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The effort is veiled to deflect criticism because there is hardly any resources or effort at all being devoted. That's the only plausible reason for the length of time these things take them. Unless you factor in lack of devotion, or work ethic. Perhaps even a lack of understanding how to bring projects to a successful conclusion, rather than a "good enough" half completed state.

Utter ineptitude in other words; I choose to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Sg15fan 说:

Or lack thereof.

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Or total lack thereof.

Foryourinfo123 说:

Any ideas?

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Because literally everything they do is half effort and poorly implemented with no hope of later correction or improvement. The company culture at large is rather inept and lazy.

mujadaddy 说:

I hear you. Not saying it's AAA.

I am the opposite, though. I never do EA. I didn't get M&B because I never do EA. But Viking Conquest... it made me say "Oh, I'm definitely giving these insane geniuses some more money"

It's not perfect. My expectations however, have been met 5 times over

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I am the opposite to your opposite. Bannerlord has made me say: I will never again give them money.

Starlord 说:

Don't worry about those losers, trolling these threads is their only joy in life. They're living in their own reality where they think people agree with their idiotic opinions. Grammar troll above is out here jerking off to good grammar so I had to give him all the there homonyms in one comment so he could finish and lighten the f up. Stupid people have stupid opinions but talewords clearly not listening to Royonprobation1012 so why should we?

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All I want for Christmas is more Kleenex and lotion.

Oh, and a thesaurus.

Phantom425 说:

Good point, might be a good time to never visit this forum for a year

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five bucks 说:

So is 1.0.3 actually going to fix some of the bigger problems facing the game?

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We will know next year, but my prediction is:

No.

Apocal 说:

You know Armagan still runs the company, right?

Dunno why people keep blaming out of touch executives or other corporate types when the guy who made the original runs the company and still apparently codes a bunch of ****.

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I do know who he is, and that he is still purportedly involved. As to what level of hands on I couldn't speculate, but I'd still call it a crisis of leadership.

I suppose I could / should have said from the "Ownership level" or "Very highest level" or some such.

It seems it really is true you can't catch lightning in a bottle, or go home again. So much for the sophomore effort.

I stand corrected.

Flesson19 说:

Remember everyone we will get to it Soon™ but for right now............... Working As Intended™

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Rather sad to watch Taleworlds turn someone who was an enthusiastic supporter (to the point of creating a YouTube channel dedicated to their game) into more and more of a disappointed cynic here on the forums.

During this whole development process I'd argue there's one thing they have done exceedingly well:

Turn former enthusiasts into dissatisfied, disgruntled, critics.

I would boil it down to some group in the company is clearly incompetent. I don't know if it's unskilled QA, out of their depth Developers, incompetent Middle Management, or a crisis of leadership from the very top C level down, handcuffing those at lower levels. Whatever it is, I'd argue the only real "fix" is a complete tear down, new talent search, and rethink of how projects are handled. I say this not out of vitriol or malice, but with an eye to improvement as a former enthusiast. I know it certainly doesn't sound pleasant, but: "The truth is a bitter pill, that few men dare to swallow." as one of my mentors used to say.

Lastly, before anyone lambasts me for being mean, rude, or unfair. Please try to remember that this is a company that has made millions off their product. A product that is largley unsatisfactory I'd say. I'm not trying to attack individuals as people, I am trying to offer what I feel is constructive criticism to professionals, as a customer.

Retrobarbaari 说:

I would not play this game without mods.

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Interestingly me neither. I currently use 68 mods (none that you have listed) and am really eagerly awaiting Banner Kings update.
What's even more interesting to me is that none of your mods really have much effect on the things I consider to be either broken or make the vanilla nigh unplayable. Really goes to show how tastes differ.

Edit - Correction, I do use Improved Garrisons.

froggyluv 说:

Pretty neat just checked out their feature list -impressive !

-12TH- mod for Mount & Blade: Warband

the story of the historical mod dates from 1135,when the Asian-Europe continent was at war The 12th century, one subtle turning point. The continent was in an extraordinary turmoil that no one had ever seen, in which all forces were to experience changes...

www.moddb.com

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Garrison Do Something - Does something similar without the restriction of not letting you traverse the area.

Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James 说:

Bannerlord is a mainstream game though. It was one of the best selling games of 2020.

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I think the point he was trying to make is that Mount and Blade was up to this point rather niche. The question then becomes will they be able to remain mainstream after all the horrific missteps from long term fans perspectives?

I think unfortunately they will.

Sad.

A few minor quibbles if I may...

Starlord 说:

They do actively try to fix things.

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Actively?!?! Yes true, if you compare the levels of activity to that of snails and sloths. Very active, I assure you.

Starlord 说:

And it might get better if people, especially on consoles, voice they're opinions and push for a better experience.

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It's rather poor form to start a sentence with the word And, to say nothing of the use of they're --- their.

Reading this post is like the console version of English. I suggest, you actively try to fix things. I pray you do a better job than Taleworlds.

kreamy 说:

this isnt a beta.. its a bug fix patch

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It gets even better when you realize the holidays are coming so they will most likely go radio silent for a month and a half without any indication. This is what we can enjoy post "release". Forget the idea of communication when to expect any proper fixes for major known bugs present at release, as well as no info on purported features yet to be added.

Happy holidays warriors of Calradia!

Watching this guys project

is both more fun, and nuanced that Bannerlord's endgame.


I may be exaggerating... but only slightly.

Webbwulf 说:

There are several games that have mods on console.

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Taleworlds has not done anything well when it comes to implementing features so far, what makes you think they will reverse that trend on console?

Bjorn The Upset 说:

according to Armagan bc he had already said that BL will offer such an experience that the players feel like they are in Game of Thrones

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Maybe he meant the disastrous way the show ended?

Tiberius Decimus Maximus 说:

I'm pretty sure the majority of TW is working on their space game.

Awhile back, they confirmed that they were doing a sci-fi game.

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Too late, it's already here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2316751071

Just more lazy, bad practices.