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Nantafiria 说:

Varyags aren't better units than legionaries or sergeants. Legionaries have better armor and a mace option, sergeants have a mace option and can get throwing weapons the legionaries can't(pilas suck). Both factions also have shieldless infantry of their own in the form of voulgiers and menavliatoi, who have an additional edge against cavalry(OR WOULD HAVE, IF THE AI KNEW BOTHERED TO TRY AND FIGHT CAVALRYMEN AT ALL)

That's two out of five further factions whose infantry can at least go toe-to-toe with the Sturgians. It's true the Khuzaits, Aserai, and Battanians basically can't; Khuzaits and Aserai just aren't infantry factions, so that's fine. Battania is a bit undertuned in general and just needs to get some of its options buffed.

And really, if your team's archers can't figure out a way to commit crossfire tactics or fire from elevated points, they deserve to waste their dumb ammo against the shield wall they're up against.

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Nantafiria 说:

Yes, Sturgian zerkers can roll up with 2h maces, and then get absolutely dabbed on by the enemy infantry's javelins or just archer fire. Or we could recognise that it's not very fun for varyags and oathsworn not to have maces and thereby let them pick such weapons just fine.

Insofar shields are concerned, I think shields tanking arrows indefinitely is fine, they just last too long vs melee strikes.

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MCKOY 说:

- Controlling the flags should make the stars(morale?) switch sides faster. They move so slowly they're basically meaningless in 9/10 matches. Everytime a round ends this way I see at least one player who literally did not know the flags did anything at all.

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Terco_Viejo 说:

There is life beyond the Vikings... hoplitic phalanxes, triple Roman line, chiliarchai and Byzantine parentaxis etc.

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Rigan 说:

I appreciate that, don't get me wrong I enjoy the current gamemode.

But when you have three points to capture and a bunch of random players together with little means of communication, you end up with teammates all going their own ways and the battle is quickly lost. So by having a mode without any points at all, leaves no room for there to be any confusion about what the objective is...to slaughter

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.Brandis 说:

Again the servers are currently 6 new players vs 6 new players in like 90% of games. You can win with any faction against any faction.

I stopped playing because the level of games was so painfully low and I imagine other beta players have done the same. It was possible to solo queue captain in beta because most people got to an average level understanding. Currently, everyone is just running in random directions and camping the back of the map. Give them the slightest bit of advice and you get flamed to hell and back.

I want MMR primarily for Skirmish, but it would be so satisfying in Captain as well.

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Terco_Viejo 说:

That AI behavior you're talking about should honestly be questioned internally by the AI team. Why is "more passive" and "defensive" behavior in shield wall mode? Instead of limiting the agent's aggressiveness why don't you limit the agent's mobility (let it go to walk mode like when we press Capslock)? Why do you deliberately limit my playable experience if I want to position spear or pikelike units without shields in shieldwall formation conditioning the ai to a passive and less aggressive behavior?


Let me choose, to get right and to fail. Indeed I'll worry about rotating the formation if it's being flanked or positioning it correctly if I'm receiving enemy fire. I honestly don't understand why you castrate Ai in this way; the best defense is a good offense.


In defensive (theoretically static) formations like the square or the circle, I'm fine with this kind of limitation of the bot's "aggressiveness". However, the same aggressiveness of the agents has to be considered equally in line, shield wall and wedge formations.

(*) And all this can also be extrapolated to the SP.

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