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Thank you all for answering so far.
Why I asked this specific questions is not of your concern, however, I may inform you that I brought Russias arsenal of Nuclear Weapons under my control.
I shall shortly wipe Quebec and Austria off the map, which is vital to my plan.

just in before close

Why does everything look like it's from India?
That is indeed a strange M&B conversion.

You have the story elements down pretty much, now we need a little bit of something actually happening.

Probably what we all know.

I played pretty much since release and the first time going up against a war party... with your few units.
You are scared as ****, knights approach down in the valley.
**** KNIGHTS. I only have peasants and a sword. What now? START THROWING YOUR ROCKS GOD DAMN.
I have no arrows left.
They dismount. THEY ARE COMING.
**** **** ****.
Ok everyone hold pos.... HOLD IT.
God damn how many are there?
Ah **** it CHARGE

Also: Why do so many Japanese movies/games have German names like Elfen Lied (said in this thread) or Ehrgeiz or countless others?
Maybe somebody from Japan can elaborate?

I have seem some decent ideas in anime.
To be precise there are a lot of world with much potential. Like in this one music video trance style, where they had scenes from some anime movie (some years ago, forgot what it was. Vedome Project or someting. I'd really like to see that movie)

But most of the time the usual Anime "qualities" shine through: People looking at each others for 10000 hours, constantly flying in the air etc. and everything turns to ****.

All in all Anime sucks.

First: The map seems odd.
Are you sure the represented country is accurate to that time?
Looks like there are some mistakes

Second: To my knowledge the Muslimes had the heavy cavalry, while the Crusaders did not. The Muslimic culture was simply much more advanced than the European at this time.
You'd need to fix that.

Once again, I am well aware of Swedens advantages in fielding soldiers that did not fight for money.
However, as the history shows us in this very war, Russia was superior, Habsburg would have been GREATLY superior and I guess the Osmanic Empire would have kicked butt, too. I am not sure about Britain but throw them in for a good measure.

The "best" army does indeed include size of the army. Having the "best" army means I can conquer any country. Sweden was not able to do that and would not have been able to do that with countries listed above.

Sure, Poland positively big, but its army was weak.
Even Prussia, little as it was, had an superior army in terms of size.

Once again, discounting tactics and events, just by how the wars were fought at this time, in big armies and infantry division, it was important to outnumber the enemy.

Radier 说:

On November 20 1700, the Swedish force of 11,000 soldiers attacked the Russian army of more then 30,000 Russian soldiers in the battle of Narva. Despite the disadvantage of being outnumbered by the Russians, the Swedes won a splendid victory.

We where the best. Europe was scared of us. Ever heard the german proverb?

"Bet Kindschen, bet. Morgen kommt die Schwede."

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This is by the way not German.
Again, I highly doubt that the Swedes had any influence whatsoever anywhere except in the Northern Countries. It is hard to judge an army by the outcome of a battle, moreover you can see that Russia was able to field far more soldiers - an this was Russia - mind you.
1700 I would be more interested in Dutch, Spanish, British, French armies. Oh yeah, don't forget the Middle East.
Germany, Denmark and Russia are by God not the top notch enemies at this time. With Germany not even beeing a country and all


For this argument to be used with any historic validity, it needs to be absolutely proven and obvious.
This is not the case and simply sounds biased. Such a little thing makes me doubt the whole source.


While having luck with getting support from the Dutch and Britain (and thus winning the sea battle) the Swedish forces victories were against minor forces at that time - Denmark, Poland, German countries... The only main villain they fought was Russia - and Sweden lost badly - riding into battle outnumbered and getting killed.
11.000 lost Swedes verseus 1500 lost Russians.
Nice ratio there.

Then later Prussia joins the fight as maybe the only significant German force in the area and Sweden gets whipped again.

I think this is pretty clearly not the best army...
They walked over some parts of Europe in rather astounding fashion, but when they reached Russia the dream was pretty much over. While having no mercenaries has its advantages, beeing outnumbered every time simply doesn't work.

If you look at a map of this time, just by the size and population of the countries you can see that compared to Habsburg (Austria), Russia, France etc. Sweden was not superiour if not inferiour.
And they way battles went this time the size of the army counts.

how about giving enemies insanely low archery skills?
It wouldn't be grand, but at least you could have a decent firefight.

Thats a dubious site. "Sweden had the best army in Europe". While this is not only doubtful, the use of "omg best army" in this context would lead me to distrust this page.
I hope you doublecheck your info.

But yeah, the more mods M&B has, the better it gets.

I didnt want to **** on your cake aw, sorry for that.
Anyway, the best thing you can do in any lotr mod is to keep it realistic.

The feel itself needs to be realistic.
The desperation when fighting Mordor is essential. I know you endorse the books and thus know what I am saying. The essence of Lotr can not be put into a mod or game, but to make players feel like they are fighting in this very true world IS possible.

It's not fair, thought.
Your decision.

I just don't get why the army structure for Rohan (or Mordor for that matter) is the EXACT same as gondor.

