Majhudeen 说:
Where, and who does it say Gilgamesh was referred as Bilgamesh?
There are countless sources about this just search the Internet for Bilgamesh, Bilgamish, Bılgamış, Bilgamış, Bilgemiş, Bilgemish, Bilgeymiş.
Gilgamesh (/ˈgɪl.gə.meʃ/, Akkadian cuneiform:Gilgameš, also known as Bilgames in the earliest text)[1]
Well since they are not Indo European or Semitic. The only other options is Turanic. Besides every evidence points towards Turanic origin linguistically and thus genetically. What I say is that all Turanic people are descendents of OQ people later OQHUZ and OQHUR people.
It's not hard to find the connections. They mix up things. I find what they mixed up. For example When a Scyth says "we believe in AtamızOğuz" and some other person understands it as "We worship Father Zeus" history gets mixed up.
Another person probably heard the word ATAM and called it ADAM: the first human. Bah.
The word Turan is not only seen in the old word. Among native Haitians the word Turan meant "the race from sky"
Quabec consisted of two words and they were known as KU (sacred) - BA (father) among natives. Both have the same meaning in Turkic. (quatre lattres sur le Mariquee - pages: 228, 329)
Eктωρ 说:
Ancalimon, isn't it just plain obvious that the "Allah Allah" thing is because of the islamism on turkish society?
I mean, people here in the west say things like "OH MY ******** GOD" when something like that happens.
"Oh la la" is just a vocalization, like when we understand something suddenly and say "Aaah!"
And does Portuguese has something like that? No. You know why? Cause we are not muslim, in fact, there is a history os islamophoby in Portugal, even if our language is permeated by arab terms, like, lemme see... Azeitona (Olive), Alfarje (Ceiling), Almofada (Cushion).
Does it means that the portuguese people are arabs? No.
We are talking about entirely different subjects. I talk about how some kind of "reiterative" or "name of a God" which should belong strictly to a language can be rooted back to a basic ProtoTurkic word "AL - ALA" and can be perfectly related in harmony with the usage of that word in different languages. You talk about borrowed words. I'm not talking about borrowed words. I'm talking about lost source of human speech. I no longer care about who borrowed which word from whom at this point since that is now trivial for me. It wouldn't matter at all and I can't explain these things to you yet.
ALA: let me try to explain the logic behind it... For example Merlkir: You said ale means "but" in your language.
ALE means there is something but there is also another detail in that something. You use the "but" when you want to add another detail to your argument.
For example you say: The woman killed the man (everybody gets angry at the woman).. "BUT" the man tried to rape her. (magically and suddenly the guilty person becomes the man). You were saying something and your words showed the woman as the guilty person. Suddenly it seemed like you were going to try to deceive them by saying "but". What would make her right. Killing is wrong after all...
You simply make the connection between ProtoTurkic "Ala" and Czech "Ale". You find more connections of Czech or Turks to the rest of the world and it's simply evident. You just don't want to accept it right now, and I'm not that good at defending what I know either.
For example I talked about a LABARUM and the flag of Constantin which I showed before.
Proto-Turkic: *jala-
Altaic etymology: Altaic etymology
Meaning: 1 sacred band 2 flag 3 tie, strap
Russian meaning: 1 священная лента, веревочка, пучок волос (привязываемая к дереву или шаманской колотушке) 2 знамя, флаг 3 завязка, повязка
Tatar: jalaw (dial.) 2, jala 3
Middle Turkic: jalaw (Бор. Бад.) 2
Uzbek: jalɔw 2
Uighur: ǯala (dial.) 3
Sary-Yughur: ǯala 3
Turkmen: jalow (dial.) 2
Khakassian: čala(ŋ)ma 1, čalā 3
Shor: čala 3, čalaba 1
Oyrat: jalaɣa, d́alaɣa 3, jalama, d́alama 1
Yakut: salama 1
Tuva: čalā 3, čalama 1
Kirghiz: ǯalau 2
Kazakh: žalaw 2
Karakalpak: žalaw 2
Comments: ЭСТЯ 4, 99-100, VEWT 181. Turk. *jala-gu, *jala-ga and *jala-ma seem to be derived from a common root, thus it is most probable that Mong. ǯalama 'sacred strips' and ǯalaɣa 'tassel, thick silk thread' are borrowed from Turkic and not vice versa.
When you have necessary historical knowledge to know that ancestors of Kipchak (Kıpçak) were the Gobu, and when you know their relations with Hay people (today known as Armenian) and if you know that the first people to learn about Tengri knowledge, were the Hay people and though them the rest of Europe. You will simply understand why Contantin lived as a "pagan" but died as a Christian. The paganism at first was not Tengism at all but was called paganism although it was not paganism. After Constantin died, Christianity was no longer Tengrism but it was The Paganism although it was called Christianity.. The Kipchaks - Turs simply entered Europe and made it Turkic "once again" after thousands of years.
LABARUM: ALA BARUM ~ ALA BAYRAĞIM ~ ALA BARIM all of these are possible.
