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Perhaps you can upload your version then?

In mine, shields can take many blows from an Axe (which is fair enough, except even a tiny fur shield can take a lot of hits), and Hammers only knockdown on a character that isn't holding their shield up. Also, in my Mount and Blade, the tiniest shield can stop a fully wound up two handed hammer blow.

Don't forget the black Khergits.

There was a version where they were Terminators, cannot remember exactly which version it was now...Sorely missed bandit types and more explainable in the setting than DK's (Though I would still like them back).

Armagan et al, please spend any time on updates for this game tending to better quests, or something else productive, not worrying about boobies showing with armour.

No offence meant to anyone.

Fei Dao 说:

retail =/= final.

I'm pretty sure at least some of you have bought a PC game only to find out there's already a bug-fixing patch out for it.

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Heh, indeed, I have even bought PC games where there were NO further patches for it (though they were sorely needed). A largely bug free game is almost unheard of these days. I assume the siege system has been updated? Always a major bugfest when new things are added to a game.

Red River 说:

Nordmann 说:

I'd hold out on the TaleWorlds version personally, D2D games always seem to be troublesome, lord knows why.

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I have at least 3 games from D2D and don't know whatchya talkin' 'bout...

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I have bought 4 games from d2d, and the last game was enough for me. The patch was not compatible with my version, the dev said they would make one...now, years later, no patch. Had to hunt around for a bargain bin copy and am finally able to use the patch and mods.

I have heard this happening with a few other games too. Not many to be sure, but the possibility that the one I buy again has this happen is enough for me to steer clear.

I know it will be asked, so the game was Temple of Elemental Evil.

buzbybadman 说:

Direct x9 is indeed 80MB to download on its own, but are you sure?

Think you're probably right myself though

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Makes sense. Virtually every game has it packed in these days. "Do you wish to install Direct X?"

It is a tad funny that nothing has come to light yet. I came on here thinking maybe an official message would be posted by now, or some such thing.

Jlgx50 说:

it's only available to download the game if you pay for it from eather GamersGate or Direct2Drive, or a real life store like EB games

the reason Armagan doesn't want to release it here yet is because it will be free to download, which mean it will be easy-er for people to pirate the game

at least having to buy  the final version enclines the buyer not to pirate the thing because they actually payed for it 

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I already paid for it many years ago.

I have a key that allows me to activate the full version, this was paid for as I assume it would be the case for anyone who purchased it here. Can I then download the game at one of these other venues and just use my key?

It is already available for download?

Then where is the download here? I thought the only reason the wait was on was because of the boxed copies? A more cynical person than I might think they were hoping many of the community without patience would break and pay again for a download.

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Ringwraith #5 说:

He deserves all the flak he's getting.

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Honestly? How ungrateful can you be? Do you realize that the only income this game was making was from a small number of online sales at a reduced price? What you've said is a shame to all members of this community. We've supported this small, indepedent development, some of us for years, some only for days, and you manage to do nothing but criticise when the biggest moment in this game's development comes around. What would Armagan think, if he logged in to the forums, went in to this topic, and read your post? After the years of his Ipek's work, and the others in the small development team, what would be going through their minds as they read your stupid post? To be doing something you love for years and years, and then to finally show it to the world, and then all you get is some nitwit jackoff who can't even support the people who made the game he plays...

You're a disgrace.

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Hmm, if I were Armagan I would probably think "Wow, my fans are so keen to get their hands on what I have made...Unbelievable!" and would then apologise for the slip-up regarding the lack of communication as to what is happening.

I tend to agree that it really isn't a big deal at the end of the day, however, the fact that people are so angry, etc, is more due to the fact that they love the game rather than anything evil and personal. In a way, the vitriol is a childish emotional outburst and can be seen as a compliment more than an insult.

If you had made Mount and Blade, would you prefer everyone not caring that the game wasn't released on time? Would it be better for you if everyone just said "ho hum, it will be out one day" and went back to doing something else? I would much prefer the current outbursts that show many people are tragic about getting hold of the game than silence and apathy. Besides, most of the ranters are probably very young. Would you get insulted by a kid whinging about this to your face?  I truely hope you wouldn't. As far as I can see, you are the only person who has made a personal attack at this moment.

