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ancalimon 说:

Bromden 说:

Going back some posts, how do the Native Americans come into this picture?

They were mostly banished people. The organization I talked about went there in order to check any traces of Tur culture and once found they eradicated all of them by calling their army who were converted Turks themselves in reality.

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Is this the same "organization" that eradicated the Turkic colonies on mars?

ancalimon 说:

Bromden 说:

How could the Christhians and the Islamists work together in a grand scheme against Turks while they hated each other pretty much from the beginning?

They LOVED each other. They still do not hate each other. They have a nice thing going on. A bitter-sweet relationship. They always worked together and they still are working together to make people kill each other for their amusement. Who they hate (the Neo-Christians; those that destroyed Christianity and Judaism) is Hanefi people : the incorruptible people. Those that can not be turned into slaves.

Actually popes did not hate Muslims at all. And they did not confuse Turkness with Islam either. They really hated only Turks. Neo-Islam was just another sect of Neo-Christianity (or Puppety ~ "Pope ety") they created for fun.

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So the crusades was just fun times, eh?

ancalimon 说:

Bromden 说:

What was so horrible in the Turkic ways that it must have been eradicated without leaving a molecule of proof?

I can not answer this question because what is beautiful and pure becomes horrible and contaminated at the hand of wrong hands.

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ancalimon 说:

Bromden 说:

Were those deers and birds false prophets?

They were not prophets. They ware saints. The Ascended AsKuru. They called themselves as ASIR~ ASIZ (singular: AS || plural: ASLAR ~ ASAR). (just like the OQ people called themselves as OGUR, OGUZ) They were like the scientists of their time. More productive that those in our times of course. Here is tomb of one of those:

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So, there's a bird buried in there? 

ancalimon 说:

Bromden 说:

Why do I feel that all that typing and thinking I did was in vain?

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Bromden, this man will steal your sanity.

TitanToe 说:

:O I see a Gule!

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Wait what?! :O So you're the creepy little guy sneaking around outside my window!

Úlfheðinn 说:

I though they were a married couple living in Holland?

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Does the one neccesarly exclude the other?

Granted it's been a while since I played (a year or two ) but I was well aquinted with the IG when it was first formed and have faced them several times on the battlefield. I don't remember you specifically but the IG has always had high standards so I'm betting you're a skilled player and a decent guy/gal!

mikkel the great 说:

Ordsprog og andre vittigheder hjælper jo ingen. Vi har alle hørt den samme historie mange gange før. Jeg håber faktisk på en seriøs diskussion vedrørende livet her!

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Kärlek och gemenskap.

Det kan låta fånigt i vilsna personers öron men det är i alla fall min åsikt. Att få vara med den eller dom du älskar, och nu pratar jag både om vänskaplig och romantisk kärlek, är för mig det största. Jag skulle inte vilja vara ensam för allt guld i världen, ensamhet är något som jag har haft alldeles för mycket utav i mitt liv och tillslut så inser man att jobb, pengar, prylar etc. är inte värda ett skit så länge du är ensam. Min åsikt, den kommer inte att delas av alla, det finns ju enstöringar trots allt!

mikkel the great 说:

Jeg nægter at læse en svensk, norsk, dansk, engelsk eller nogen wiki side vedrørende efterlivet. Jeg spørger jer, ikke wikipedia. Er det så svært at forstå? Er i, mine venner, bange for at snakke om dette emne selv?

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Detta är ju det kanske största och svåraste ämnet att filosofera om och personligen vet jag inte helt säkert vad jag tror. Men en sak är säker i alla fall och det är att lika svårt som det är för mig att förstå hur universum kan vara oändligt så är det att förstå hur livet inte kan vara det. Jag kan omöjligt förlika mig med tanken på att det bara skulle bli svart och ta slut.