I mean, what about giving Rohan a TON of armies that are mounted only and maybe only 20 unit strong (depending on your level).

In the books the Orks fear going into Rohan, probably because there are horsepatrols everywhere.
Big armies, that's for Gondor. And Mordor?

Why does Mordor send tons of armies to Dol Amroth. It would be possible to script an slow advance of Mordor forces. Isengard on the other hand could send out those Ork patrols.

It would be, at least, nice to change the structure of the armies and it would only take a couple of minutes.
You can keep the hosts, but Middle Earth is not about absolute balance. Mordor IS stronger and HAS more units.

Why worry about the right armor if the basic structure isn't accurate?

captain_bloodloss 说:

um...yeah so we got attacked first, and thus retaliation is a form of defense, and since we were attacked by terrorists one would naturally attack retaliate against terrorists, hence bin ladden, saddam etc etc, i would call that defending, because if we sat back and do nothing it would just happen again

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While I do not see any reason for the US to keep from kicking random small countries in the balls while they can, you sir, are an idiot.
Saddam is not a terrorist and everybody knows that.

But whatever, if you feel like going into Iraq or Iran and killing those ****heads, go ahead, I certainly won't complain.
Fundamental governments are a plaque and two of this kind fighting each other is acceptable.

Chaotic-Evil
20% Good, 78% Chaotic

You scored higher than 1% on Good
You scored higher than 95% on Chaotic

Well guess I am pretty evil.

I think it's pretty nice to play a human girl with mad skills who fights for Saruman and commands hordes of Uruk-Hai.

I personally wouldn't play as an orc so often because they, meh, dunno

Okay well, what's the deal with the map getting to big?
Let's look at this for a moment.

This is the best map I could find:
http://valarguild.org/arathorn/lotr/me_maps/me-map.jpg

If you compare it to the current map, Gondor is FAR too big. Also, scrape the western parts because they are uninteresting.
I'd suggest the following:

Include Dol Guldur and Lorien and make the map unsymetric.
The height would be from Ithilien to Dol Guldur, but in the West Dol Amroth would be the very western end, while the map ends with Mordor as it does now.
For the south barrier I'd take the Anduin. Yeah, seriously.


Dol Guldur and Lorien would be a serious addition to the game. Just think of the possibilites. While west-gondor is boring to say the least.
The realm of Rohan and the Anduin would be the center of the map, which corresponds to what happens in the book.

It might be a bigger map, but that should happen anyway. Every map you will be able to create is off-scale anyways.

Recruiting Elves from Gondorian cities sucks. The book tells us that they were actively defending Lorien and possibly Dol Guldur/Mirkwood but not more. I don't think Elves fought in Gondor.

Ancientwanker 说:

First off, amazing mod.. I am having tons of fun running around as a Rohan horseman destroying everything in my path, but I have alot of difficulty playing as mordor and isengard due the lack of quest giving locations. I don't think you need to add more locations, but I find sometimes that one or more towns seem to get locked off due to a quest I am unable to complete, namely bring x pick axes to me, or bring y mail hauberks (usually they request 4-6). I think you should make those kind of quests fairly uncommon, and even when they do pop up have them requests one or two of the item type instead of 4-6 (we only have so many merchants to buy from).. You can even make specific dialogue for these quests (ex: Have Rohan request a corser for a newly-promoted captain, or have Isengard request a rohan sword and rohan surcoat to give to a spy).

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Glad you like it. I probably will add an extra place for isengard but you do know that there are merchants in the camps, right? Rohan/Gondor have access to 14 merchants, the Shadow powers have access to 9.

I was wondering a couple things:
1. Is there a trainer in the game, like in vanilla? I'm playing Rohan and I didn't see one in any of the towns I've been to so far.
2. I was wondering why we don't see Rivendale (the elf city whatever it's spelled) or the Shire? Any particular reason to leave them out?

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#1 not yet.
#2 rivendale would be far to the north-northwest and couldnt be included without a much larger map. The shire would be a huge distance away to the northwest and would make the map incredibly large. This would cause trouble for the AIs ability to stay focused in an area.

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Please make the map bigger and more detailed. I would LOVE to see Lorien in it or southern parts of Mirkwood. Lorien is probably to much up north, but what about Sauron's earlier hideout? He might regain it if Rohan is defeated or such.
Also: Elves.

You might even try to implement creepy story missions in those woods, but thats probably to far.

Conan 说:

This is the actual 3rd age Gondorian armor used by the fighters of Minas Tirith. Notice how the Black Helmet now looks exactly like what we saw in the movies or descriptions in ROTK book.


I did do the shield, but it looks rather odd. I might redo it in metal.




If you want I could post the Citadel Guard armor but it is just a Coat of Plate with different colors (black) and the new Gondorian logo (Tree+Helmet+Stars) established after Aragorn became king.

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Where do I find this armor? Ive looked all around the cities and cant find them![/quote]

My textures were ultimately abandoned because they were more true to the movies than the books.
I don't have them anymore.
They suckes anyway.