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Daedelus_McGee 说:

Jammen690 说:

Lol. I think its funny sometimes. Its really nice when they all go to war then you can sneak in and steal a few castels and cities and 24 hours later be at peace with them. Yea its probally an expoilt but it's still fun.

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I just hate spending a lot of time and effort building relationships with a nation and see it go to stink without warning or mitigation. 

If we could build a meta-relationship that had lasting value, that would be nice.  We have this to a limited extent with Lord, Town, and Village relationships.  It would be nice if our relationship numbers just took the -/+30 hit instead of the zeroing it takes now. 
Does this mean that we'd lose the "War's over, all murderous criminals get a free pass!" exploit?
Yes, and good riddance to it. 

Now that I think about it, a variation of the "Make Sure Two Lords Do Not Object to Peace" quest could be just arranging for one lord to suffer a permanent mischief because one side won't make peace until that bloody-handed troll is buried.  Preferably at a crossroads...with a stake through his hear, his head cut off, and his testicles poached in a rosemary-basil cream sauce.

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DoctorPringles 说:

How'd you guys learn it? I wouldn't mind digging in and giving you guys some help, if at all possible. I'm already familiar with C++ and machine language, but this doesn't look even similar to either.

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hydrax 说:

Hey guys, im on day 100 and the crashing has started.

my specs are;
windows 7
i7 q740 1.73ghz 8CPUs
4gb ram
Geforce gts 350m 2743MB

Ive done all the crash fixes on the faq page but they didnt solve anything.

RGL:

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The crash now occurs few seconds when I launch my save.. literally I move a bit on the map and crash. So, anyone found a solution to these? Im playing 2.5b as I dont want to start again

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fysical 说:

Tiarilir 说:

fysical 说:

Hello everyone i have a minor problem here.. I recruit a lord but he doesent recruit soldiers, or atleast he haven't for 2 weeks.

And I have a question to, how can i get trade agreements with other kingdoms ?

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The lord can be slow on recruiting soldiers. Be sure that he has at least one fief (village, castle or city). It can take more than 1 month before he recruits, and even longer before he is done. Try giving him marshal and see if that helps him recruit, it gives him extra money.

To have a trade agreement with other kingdoms you need to be recognized as a faction leader. You get recognized by sending an emissary with a letter of goodwill from one monarch to another, and it requires higher Right to Rule (found in character report notes), decent relations with the factions, and decent relation with the king, to work.

To get relation with the king try to duel him alot once you have high renown

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Oh thanks, You wouldent happen to know why the game crashes everytime i enter a big fight that is'nt a siege or a defend? I have a new computer so it's not because of that.

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DoctorPringles 说:

I like the idea of faith granting relation boosts, and was even thinking that myself. Perhaps on the penalties for having opposing religion, they could be limited to never going below 0. Because -that- could cause a lot of problems. I understand that the world goes to war over religion all the time, but we're not exactly focusing on realism. xD

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DoctorPringles 说:

EDIT: I'd like to make a suggestion regarding the economic system in this mod. Whenever I go to invest in land for a productive enterprise through the guild masters, they always have the same cost/profit ratios in every type of product. Every city has high profits on wine, low profits on other drinks, high cost/profits on weaving linen and weaving/dyeworks, and mid-low profits on ironworks. Do you think we could get a bit of variation in the economic system? Or is this already being done? For instance, the Legion and Antarian Empires are right next to mountains, so ideally they'd be making a hefty profit selling iron. However, because it's a mountainous region, they would not be able to sell very much wine, which would bring profits down. I think it'd add quite a bit of fun trying to figure out where to sell what.

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fysical 说:

Hello everyone i have a minor problem here.. I recruit a lord but he doesent recruit soldiers, or atleast he haven't for 2 weeks.

And I have a question to, how can i get trade agreements with other kingdoms ?

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manekemaan 说:

haha you really should go check out the mercenarys :p thats exactly what they do

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manekemaan 说:

ah yes :p we totaly kept the faith out of consideration :p

you have a point alurian, the new are al based on the old ^^

tiarilir, would you then suggest some kind of mercenaries? i mean, those are available to all faction.

so narrowing down the basic faction troop tree, making them more specialised and replacing what is currently missing by mercenaries? that is kinda what happens in sod gold already isn't it? example the jotnar clan is hired by the nords, jotnar clan have very good cavalry.

sorry if I misunderstood once more :p my mind is clouded lately

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LordXenu 说:

Currently have a problem with both 3.0B and 2.4. Anytime I train a village against bandits, as soon as I'm done and try to leave the game crashes. Any idea how to fix this?

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LordXenu 说:

Removed and reinstalled the 3.0b file and patch and started a new game hoping that would fix the problem. Everything was going fine for an hour or so, but it seems to have a chance to crash anytime I save. My computer is well above the specs, so the computer shouldn't be a problem.

Any idea how to fix this bug? A friend who recommended SoD to me hasn't had any problems with 3.0B, so I don't know what it could be. I'm running XP and he's running Windows 7 if that helps.

Other than this bug I don't have any problems, the mod is fantastic.