Så, vad anser jag då vara alternativet? Ja, som sagt så vet jag inte helt säkert vad jag tror och för det mesta så försöker jag att inte tänka allt för mycket kring det, men eftersom att allt materiellt i världen, hur stort eller lite det än är hela tiden går runt runt i ett stort kretslopp så känns det för mig ganska naturligt att även det mer abstrakta, som exempelvis vårt medvetande, också skulle göra det. Med andra ord så skulle man kunna säga att reinkarnation är den mest bekväma tanken för mig, men mista det inte för någon form av religiös reinkarnation som styrs av ens handlingar i livet, det spelar ingen roll hur mycket du stjäl, super, knullar etc. Kretsloppet är oundvikligt.

Ancalimon, I'm astonished that you did not manage to see the satire in my post. To clarify, my intention was to prove that science and history can be bent to fit any nationalistic purpose, and my example was indeed a very real one. The man behind these ideas was a swedish nobleman, scientist, professor and principal at Uppsala university in Sweden, a very qualified and respected man of his time. The only apparent difference between him and you is that you don't have those qualifications.



The problem with your theories is that they are flawed. I have no doubt that you have knowledge of etymological research, it is quite obvious that you do. However, the way you research languages follows a method that was deemed wrong already in the 19th century. Just because certain words in a different language are etymologically related to words in your language, doesn't mean they originated there. Is it not true that you can also compare turkic vocabulary to older languages and find related words even there?


Finally, we have the issue of sources. As is perfectly illustrated through the source to my previous post, even works by a university principal can be completely wrong and maybe even damaging. You, can't even cite works with legitimate authors. Adjiev Murad Eskenderovich who you love to cite does by his own account have a Ph.D in geography, NOT linguistics. In fact, he doesn't claim to have a degree of any kind on the subject.

I believe that was all the points I wanted to make for now.

The more obvious explanation for the origins of the word "hestkuk/hästkuk" lies in the discovery made by swedish scientists more than 350 years ago. They concluded that sweden was in fact the lost kingdom of atlantis, and its inhabitants the first men (know as atlanteans). When atlantis sank, the inhabitants fled to the present day swedish province of west gothia, which quickly became overpopulated.

Because of this overpopulation, the people had to emigrate. These people, who later came to be known as goths (named after the above mentioned swedish province), spread out across europe settling new land and forming new kingdoms. Thus, sweden is the cradle of both mankind and civilization. It should be noted that this discovery later gained strong support from the leading scientists of Nazi germany, so it is clearly legit. With this legit and absolutely true history in mind, it is not difficult to see why so many germanic, slavic and latin etc. words can also be found in turkic languages. Eventually the settlers reached as far away regions as turkey, and with them they brought all the knowledge and customs of their ancestral lands.

I do hope that these facts can bring some clarity to this fascinating debate. 


In case anyone is interested in further reading, this is the book:

Well, we all know that making fun of americans is a widespread and popular sport in europe, but there's a fine line between joke and insult.


Also, I don't understand why people are proud to show off their bad conduct on forums, I was warned once for a silly but harmless misdeed, lesson learned.

Var och en lär ju ha sitt språk, och engelska blir det naturliga lingua franca.

Úlfheðinn 说:

Deutsch ist ganz gut und man kann lange wörter machen.

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Uppslagsordsuppfinningsmaskinsfabriken

Svenskan är inte så dum den heller!

Dealen 说:

Úlfheðinn 说:

Det finns inte så många activa svenskar, så jag tror att det här forumet är tillräkligt. 

Och till sist, värför skulle vi behöva flytta till Flashback?

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Tror nog att du antog det där fel,

Mena om folk skulle vilja vara här eller hos flashback

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Uhm, jag förstår fortfarande inte riktigt vad du menar? Det ena utesluter ju inte det andra, Taleworlds och Flashback är ju två helt olika forum. 