The lack of communication is rather silly though, especially when he should know how rabid some of his fans are. A blessing and a curse.

Devi 说:

The way I see it if the game was available for download now it would totally screw the European retail.

Not that I like waiting, but I understand.

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Europeans cannot order something online? Poor fellows.

Edit: I just realised that The Witcher enhanced will be ready for download on the 19th as well. I only have one computer to download with. Hmmm.

Excellent. Thank you Vilhjalmr.

Regardless of what I think of Ringwraith #5's stance on things, I cannot fault the way he argued them.

And, in his defence, it was I who wanted more development for MnB. He merely pulled at the comment of naval mechanics not being implemented and went from there, he didn't actually ask for anything to be done.

The game will be out soon. No use wasting any more time arguing for this or that.

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Janus 说:

For that reason, I have a great deal of trouble relating to either the people who say "it's done already?" or particularly those who further complain that since he hasn't added in x feature or y feature suggested by the community then he's just ignoring his fan base (or similar crap).

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Well get used to them they seem to be on a rise.


Here is my top 3 quotes:

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it appers to all intents and purposes that our great hero has sold out...   

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Directed at Armagan because he wont release a beta before 1.0.

Zathan 说:

Moderators and dev team affiliates alike, please take notice.
Ignoring your fanbase is a very bad move.

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astat 说:

everybody seems so happy about the increasing commercial success of m&b. i think i'm not - with the mainstream hopping up, you'll experience a rise in threads like this..

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Poor him 

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The first two quotes are, quite obviously, absurd.

The last quote has a ring of truth to it, though probably from a direction that you have not considered. The real strength of Mount and Blade has been the fact it was small. No publishers giving orders, no marketing executives cutting content they believe would not sell.

I can assure you that Mount and Blade would never have been made if not for the fact that Armagan and Ipek were alone to start the venture. Even if the idea was given a tick, the timeline to complete the game would have created a mess, as all of us have seen with many, many promising game ideas in the past.

Is it better that Mount and Blade 2 will be in development? Quite possibly. There is also the possibility that, with a publisher, and the inevitable cry from said publisher for "Better Graphics!!" the game will be rushed out, perhaps with even less features, but better graphics. I am sure we can all agree that this has happened with many games before. See the gradual degradation of the Elder Scrolls series as a testament to this kind of thing. Other game franchises have gone a similar way, with few going in the opposite direction (More gameplay instead of a massive graphics overhaul and less 'meat on the bones').

In any case, this is all in the future and will unfold how it will. We have Mount and Blade now, to play and enjoy, and nothing can change that regardless of what happens to the franchise. As Vilhjalmr put it, with the modders at work, and I am truely in awe of many of their projects to date, the future for Mount and Blade is indeed glorious. Actually, I can hardly wait for what they will bring to the table.

Yes, your points are valid.

However, I was talking entirely from the buyers perspective. I am not Taleworlds, nor a company. I am in it for the game, so to speak.

Whisking it off to get money is good...for Armagan. It isn't the best option for me however. Personally I would have enjoyed seeing further refinements over a long time, rather than a "It's done! Time to grab the money and run" outlook. This would naturally (Hopefully, if it indeed works out) be the best option for Armagan et al. It is all a compromise between the buyer and the seller at the end of the day.

Buyer: would prefer more, obviously.

Seller: would prefer money, naturally.

Armagan has already stated that the game has paid for itself and then some, so the company wasn't in danger of falling over any time soon.

I was merely stating what I, as the gamer, would prefer, without taking into account the business side of things, since that is not my stake in the issue. All up, I am more than happy with what I got out of the deal for the price paid. I am certain that the modders will continue to take the game to higher levels afterwards.

Mount and Blade is a very fun pastime and one that I continually go back to at different periods.

It is a pity that the gravy train had to end though. I believe that much more could have been done with the engine, especially when it comes to padded out gameplay and a good plot, politics, etc. Signing up with a publisher obivously creates a timetable though, so I knew that this would not be the case. The modders will take up much of the slack I am sure, and I am very thankful for that.

Still, my $12 was well spent, and as someone else here stated, the game does what it does better than anything else that has come before it, and something that I hope Taleworlds and other developers take into account and attempt to improve upon in the future.