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Looking at some of the vanilla armors, in my opinion some of them look kinda "off" or in my personal opinion kinda unappetizing (especially when I found out about what is probably the reference for some of the armor
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In my opinion the plates are a bit too huge making it a bit immobile, the armpits are not that well protected as well. In my opinion this can be some sort of lamellar for low tier troops. The repro of the lamellar that the larper is wearing it self is not of good quality
here is reference for khuzait high tier lamellar:
14th century Turco Mongol lamello laminar
Im going to post the rest in page 43, along with helmet references and some personal suggestions.- kalpok
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some of the helmets are fitting for sturgia, i spot the chernigov helmet (we already have that) with a feather, and the find from kiev. also i dont think it would be a good idea to give the sturgians a 15th - 16th century hat.
Please add the armor and helmets of this mod to the original.
Armor pack (UPDATED 21.02.2021)
Updated my pack of armor.ATTENTION! if you have previously installed the Aserai_helmets mod, remove it to avoid conflicts
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cool! that reminds me of a rus helmet but with a nasal guardTried to refresh my blender and texturing knowledge by editing the infamous 'ravioli helmet'.
Helmet "Bukvitza". XIV-XV A.D. - TRUE HISTORY SHOP | ARMOUR, HELMET, WEAPONRY, CLOTHES
Rus XIV-XV century Price is with the "grill" under chainmail. But without chainmail (!)
truehistoryshop.com
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the man on top is cool but the one below is wearing a helmet that of the 14th century and up. it would be cool if the aserai was more islamic persian tbh or maybe even pre islamic persian!- kalpok
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the certain type of helmet that the horseman (with the blue caparison) is wearing is a helmet with a mask commonly being used by cuman - kipchaks nomads (and probably other nomads like the volga bulgars or the earlier khazars) that lived around the volga river area and the pontic steppe, this certain type of war mask helmet have been found in lipovets, kovali mostly ( or all i think ) founded in nomadic burials, they were also probably worn by the khans or rich warriors or for heavy cavalry uses.
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yes that one is more correct, the one in the art looks like an european style kettle helmAlthough the guy always exaggerates the models, he is not misguided. This type of helmet is, after all, a variant of chapel de fer-capellinas / kettle hat - war hat; very much used by Andalusian troops (So...It is plausible that a "Saracen" would use this type of helmet...). You can take a look at the Cantigas de Santa María manuscripts of which I am very sure that @Al_Mansur was inspired for his magnificent models.
yes that one is more correct, the one in the art looks like an european style kettle helm, but we (or i) dont have evidence for the use of kettle helmets to be worn in the middle eastAlthough the guy always exaggerates the models, he is not misguided. This type of helmet is, after all, a variant of chapel de fer-capellinas / kettle hat - war hat; very much used by Andalusian troops (So...It is plausible that a "Saracen" would use this type of helmet...). You can take a look at the Cantigas de Santa María manuscripts of which I am very sure that @Al_Mansur was inspired for his magnificent models.
the outermer knight isnt a middle easterner- kalpok
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yes i am trying to simply them
well since hes an andalusian its probably possible for him to get a kettle helmet but im not sure for other sultanates, emirates, shahdoms in the middle east. also that greek artist draws lots of innacurate stuff- kalpok
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im not sure about the saracens using kettle hats, but as far as i know there is no evidence of them using kettle hats
also the Ghilman dude with the blue horse is wearing a 13th century cuman kipchak helmet, not sure about that too- kalpok
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Woah, first time seeing this interesting indeed it all makes more sense nowFriend, first of all you might want to know what the word "Celt" means.
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i dont think the celts used falxes like weapons, if there is i need proof- kalpok
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i saw two clones of my post and i think i accidentally deleted the merged one lol
snail mask for the empire. they can also use the sturgian mask helmet since the kievan rus borrowed lots of armor from the ERE, and yes i know that the sutton hoo helm is anglo saxon, but the battanians have the dacian falx which is not celtic at all- kalpok
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Khuzait (re edited since old post is very messy)
helmets
^ helmet from Multa river belonging to a 9th - 11th century kimak warrior
^ 12th - 14th century Kyrgyz helmet from Kyzlasov Khakass museum.
^12th - 13th c helmet from south western Kazakhstan based on depictions from Persian miniatures and a local drawing.
khazar helmet from Dmitrovka
for Aserai, i feel like this faction needs more love in terms of armor.
13th century mamluke finds from damascus citadel, you can find similar helmets like this from islamic iberian (spain) depiction
Boiled leather lamellar
helmet from kairouan, tunisia
european depiction of Nureddin sultan wearing it
thats it for today.
Vlandia
credit to Pavel Alekseychik- kalpok
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armor for sturgians
the small amount of slavic helmets for sturgia hurts me
i edited gave the helmets some dating and stuff so that the devs would not mistake it for cuman helmets, in which they are totally not.
^ helmet from nikolskoe, oryol settlement 13th century, below from kiev 13th century. late for bannerlord, but we have 13th -14th century coat of plates and a 14th century helmet for sturgia so why not?
^ half mask from western Russia near belarus from Vshizh/vschizh 12th century
below helmet from raikovets, 12th - early 13th century.
helmet from oskol river 10th century rus and khazar (sturgia and northern khuzait)
below nasal fragment from Izborsk. helmet is probably egg shaped
Norse and Skolderbrotva stuff for the nordic population in sturgia
^ helmet from yarm 10th century.
below helmet from lokrume 10th century. should totally be for the nordic population in sturgia. gjermundbu helmet is overrated.
Since the sons of the forest are based on the finns and balts, here are some suggestions
^helmet from slonim 12th 13th century
nice historical art.
I'm very sad that the presence of Rus styled spectacle/half mask helmets in this game for Sturgia is zero, yet lots of Norse style spectacle helmets, so I decide to make this crude ass helm design thing.
rus inspired
lamellar for sturgia:
this is supposed to be based on-
rus riveted scale I assume? imo it can do better, Like this
this one is crude
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