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Vilhjalmr 说:

You can't, unless you download python and the module system.

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The Mercenary 说:

Thank you for reviving a thread that has been dead for three months.

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The Yogi 说:

Valaeryn 说:

Agreed. :3  We've been without a valid argument on the pro-side of dual wielders for a while.

-ahem-  inb4thejinx

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Well, here's one to close the debate. No one has argued against the widespread historical use of the Sword/Buckler combo, also in war, during the time period modeled by the game. A buckler is a kind of shield, granted, but it's use could not be accurately modeled in M&B making it a shield becaue

1) It's useless against arrows or other projectiles, too small

2) You can't cover behind it, but have to make active parries

3) It was used to attack, although this is also true for "normal" shields. The buckler in particular was used more offensively than the later off-hand dagger when combined with an arming sword.

For those reasons, bucklers could only be properly represented by introducing dual-wielding mechanics into the game. Those would also allow normal shields to be more acurately represented. Now, I would like all those "gritty realism" defenders to come up with a reason why this particualr piece of reality should be left out, all in the interest of "greater realism".

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KON_Air 说:

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There, done.

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13 Spider Bloody Chain 说:

After watching youtube vids of mock-duels where a spear-and-shieldman was rendered worthless by a cheap shield, I have to wonder how the average spearman was expected to defeat someone equipped with a decent-sized (that is, covering most or all of the upper torso) shield.

Any spear-wielding martial artists around?

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Dava27 说:

but you dont train them, you just get volunteers, adult men who lived their whole lives like nords (or whatever) it would take months to retrain them. If you fight and hunt with bow and spear for 30 years you cant just begin to fight with sword on horseback...

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Merentha 说:

WarCleric 说:

Has enyone here practiced sword fighting? not fencing, fighting whit medieval european swords
"Fiore dei libre" is the sports name i think

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Fiore de Liberi is an Italian author who wrote Flos Duellatorum, a rather important work for any student of medieval combat in 1410.  Most people who study longsword or combat, however, use Liechtenauer, since he was both earlier and started the German school of swordsmanship.  Further, while Fiore wrote one book, Leichtenauer spawned a whole host of other masters, including Meyer, Doebringer, Ringeck, and Danzing. 

edit:  So, yes, I've done some work in the field, using both the Leichtenauer tradition and drawing from Silver and de Liberi as well. 

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Kraven 说:

WarCleric 说:

give me an example of a country/culture where men acctually marched out to war whit "dual wield".
A man on a battlefield whit two swords in his hands is silly completly unrealistic
i cant get why people are so fond of it

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No cultures did it, a few individuals has been said to have done so though.
Unrealistic? Very very few people are ambidexterous, personally one of the few, those few people it isnt unrealistic for, (gotta admit though 1 handed and shield is a stronger combo).
Fond of it? Well cause to be able to is always nice, not needed, but the choice is still nice.

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rageshrub 说:

I find using a mix of troops from different factions is better, because while Nords have good infantry, Swadians have good cavalry and Vaegirs have good missile troops. So personally, I'm against this idea.
If you look at it from a realistic point of view, it would take decades of occupation to make an impact on a culture, not a few days.

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Mad Skillz 说:

Hardcore made a script that makes captured villages produce new owner's troop types after a day of ownership. not sure where you could get it, but you could find it then put it into Native, I'm sure.

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