know how much people value mobility over protection because of the diversity in equipment selection in Warband. Practically no-one will take lighter armor in Warband if they can afford something that offers more protection (which is typically heavier). The loss of mobility is not considered so significant that it outweighs the benefits. The main concern here is how TaleWorlds will distribute weapons among their differing infantry types in Bannerlord, and whether that will sway people to choose lighter armor for the sake of versatility or damage potential, or if it will be a choice at all (i.e. both types may get throwing weapons of different kinds, in which case efficacy in any situation is just a matter of degree rather than can/can't).
Now then, some of your assumptions are nonsensical, mainly because of an obvious omission. You talk about high damage output of light infantry and the resilience of heavy infantry, but how much damage output does the heavy infantry have? You've just pigeonholed them into this "exists only to take a beating" role, when really they are the ultimate meatgrinder in the game that is the most relevant to compare Bannerlord with: Warband. Why are you projecting the class archetypes of Overwatch onto Bannerlord? What purpose does that serve, and how on Earth is it relevant in any way? Bannerlord has never been, is not, and will never be a MOBA, MMO, or traditional class-based RPG. The "trinity" of classes just doesn't exist in M&B. Nobody is a healer, an individual's tankiness is determined by a combination of skill and equipment, and everyone will have high lethality that is entirely dependent on skill. Nobody is forced into the strict roles you're trying to shove them into. Every class will have good capacity for damage because it is an absolute necessity for the balance of the game. This must be complemented by a balanced selection of armor for all classes, as all classes must be viable against all others even if not necessarily ideal (i.e. an archer should be capable of winning in melee against a heavy infantryman if the archer is skilled or lucky enough).
Secondly, all this talk of counters to this and that is pointless. Everything is situational, being dependent on terrain and loadouts. There are many situations where even the most commonly agreed counter is not effective or not the most effective. For instance, infantry are typically considered counters to cavalry because infantry get spears. What if an infantryman doesn't have a spear, but he has javelins instead? In an open field he's just like a less accurate archer to a cavalryman, and cavalry is typically considered a counter to archers. Does the cavalry then counter the infantry? What if we put that infantryman in a building? Now he counters the cavalry without a spear, because the cavalry can't reach him in the first place. Cavalry counters archers when cavalry has armored horses, but if they have unarmored horses then archers can easily kill their mounts and turn them into subpar infantry with small shields. Then archers counter cavalry, because dismounted cavalry is slow with poor shield coverage. Your purpose as a commander in singleplayer is to position yourself & exploit terrain in such a way that you minimize the strengths of your opponents while you maximize your own. In multiplayer you do the same thing as an individual and as a team via coordination with other players. This game is not like rock-paper-scissors where one thing always beats the other but is always defeated by something else.
Despite having the ability to run around in T-shirts with stacks of javelins in Warband, we have seen time and again over the years that this is not a reliable tactic. Neither are any gimmicks, like full archer teams or two-handed hammer swarming. Everything is viable, as it should be. How effective it is in practice should be determined solely by skill, and you need a big skill differential to pull off one-dimensional gimmicks like that.- The Pleb Knight
- 帖子 #48
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Light Infantry Role
You do know you can't throw while not facing the enemy right? If you do face them you will be a lot slower than even heavy infantry while walking backwards.Rainbow Dash 说:
That being said you're at a disadvantage being flanked by any troop type
Why would knights be useless? I'm going to assume you mean foot knights of some sort since Vlandian Knights would massacre light infantry. Foot knights would probably have shields and heavy armor which means they can tank the javs and every time the light infantry turns around to throw them the heavy infantry will be able to get a lot closer and the light infantry will have to fight or keep running which will prevent them from doing any damage. Same thing with Legionnaires assuming they aren't given throwing weapons of their own.Rainbow Dash 说:
Because you are made a lot more durable? I'm not sure what you mean by being made a massive target since you would already be a massive target if you're well equipped.Rainbow Dash 说:
Having good armor and weapons helps in Warband tooRainbow Dash 说:
To counter light infantry you can take heavy infantry, heavy/light cavalry, or better light infantry. You could also use archers or crossbowmen to whittle them down before they get to you.Rainbow Dash 说:
I wouldn't mind hearing why cav needs a nerf, I personally think it needs changed but not a flat nerf.
You should just make this your forum signatureRainbow Dash 说:- The Pleb Knight
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Dev Blog 31/05/18
Yep, they're here apparentlyJuanNieve 说:
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