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Tork789 说:

Lol, warband fans were really asking for graphics and campaign foremost?

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Yeap, just browse the forum and other gaming sites a little.

Tork789 说:

I personally need just better combat system, rest is peripheral.

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Isn't the combat system a core component of the gameplay?

IMHO the 3 most needed things in M&B are CLANG's weapon control system, Chivalry:MW's teamwork focused objective-driven maps and even more people on an ongoing multiplayer campaign or at least an ArmA2 Warfare style mode

Einarinari 说:

You are just trying to make it look like that im just being impatient

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I don't have to - you are doing it pretty well yourself

Lord Cheesecake 说:

for XBOX and PS3 (if the rumors are true that they are releasing it for those systems)

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M&B system requirements are really low, and they could actually waste precious resourses on making sure M&B2 runs on the crappy vendor-locked PCs of M$ & $ony... but I bet they'll focus on things fans asked for - like graphics, campaign, gameplay & modding improvements.

Bold Count Graveth 说:

War of the Roses was a big disappointment, so I'm hoping MB2 will be a true next gen warband

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It's easy to get disappointed if you start with false expectations. WotR was never meant to be "a true next gen warband".

Einarinari 说:

Lets turn it another way around: What game do you think that it might be in that video?

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As I've said 3 times already: I (and anyone who has played M&B) think the game footage in that video is M&B2 in some development stage. But you are still missing the point and asking the wrong question. The right question is: what this video contains? (as in what it is about, what the interviewer and the interviewee talked about). And the answer to that question it's not - the official anouncement and game footage of M&B2.

Einarinari 说:

I dont like the way they are handling this ... that we should be perfectly happy with this kind of half-done announcements.

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Developers talking (as they have been doing for years now and recently on an interview on the other video) about working on a sequel and an official announcement with media coverage/concept arts/in-game screenshots/videos and approximate release dates are not the same thing.

Wait for the official announcement. Do I like waiting? Nope. Would I like one right now with all the above and a "pre-order now get into beta immediately"? Shut-up-and-take-my-money-will-finish-reading-the-announcement-while-it's-downloading! But do I really have to whine about "bad way of treating fans", because I bought their previous game so now they owe me? Nope - but apparently you do.

Einarinari 说:

they have said in a video clip that they are working on M&B2

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You mean you actually needed confirmation that they will not stop developing Armağan's dream project since school, their most successful and actually the only game series they have? 

Einarinari 说:

and we also have video footage of a game that CANNOT be anything else than M&B2

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Can you point me to the precise mins:seconds where anybody mentions M&B2 in that video? You know that video contains footage of M&B2 in development cos you have played M&B and want moar!naow! as do we all Be grateful for the fan-treat, smile, wink back or whatever.

Einarinari 说:

No official announcement in web page or anything, just those two video clips

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IMHO I suppose they didn't prepared anything official to show us just yet. Do I like that uncertainty? Nope. Do I have a real reason to get the self-righteous over-entitled whinny attitude on as if they actually promised something on multiple occasions but than silently/openly backed down? Nope.

Taleworlds delivered the best mod-friendly medieval combat game to date and added an amazing 200+ (let me know if you find any other action-packed game besides ArmA series that can achieve these awesome numbers) multiplayer to it waaay ahead of schedule (they said they will try to include the multiplayer in M&B2 not in an expansion a couple of years later) to have fun for many more years to come... could you have the decency to cut them some slack?

Einarinari 说:

there is an interview on the internet about them working on M&B2, but they just keep their mouths totally shut to the community, even tough they first agreed to share some images about M&B2 to somebody else during an interview. Its like first they gave these images of M&B2 being developed during an interview to somebody, and then afterwards they started to regret ever giving any info to anyone and just decided to forget that there ever was any interview with images about M&B2 in the first place.

