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Gibby Jr 说:

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This is our only comment.

Yaaaaaaaas KING!!!!

Mandingo 说:

Fietta 说:

get your dirty senate friends off this thread!

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be quiet mumps boy

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EWWWWWWWW

The Taste!

Looks betta with no Fietta 

I hope to see Jurgen and his shop brothers!

Im with Jurgen.

#standwithjurgen

Name:Angola_Merkel
Steam:https://steamcommunity.com/id/Alexius46/
ID:1781958
Region:Angola
Class:Pige

Makes me real happy to see such wholesomeness from these beautiful men.

For those of a less wholesome heart (Fiett), if you can't win while trolling, don't troll at all- you got what you deserved, stop whining.

lol

Well, I would hope it is believable/ credible, given that you are clearly now aware that I am not a neo-nazi, so you've made a bit of a judgement error there. If you look at my original response to you, you will see that I sited the image and the community even at the earliest stage - its factually incorrect to say that my argument has shifted in this regard.

I'm not suggesting that I am, or should be, free from criticism. The options that you posed, to begin with, were: you are either a nazi or an idiot. Funnily enough, I didn't want to identify as either of those. The crux of the entire debate has been the neo-nazi issue. Once again, it appears that you've now finally accepted I'm not, so I would argue that I should be free from the same criticism owed to neo-nazis (which previously I was not). If you want to criticise me for being anti-PC then go for it. If I recall history correctly, the Nazis did like controlling speech, so if you're a fan of that and I'm not then hey, people have different ideas, some are "just a coincidence" is suppose. Yes, I share a very faint view with clown world, but most of the left shares some faint views with Hitler directly, so I don't really feel that we are in a position to judge each other here. You're not a Nazi, so neither am I.               

I apologise for telling you that you don't have any understanding of my political views; I was blissfully unaware that they were in fact shared with you in some detail. To be picky, I would class myself as a Minarchist, not Anarcho-capitalist (not that there is a huge difference, but I do believe some state should exist). If it's gonna be posted on a forum, I may as well make sure it's accurate. I don't quite see how this supports your interpretation though? If its the interpretation of me as a Nazi, then I'd argue that it's just about as far away from support as you can get. If its your interpretation of me as someone that is anti-PC then yeah, fair enough. Obviously, you are very differently politically inclined and If you have any issues with my belief existing (as many of the increasingly intolerant left do) then feel free to hmu and I'll happily discuss it. I think at this point however the point of the forum argument ends.

We have all clearly come to accept that myself and my mixed-race teammate (African btw) are not neo-nazis and that your entire argument was thus incorrect. I'm sure that people will still disagree about the decision to use the avatars we are choosing to use at the moment but that's cool. People disagree about a lot of things, things with much bigger world consequences. Ty OGL this has been good procrastination for me. 

PS. Sorry for calling you a spoon, I don't know what came over me, I consider myself a man a relative civilisation but that, that was just barbaric, no man should have to endure that. I truly wish I could take it back. I truly do.

OurGloriousLeader 说:

Your explanations are utterly mundane, it's just that it leads to you looking like an idiot. "Yeah, I knew this stuff was connected to bad stuff, but I don't believe in it so when I put it up everywhere, even though I know that will cause assumptions, I'm beyond any connection." It's just a modern version of:

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And of course, as a completely separate issue, not connected at all, you also have sympathies with the views that the clown world people espouse. But no that's not WHY you're displaying it - 'tis just a coincidence!

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This is just proving my point. The issue is people that can't understand the explanation. The only reason that any of what you said could hold true is if assumption insists connection (you're suggesting that: "even though I know that will cause assumptions, I'm beyond any connection." is an illogical statement). It doesn't. In this scenario, connection (or lack thereof) is a fact - myself and Mandingo are not connected to neo-nazis. People, however, are assuming we are. Normally the wonderful thing about assumptions is that when the truth is told, people lose their assumptions. You refuse to do that because clearly, you know more about our political views than we do. In fact, I think you're last sentence sums up your ignorance perfectly; prior to this debate we have had no discourse with one another about our respective political views (even within this debate very little about actual beliefs has been discussed - all that is clear is that I think people should be able to post what they find funny, even if the joke police don't), as a result you have no real insight into my political views and yet claim definitively that I'm politically sympathetic to the meme. You are a broken record and constantly correcting you is getting boring.

Yeah, that's sort of what I was trying to get at, I'm not surprised people assumed things to begin with, however, there are several people that are clearly engaged with the debate that are refusing to accept that, it's these people that I am taking issue with. It's these people that I have been proving their stupidity by insisting the truthfulness of things that I (and only I can) know to be false. But ty DL, you seem to be one of the only people that has actually engaged brain. 

Can we clarify things here please bois. No one is denying that some neo-nazis use clown world memes. No one is denying that clown world has some neo-nazi connotations. The choice of avatars by myself and Mandingo are not from neo-nazi positions, but from one of enjoying the visual imagery combined with funny political debate that takes place between the left and right on various platforms. When M first asked about the Honk Honklers, he was given an answer, however from there different community members have tried to take the argument in all sorts of directions. I personally was not surprised that questions were asked about my avatar, but was not worried because I knew that I could explain my choice. Unfortunately, some people are incapable of understanding that explanation, perhaps for those people a slight amendment to DarkLight's analogy may be useful.

Angola Merkel wears a Real Madrid jersey, some guy on the street approaches Angola Merkel:

-"Ah mate, do you support Real or som'thin'?"

-"No not really, I don't watch much football but I just like the way the shirt makes my nipples look."

-"Ah thank god, I'm a Barca boi me, no worries bud, have a good one."

In this situation, the man has accepted Angola's response because no one knows what Angola is thinking, other than Angola.
Therefore I would suggest that people think a bit more carefully about the accusations they couch at certain avatar choices, given that they clearly have no insight into the thought processes behind the choosing of the avatars. The more that people insist that we are things that we KNOW we are not, the stupider they seem.

DarkLight, we are not going to explain that we don't care, instead, we have explained that we are using it for different reasons. Because of this, its not "flailing" around. You may not agree with our explanation, but that doesn't make it less true.

Not sure that would fit well on the shield.

No, I'm not going with your braindead dichotomy you spoon.

I've already told you why both of your conclusions are, in this case not true, do I need to do a paint by numbers for you?

OurGloriousLeader 说:

fact

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hmmmmm...... if you don't understand the connotations of calling something a fact, then I don't think I'm the idiot.

Im struggling to remember when it was up to other people to decide what I find funny. Yes, some neo-nazi bois may use it but they also ride the bus, so should we not get busses too? If we let neo-nazis chose what we can and can't do, based purely on the fact that stamp their name on something, then aren't we just giving them the power they want? I find the image and its surrounding community amusing, in the same way that I find crazy left-wing communities funny, therefore, I am going to use it as an avatar.

OurGloriousLeader 说:

It seems a bit of a lose-lose cos either you're using it as a cringe cover for even cringier beliefs that can be summed up as unironic Joker level "we live in a society" but for right wingers, or you just think it's a funny meme when it is, in fact, not funny, and also is a meme that is pretty much exclusively used by neo-nazis as you agree.

very epic

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I don't enjoy this joke, so it can't be funny.

Smart.

Gibby Jr 说:

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"Non-fren" here, why are several of your members' forum profiles decked out in neo nazi clown__world ****?

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The profiles that you refer to feature images that those individuals find funny, such as this one:

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There is nothing deeper or "neo nazi" about it.

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H0nK hONk