"WORDS ARE ALWAYS INERT". The only thing that changes are humans. Humans give new meanings to words. The always exist. If the meanings are related, this means humans are related. If the meanings are opposite, this means humans were enemies. If the meaning are both related and opposite as well, this means a people and their enemies had become one as they found a common ground to exist together.
Now
ALA meant "1 sacred band 2 flag 3 tie, strap" in Proto-Turkic.
TUĞ (pronounced similar to "dough ~ two") also meant "flag" and "soul of connection of
two people". Here we find a connection between the words "TWO and TUĞ" which is "the connection of two people" thus they create a family and have a TUĞ of their own. Their family know have a TUĞ.
Generally speaking the word ALA is something good in this context.
but maybe not? What is this? :
Proto-Turkic: *jAla
Altaic etymology: Altaic etymology
Meaning: 1 suspicion, false accusation 2 lie
Russian meaning: 1 подозрение, клевета 2 ложь
Old Turkic: jala 1 (OUygh.), jalɣan 2 (OUygh.)
Karakhanid: jala 1 (MK), jalɣan 2 (MK)
Turkish: jalan 2
Tatar: jala 1, jalɣan 2
Middle Turkic: jalɣan 2 (AH), jalqan 2 (MA)
Uzbek: jɔlɣɔn 2
Uighur: jalɣan 2
Azerbaidzhan: jalan 2
Turkmen: jalan 1,2
Oyrat: jala, d́ala 1
Kirghiz: ǯala 1, ǯalɣan 2
Kazakh: žala 1, žalɣan 2
Noghai: jala 1, jalɣan 2
Bashkir: jala 1, jalɣan 2
Balkar: ǯalɣan, žalɣan 2
Gagauz: jalan 2
Karaim: jalan, jalɣan 2
Karakalpak: žala 1, žalɣan 2
Salar: jalɣan 2
Kumyk: jalɣan 2
Comments: VEWT 181, 183, EDT 918-919, 926, ЭСТЯ 4, 87, 91-92. Turk. > Mong. jala (KW 214).
It suddenly became "1 suspicion, false accusation 2 lie" while it used to be "1 sacred band 2 flag 3 tie, strap"
Who falsely accused whom for doing what? Was it the Roman Turks accusing Kipchak Turks for doing something bad? Was it the opposite? Forget who killed or saved Christ. The important thing is: "Who is right?" The answer and the perfect solution is this:
:
Only Tengri is right. Yet some people chose another solution using the same shape but not bound by Tengri.
I hold the axe, thus I'm right. I have the power of the horde. I'm the rightful one.
The word meant bağlı, bağlılık : "we are forming an allegiance" "we are putting a brick on top of another one" (here we find the connection between POLIS - BALIQ - BAAL) and suddenly it also means "they cheated us, they are deceivers". When did it happen? How did this word turn into a LIE? Even more!: The word is also a name of God which Turks accept.
So how many meanings in Turkic does LABARUM ~ ALABARUM have which are
all related to what I find researching "deep" into history?
Labbrys is related to this in Turkic. Plus in a circle is related to the same thing in Turkic. Labarum is related to this in Turkic. Labyrinth is related to this in Turkic. Wheel, Cross (Khach, Chack), Chakra, Dhikr (male, the ability to remember), İnsan (human: the one who forgets) is related to this in Turkic. Hinduism and Islam are related to this in Turkic. It's so difficult to explain them all in the same context together. Because it is not about a time. It's about all known times and probably unknown ones as well.
Well.. It got complicated again
http://not-for-sheeples.blogcu.com/vatikan-ve-hristiyanlarin-bilmeden-gunese-ibadet-etmeleri/6704873
Look at the pictures here.
What I want to tell you is that someone made extreme fun of some people. This is the SUN. TAO SAN : TAVŞAN : RABBIT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabb
Easter Bunny : ISITIR BENİ (it warms me) or İYİ ISITIR BENİ (it warms me reeaaly good) - IŞITIR BENİ (it gives light to me, it makes me shine) - YAŞATIR BENİ (it makes me live) - Here is the answer to all your riddles.
When the Sun goes West, night comes and if you had a riddle for that I guess it would have been called: Western Bunny : ÜŞÜTÜR BENİ (it makes me cold) - ESİTİR BENİ (it makes winds blow on me)
Basically there was what you would today call paganism which gave great importance to the Sun and they called those people who said that there was a meaning to everything but it is not evident to human eyes as ATHEISTS. The thing is those Atheists: Tengriists gave the same importance to Sun as well.
The difference between an Atheist and a Tengriist is trivial. Atheists say "you only see a visible God, if you can not see it this means it doesn't exist. This is the labrys way". Tengriist say "God is the meaning and meaning is never evident and visible. Only what we make of it this is the way of symbiosis"
How were the Turkic horde captured? (I think horse<horde despite what others would think) They probably make them drink an oath. ANT (pronounced as HUNT without the breathing H sound) they poured their blood to a cup and drank it. This promise can never be broken unless the cup is broken. They are bound to whoever they gave their oath to.
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/29Huns/Zuev/ZuevEarly8En.htm