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quote author=KiriKaneko link=topic=365361.msg8802559#msg8802559 date=1500577949]
Well it's not really a cheat though his it? It's a part of the game design. It's like saying chaos blade roll backstabbers in Dark Souls 1 were cheaters for using the most effective method of pvp available when there were many other inferior weapons and techniques they could have been using. Yes it was very easy, and it was very boring, and many people complained that it was easy and boring and the hardcore members of the community called them scrubs and told them to git gud. But the company listened and made changes so that backstabbing wouldn't be so easy in future games. I don't think the hardcore players were wrong to backstab, and I don't think the "scrubs" were wrong to point out that it was unbalanced. It was a part of the game by design but it was also unbalanced and it was on the company to change it in future dark souls games

Luring unique spawns into noldor and marshall armies is objectively easier and more rewarding than struggling to reach a high level and become a marshall before you start to fight them, and it's in the game, it isn't a cheat or an exploit. It's very easy yes, and that means the game is very easy. What I'm suggesting is it should be nerfed to make the game harder and to create a more even power advancement curve.

I'm not saying "look at how awesome I am for doing this"

I'm not saying "Look at this cheat I found"

And I'm not saying "This is easy and how the game should be"

I'm saying "This is easy and should probably be nerfed"

Is it easy? Yes. Is it legit? Yes. Does it throw off the balance? Yes. So rather than trying to distract by strawmanning me and saying I'm bragging or "cheating" why don't you explain why a method that's easy, legit and unbalanced shouldn't be rebalanced? I can understand if it can't be balanced but then at the very least the game should make it clear at some point that it's against the "rules" and would be patched out if it were possible, and ask the player not to do it which would be better than making it possible and easy to do and not apparently any sort of a cheat or an exploit

I mean, you can restrict yourself if you want and I'm not judging you for doing that. Just seems like you aren't addressing my arguments here.

Also not saying that it must be changed. I think it should be changed but maybe the developers like their mod to be easy which is fine too. Not all mods have to be 1257AD, Brytenwalda or Clash of Kings, easy mods are fine as well. Just putting forth my opinion that the mod would be more rewarding if this was changed so that it was harder. More rewarding for experienced players anyway, perhaps not for new players who need easy qualis gems and wouldn't want it to be changed, and might try to sabotage any conversation about nerfing unique spawn luring to protect their easy qualis gems
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