Haha, det är nästan skrämmande vad träffande alla är, utom möjligtvis lättölen, det är omöjligt att bli full på den



En skandinavisk union lever i mina drömmar också.

mikkel the great 说:

Jeg vil nå sige nork, hvis noget. Svensk og Norsk er kommet af dansk, norsk ligner mest dansk, og det ligner også til en vis grad svensk. men militær overmagt burde nok være den afgørende faktor.

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Jag tycker det är fel att säga att svenska och norska är sprunget ur danska, det är lite mer komplicerat än så.

Det är dock sant att många viktiga språkförändringar har kommit till Skandinavien via Danmark och det danska skriftspråket har förstås haft stora influenser på det svenska skriftspråket. På tal om skriftspråk så är ju förvisso det norska bokmål direkt sprunget ur danska skriftspråket, så där stämmer ditt påstående. Å andra sidan har norskt och svenskt både tal- och skriftspråk bevarat en del unika särdrag som exempelvis "tjocka- L" (talspråket), som dessvärre försvunnit i danskan.

mikkel the great 说:

engelsk er lettere end svensk

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Ja, i alla fall när trådskaparen (liksom flera andra) skriver som en kratta.

Miauwww

Edit: Damn, I'm still an old man..

matmannen 说:

Gule 说:

matmannen 说:

Why does everyone assume the rest of the european countries is the same as sweden. Fact is, during the time, in which the mod is depicted, several reformations was made in the swedish army which made it deffer highly from the rest of europe.

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Such as what? Still using the old pike infantry? Question still remains, what would it bring to the gameplay?

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Seriously that's like saying that the zeprozhians shouldn't be in the mod because the also use cavalry with lances just like poland, both have cavalry with lances, pikes and muskets it's the same.

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No. It's like saying that we don't need yet another faction that have "cavalry with lances, pikes and muskets".

matmannen 说:

Why does everyone assume the rest of the european countries is the same as sweden. Fact is, during the time, in which the mod is depicted, several reformations was made in the swedish army which made it deffer highly from the rest of europe.

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Such as what? Still using the old pike infantry? Question still remains, what would it bring to the gameplay?

I'm asking myself the question, what would adding three, four new versions of the Swedish faction (which essentially is what the suggested factions would be) bring to the game? Isn't it better then to focus the modding effort to improve on the mod we already have?

Kära vänner!

Ever since September 2009 I've been upholding the Einherjar values under the name Einherjar_Gule. I have never been a very skilled player, and maybe that's just the reason why I've always felt welcome in this clan.

Now, I know I haven't really participated that much in any clan battles as of late, and thus can't say much of the attitude towards the scoreboard, but every time I log on to our TeamSpeak server, I still feel that same warm, welcoming feeling I felt the very first time. Friends have come and gone, and some of you I miss very much, but to me the spirit and the values are still hanging on.

Whether this clan lives on or not, I will always be Einherjar_Gule, and I will keep honoring our values of joyful friendly competition, and viking awesomeness on the servers, even if that makes me a dinosaur.

I hope that friends may one day reunite, and that in the future we can keep enjoying many nights of battling, sieging, laughing and drinking together!

För evigt tacksam

Gustav/Gule

 

I would like to join the raiding of Kent, raiding side of course.

Ancalimon, I can't say I get what you're saying. Are you saying that you mainly use your intuition to research the etymology of a word? Which in other words is no better than a wild guess. Also, do you have any sort of linguistic education? Do you know the first thing about language reconstruction? You can't just take a take a word out of some Turkic dictionary and assume that it's related to an english word just because it looks or sounds the same. Bottom for example does not originate from anything that has to do with sinking, just because "bottom" is connected to the seafloor today doesn't mean it has always been, in fact, it originally has the meaning of "ground" as in the mass you have under your feet. The bottom of the sea is just the ground that is underneath the water. Unless you can present trustworthy sources for your assumptions, or an education that makes you qualified to make such assumptions yourself, your words have no ground to stand on and must therefore be dismissed as nothing but wild guesswork.