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manekemaan 说:

ah yes I get what you mean. But that would also take away each factions advantage over an other me thinks...

i mean, the rhodoks get their advantage in battle because of their superior crosbowmen. If the rhodocks would siege on the swadians, and the swadians would have the exact same crosbowmen, the rhodocks would completely lose their advantage.

example: In sod 5.0 gold I found this bug in which the rhodocks (lol what a coincidence) as the last faction remaining had been recruiting such a large amount of antarian units (my faction) trough building baracks, stables and partice ranges in their castles/towns that 3/4 of their army consisted of the antarian units.

concequence? I completely lost my advantage during sieges/field battles as having superior infrantry because I was being countered with the same units. On the other hand, the rhodocks only had a handfull of crosbowmen on the field thus losing their normal ranged advantage.

In fact It was almost like I was fighting a rebel faction of my own faction...

but back to the case at hand.

What you are thinking of is a  troop tree like this?
                                                                        ----------- horse archer -------------- veteran horse archer
                                              ------------archer
              ------------skirmisher                          ---------- veteran archer -------------- marksman
                                              ------------ crosbowmen-------------- veteran crosbowman --------- sharpshooter
    recruit                                                                  ---------- man at arms ----------------- knight
                                                ----------- footman
                      ----------- militia                              --------- warrior ----------------veteran ----------- huscarl
                                                ------------ spearman ---------- veteran spearman -------- sergeant

or something like this?
Meaning as much units in a single tree?

I'm kinda against it... I like the fact that each faction has a certain elite unit, and certain "supporting units" giving the elite units some kind of benefits by being able to perform a certain tactic, like I described earlier.

I think we should start with this vision and work this out more in depth.

for example factions like swadia and aden just have a EVERYONE CHARGE!!!! tactic in which horses will pwn all and sieges will be a headache. In my opinion this is one of the factions that require the most work. Factions like villianese etc are in my opinion pretty much finished.
                                                                       

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DoctorPringles 说:

Well, he's not necessarily wanting to take away the elite units, just make them really hard to get and make all the precursor units very similar between factions. While he's right, that would be much simpler, I think it would take away from the game. Like I've said, I personally prefer the complexity of the troop trees and being able to notice a difference between, say, a Swadian crossbowman and a Rhodok crossbowman. Like Manekmaan said, simplifying and narrowing the troops would blurr the differences even further.

I'm actually a bit confused, and I'm hoping you can clear this up for me, Tiarilir. You want the factions to be less similar, but you want certain troops to be more similar. Is this a correct assessment? If so, my question further is, if you make the lower-tier troops more similar, what are your ideas for diversifying the factions?

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DoctorPringles 说:

Have you tried switching to the 3.0 beta? I've noticed a large improvement over 2.4, especially in map lag. However, I have also noticed that the lag is indeed largely in part to the bandits/raiders/etc. in the game. Later in the game, when there are a lot fewer, you'll notice a lot less lag. I've also noticed that, when there's any sort of diplomacy change going on, it lags quite a lot. For instance, when it says "Kingdom of Swadia and Kingdom of Rhodok have concluded a trade agreement.", it will lag for about 5 seconds prior to the message. It's worse when there's several.


Oh, btw, the link for 3.0b is http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2671

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manekemaan 说:

I can understand your points tiarilir but as pringels replied, everyone has his/her own way of playing.

I myself agree completely with you that every faction should have its own kind of units/ specialities. But I must also disagree with you considering the new faction = to the old. They are based on at most.

Let me expand:

Vaegirs are an archer based faction, with medium-heavy cavalery to break the enemy ranks and two handed axeman (guards) to finish them off.

Villianese are an archer based faction, with very light horse archers(scouts) to harras the enemy and make them turn their shield away from the main force and very defensive infrantery for in case the enemy ignores the horse archers(scouts) and charges for the archers.


Nords are an shield and axe based shock infrantry faction, with longbowmen to support the main infrantry force and to help in sieges.

Antarians are a two handed shock infrantry faction, with javelinmen to break the enemy shields and ranks

Rhodocks are a crosbow, pike and shield faction, the crossbow thin the enemy ranks while the pikemen keep the horses at bay and finish of the infrantry when it gets close

the marinians are a crossbow and halberd faction, in this case they both have the same role but the difference between a pike and shield faction and a halbard faction is that the halbard is a less good againt cavalry but much better against infrantry

the swadians are a heavy cav faction, with heavy armored infrantry and medium skilled crosbowmen

the adenians are a heavy cav faction, more spear based cavalry tough, with medium infrantry and medium archers.
About these 2 factions the difference is mostly in the crosbow vs archer,the heavy inf vs medium and the morningstar/sword cav vs spear cav

the khergits horse archer and spear horsemen

the zerrikians i have never played with so no idea...

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Chaosye 说:

Well, I know you can pay money to lords, but for some reason whenever I try to talk to a lord that's inside a castle I immediately end the conversation with "The Audience is over" or something like that

To pay the money do you have to be on really good terms with the enemy lord?

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Colonel_Ryan 说:

veni, vidi, vici !

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