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Sorry that would involve Taleworlds adding something to multiplayer.

flashn00b 说:

I get that you're trying to make fun of me, but would you rather walk around in a ghost town of a map, unable to get a feel of the game's balance changes due to a complete lack of a testbed to utilize said changes on?

Bot matches aren't the best thing to test balance changes on, but it's much better than nothing.

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It really doesn't matter because Taleworlds doesn't listen to feedback.

Niklaus 说:

You would probably just complain about the bots being hackers anyways

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He clearly said training dummies so the bots wouldn't have an attack.

Please can Taleworlds put a second person on mp development.

Either play via the server browser or play events, I'd recommend the Calradic Campaign, it's very noob friendly. https://discord.gg/mountandblade

If you think the vanilla mp is unbalanced play some mods like the Calradic Campaign to see a more balanced version.

The forum really has degraded.

Younes 说:

The reasoning for no multiplayer is baffling shallow in this thread. You'd expect the little brain cells from these individuals to look around the gaming industry and see there are plenty of singleplayer experiences that have a great multiplayer experience.

You're bowing down to weak development of the devs, not of the idea itself of a good multiplayer.

There was a time this wasn't even a discussion because everyone knows the game had a potential. You're just now coming out with this "it's a singleplayer game so we shouldn't have expected good things" because you saw the final failed result.

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With development being so slow what are people meant to do. The mp barely gets anything even though there's tons of potential. Taleworlds should probably hand the mp over to a player assembly made of the BRE, CC etc. I know the CC people for instance are very balance focused and do a better job than Taleworlds much of the time. Of course this would never happen as it is a shot in the dark but it's not without precedent, Blizzard handed starcraft 2 over to high level players for balancing when they no longer wanted to work on it and it generally looks like Taleworlds doesn't want to develop MP.

flashn00b 说:

I mean, I'd the strongest units go up against the absolute bottom of the barrel of the roster, the people playing the strong units can just turn their brains off and still win. You just want the steamroller to keep rolling nonstop

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Even the strongest unit can only take a few hits from the weakest. The deciding factors of a duel are 50% player skill, 30% class pick and 20% random chance/others getting involved.

Galdr 说:

Alboin​

Sergeant Knight at Arms

· From Poland
Joined Apr 22, 2020

Actual veterans of this game who played hardcore both SP and MP are from 2014. Wtf do you want? Why do you say that noone care about MP as if its some universal truth and not just your sad noobish braindead opinion?! You prolly never played Warband.

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Considering you have a very new account you're probably not the best person to say this. But as a 2017 account which for some reason gives me some credit, yes MP has been a big part of the community for a long time and it was even bigger in Warband the small size today is solely taleworlds messing up bannerlord mp.

flashn00b 说:

Sure I can fight back. I'll just not play Empire. I know it'll never happen, but I'd appreciate having a reason to.

Nope. I play it because Bannerlord's offerings as a multiplayer game are insufferable to the point where "it's the Steam counterpart to an EGS exclusive" isn't a good enough reason to keep playing. Nice to know I'm still the only sane person here. In fact, if I'm perfectly honest, the insanity of BL MP makes the intentional imbalancing in other games look sane in comparison

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Please duel me, I'll prove to you that recruit or the empire isn't terrible. You could also listen to what everyone is saying. Or you could look at the actual stats for things like empire win rate and recruit versus other troops.

Namakan 说:

honestly just stop posting at this point.

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No, he's the hero we need to balance multiplayer and stop the onslaught of the devastating vlandian peasant levy which can destroy entire armies by itself. After that is fixed bannerlord will go on to become the largest multiplayer game ever.

Goyyyio 说:

Hey but now you can do taunts and fortnight dances in Bannerlord how cool is that??? - just don't mention the 16 mins of waiting for a matchmaking game to 1v1 a veteran and lose in a second -

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Why would you even match make, join everyone else in the TDM server afking for loot.

Greedalicious 说:

Without Taleworld supporting the multiplayer, it will die. Without updates and patches people will leave and stop paying attention. Someone could make the best mod in the universe for multiplayer and most players wouldnt know about it, because they either dont look at forums or stop paying attention to the game in general. How many games do you pay attention to once you've stopped playing it?

People saying mods will save the multiplayer are wrong. It just keeps us alive for a while longer.

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Taleworlds need to do a soft relaunch to actually get people interested again. Because their dev update that contains a reference to adding 1 net helmet to the cosmetic shop that takes 5 hours of grinding on public servers to unlock doesn't entice anyone.

Outside of events around 1% of all players at any one time play multiplayer (use steamdb and the server browser to check this). Taleworlds may have created this statistic but at this point they have no good reason to fix it.

Galdr 说:

Make Siege more authentic. Add engineer and logistic classes that maintain and defend siege equipment as well as the ammo. Ammo carts must be moved from edge of the map to the siege weapons. The maps can be bigger, most of the maps have large utilized parts or areas. Make authentic spawn points where soldiers must pick the gear they want before heading to battle. Cav players spawn on foot and must go to the stables (attacker also has some kind of make-shift stables where they keep all the spare horses). Prox chat, Friendly Fire on. No team picking but auto balance by numbers. No faction voting, make it random or mirror.

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That's persistent empires so play that.

not-tancfire 说:

Your perspective is reasonable.

Striking a balance between strategic infiltration (backcapping) and realistic defense is essential. Your proposed solution of unlocking both frontal and rear flags upon capturing a frontal flag adds dynamic gameplay while curbing frustrating backcapping experiences.

The difficulty in defending rear points may depend on player numbers and team balance, but this challenge has always been present. Your idea enhances the overall gameplay experience by maintaining strategic opportunities and addressing backcapping issues.

Additionally, it's unfortunate that, as usual, Taleworlds may likely not take any action to address the problem, despite potential solutions.

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Taleworlds is small indie study please understand.

Backcapping is bad, it's nearly impossible to defend because of the people who go and capture G. Yet when I'm playing as attacker there is so often a flag in front of me that to take would be considered backcapping but what else do I do. It's not cheating or rule breaking but Taleworlds should probably remove it but making further back flags require capping other flags to unlock.
Let's take Baravenos encirclement. A and F should be open at the start. After capping A, B and E should be opened. After F C. After Capping B C should be opened. After capping C or E D should unlock which once captured unlocks G. That's just an example and retains the attacking in multiple directions and flanking but stops annoying runners that can't be stopped.

The levy is on par with the peasant in melee assuming sickle and shield. If it takes 5 players to kill one then the 5 players must be terrible and the peasant player excellent. I've found its fairly easy to get kills with both peasants and especially recruits, just throw javelins into melee.