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Boardsword Dandy 说:

As you reform the Dragon Banner for the main quest, you got choice to...
1: Create an new kingdom - Get an non-imperial fief by any means, and from there onward to your own kingdom.
2: Support a Kingdom - Give the banner to the faction leader of an non-imperial kingdom, and join as a vessel.
3: Create an new imperial faction - Get an imperial fief by any means, and from there onward to be an new imperial faction.
4: Support an imperial faction - Give the banner to one of the 3 imperial faction leaders, and join as a vessel.

But you can form your own Kingdom or Faction at any given moment in the game anyway, the form kingdom/faction part in the main quest were only listed out the basic guide line for you to follow as a new player who have NEVER played M&B before.

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WhiteEyedSh4rk 说:

Well, you obviously care about it, otherwise you wouldn't have created this thread.

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WhiteEyedSh4rk 说:

How about you complete it yourself to find it out? And how about a spoiler warning in the title?

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iloveubaby 说:

It leads to relations diving into abyss and currently I don't know any way to fix relations. Thanks though.

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iloveubaby 说:

BTW is there any way to declare war on other kingdom when you have hatched your own? The button "declare war" is grey and no one is going to attack me.

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Zerilius 说:

But this option only comes when the enemy lord catches you or is willing to fight and not run away from you. So in that case why would he surrender right away?
In cases where you catch them the dialogues are different

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Isus_Magna 说:

That's one of my main issues with the game and to a degree, with Warband. The NPC don't follow the rules as the player do; Ghost armies out of nowhere, unlimited money, no attrition in sieges, no surrender, etc.

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GitiUsir 说:

Then it could be the executions changed your traits to dishonorable or something, and this triggered a chain reaction when some honorable lords defected? I really don't know. We should know how the power level is calculated as well.

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GitiUsir 说:

Ok. Another question is if the fiefs were distributed among clans. I wouldn't be surprised if clans without fiefs switched kingdoms.

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GitiUsir 说:

This sounds interesting. But first what does it mean a weak kingdom? Having less lords than the enemy overall, or having less fiefs + parties + money, or having less clans, or having lower tier clans....

Another question is if developers added a rule to balance power. I.e. in Warband there is a fixed number of lords and there is a tendency to distribute them evenly among kingdoms, although it isn't perfect. In Bannerlord I think the number of clans is fixed so to balance it they would tend to distribute clans evenly. Or to hire minor factions / mercenaries.

I don't know yet how this works

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Dodgy 说:

Well, if you did have 100 relation with all of them prior to them defecting you, it does sound strange.

Only thing I can think of is personalities (if the lords defecting you were disonhonorable) and the Aserai were paying them good money... at the end of the day, it's the same thing you can do to them back and forth... it's all about the money. With 100 relation I would assume an honorable lord wouldn't defect you, but I suppose disonhorable ones will not care for relation value if offered enough money/fiefs?

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Friendly 说:

Lmao these posts Maybe you should provide further information/examples OP

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Dodgy 说:

I suspect your "few" executions, might have worsened your relation with those lords that ended up defecting you.

You reap what you sow they say...

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