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This again? Ok I'll try to put some emphasis maybe you guys get it this time:

Esthet 说:

That horse is out of the barn several year now - that's what I meant by "we don't need it". Anyone interested enough to browse this forum a little doesn't need a Captain Obvious type announcement "we are working on M&B2"... AFAIK the only media coverage is by a local non game related source about M&B and Armağan - not a word about sequel or number 2. To anyone that didn't play M&B - that's just it. You are getting all worked up because some fan got this insider joke/fan treat/leaked on purpose material and posted it in youtube as M&B 2 alpha . I'm sure there will be an announcement as soon as they prepare something to show.

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See/read subs for yourselves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyrapuOLwjU&context=C3b9f802ADOEgsToPDskKvWHCosDsA40d3P1AfafJL

Swyter 说:

After seeing news, videos and info leaks all over the place...

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This thread seams very appropriate to share all that... links please?

HardCode 说:

M&B was more fun before the focus on multiplayer.

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As in, more unbalanced-god-mode-like (AI doesn't whine if the weapons/armors/skills you use are OP  ) gameplay with dumb bots (not a critique BTW, bots will never be as smart/interesting opponents as humans in the foreseeable future). I'll take more fun/original fights with human players any day over that

Possible solution:
1) uninstall Warband installed by Impulse
2) download & install Warband from Taleworlds servers & activate using the serial from Impulse
3) add installed Warband to Steam (I don't use Steam since I got Impulse years ago so don't remember if it just creates a shortcut to the game or does more than that)
4) see if you can install NW
5) contact Steam Support and ask for a solution if that fails

IMHO a better solution: just buy NW from a less restrictive distributor -  it's only 10$ and that's a really great fun/price ratio. At least for me - see some reviews/let's play videos to find out if it will for you.

grossart 说:

[There is however a game coming out in september (published by paradox) that resembles a lot m&b with better graphics. Some have even said it to be a clone of the game...

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...in the same way that Dragon Rising and Red River are clones of the ArmA series

If the Fatshark guys (or anybody else for that matter) deliver an AMAZINGLY FUN 200+ multiplayer game with stuff like - chambers, crush/pierce through, pickable missiles, horse bumping/rearing, maps customized & loaded on connect for sieges, duels... and at least half of Warband's mod friendliness (and a sandbox single player campaign mode just as a little bonus) - let me know

Caba`drin 说:

Unfortunately, you are likely stuck due to Steam (and Impulse to a degree, both are of the more restrictive variety of distribution outlets).
As for activating products on Steam, whether a 4x4 key will work depends on the source of that key, mostly and for whatever reason, Steam doesn't have keys distributed by Impulse in its system as legitimate.

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Nope - steam is the only one to blame here. Steam generates its own serials apart form being an always on overlay with lots of annoying restrictions like asking for codes sent to your mail every time you router changes the IP... while Impulse (or GameStop App as they named it after buying it from Stardock) uses the games' original serials and you need to launch it only to install/upgrade your bought software. You can even download and install Warband from Taleworld's servers and activate using the serial form Impulse. Try to get Steam to recognize Warband's Impulse(Taleworlds) serial and then install NW - ask Steam Support if needed.

Revan Shan 说:

That was in fact what I expected from MaB Warband, and I became very disapointed when I saw it wasn't like that.

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We all hoped they could pull that off, but disappointed? Right, because there are so many other games that have multiplayer campaigns with AI factions leaders, lords, warbands, caravans, bandits fighting each other, razing villages, organizing sieges, tournaments and fests in real time while having several multiplayer battles that begin and end at different times in different maps. Can you post the links to those games?

Einarinari 说:

Excuse me, I didnt want to understand what?

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Einarinari 说:

I really cant understand why they wont just give us the offical announcement

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But seeing you either aren't interested in an answer to that question, or you're too stubborn/<insert your reason here> to accept my answers above - I'm done wasting time posting off-topic

dude, chill out - you didn't say anything offensive in this thread

Einarinari 说:

I must admit that absolutely anything you have said, hasnt changed my mind at all about this being just a poor media / fan handling. That’s pretty much the  case here no matter how you look at it, I mean somebody might be ok with this kind of behavior from the publisher, but it really doesn’t change how things really are.

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Then you didn't really wanted to understand - you wanted to rant about it. Try doing it at their publisher - Paradox

Einarinari 说:

If they aren’t ready to give us any information about anything, then I think they should of kept their mouth shut and not say anything in the first place...

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That horse is out of the barn several year now - that's what I meant by "we don't need it". Anyone interested enough to browse this forum a little doesn't need a Captain Obvious type announcement "we are working on M&B2".

Einarinari 说:

...until they have something to talk about that is.

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AFAIK the only media coverage is by a local non game related source about M&B and Armağan - not a word about sequel or number 2. To anyone that didn't play M&B - that's just it. You are getting all worked up because some fan got this insider joke/fan treat/leaked on purpose material and posted it in youtube as M&B 2 alpha . I'm sure there will be an announcement as soon as they prepare something to show.

Einarinari 说:

I cant speak for everyone else here (btw in pretty sure neither cant you) ... By no means was this post directed as an offence to you or anyone else, im just voicing my opinion here.

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None taken. Except official representatives everybody just shares his Point Of View.  We may as well always start all sentences with IMHO (though some people think they always should start with This Is The Only Valid Opinion aka The Ultimate Truth )

Einarinari 说:

I really cant understand why they wont just give us the offical announcement.

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Because we don't need it. Warband is awesome but still just an upgrade/expansion of the original and With Fire & Sword is a modification they agreed to part take in, a joint operation if you will, with other developers. M&B 2 is the only project that we know they are working on, and we knew that they will - since the beta of the original M&B

I'm fine with the lack of media/press releases - anyone that could be interested in M&B 2 has already bought Warband and knows what to expect, the ones on the fence will have to wait for reviews/let's plays anyway. The only announcement I'm waiting for is: pre-order and/or enter beta NOW!

Bobthehero 说:

half life, starcraft and homm III

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How many "good enough" clones of those games can you name in just one minute? Can you name at least one "anything remotely like the M&B series" at all?... 4 years later only Taleworlds is bringing us this kind of fun - that's why the exitement.

Even if they advance by small steps (face it guys - we are spoiled rotten and we will be crying MOAR! no matter what they deliver ) I bet they will be in the right direction. If not, well... my time playing Warband is already longer than all other games I ever played combined, so if anyone else gets disappointed with M&B 2 - find me on the Warband servers having fun

Ammo in quivers only partially fixed in .580

Javelin/Darts - fixed
Bolts - broken
Arrows - ignored (added the bug tag to be more easy to find )

See 1st post for details

Adorno 说:

The siege is well suited for many players I think

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Agree. The fun of playing CTF and specially Conquest and Siege modes grows with the number of players (high skill & good tactics are welcomed too but player count is essential) because they are not just massive killfest like DM/TeamDM or to boring to wait till one team is totally exterminated in Battle mode (btw, it needs a reasonable time limit - the team with less casualties wins, loosing survivors - count as retreated from battle) but they are objective-oriented modes - we need more of them see what Age of Chivalry has in almost all their maps.

And this is the best time to try to stress test the network code... but its not as easy as change a limit number, recompile and test. So right now just be glad they've doubled the limit of most multiplayer games and make sure they notice our interest in expanding it further by connecting to high populated servers.

Archonsod 说:

Wouldn't be much point to be honest. Apart from Server 8 it's rare the 32 player servers get filled up, let alone the 64 player ones.

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Lets just wait for release and some popular mods and see if when you change your mind

Follow the link, read... and then remember that M&B has heavier physics (damage by speed and such), "non-laser" ballistics, pick-able missiles, bots with commands and formations, the best mount and blade (as in melee) combat around. A server farm hosted game over a gigabit LAN could do the trick - but don't expect it over internet anytime soon.