-NationMEXICO (Yes, we play videogames too... eerrr... while we eat tacos & have lots of parties ) (Well not those fake tacos at taco bell... I mean real tacos yuumy ) -Age 23 -M&B Wb version 1.153 or 1.157 (Steam?) 1.153. No steam... dindn't knew about the most recent patch... downloading now -Last 1860s version played 0.98 -how deep U played? well... not as much as I would have liked to... a lot of stuff (work, social life, gf, family) limits my "free time" -RATE it on MODDB Didn't knew this awesome mod has a tread there... I'll rate it later -...ever tried 1755 or 1776? But of course, those mods are great, I speacially liked 1776 -Eventual help/support: Could help with any "historical" feedback if needed, We Mexicans love the history of those years !
Lets see "amigos" well my own comment on 1860s is that It is speacial & unique I mean is there any other mod that focuses in the events of the american continent in those years ? Easy answer, NO ! This is by far one of the mods that make me return to my WB game & play for hours whenever I can. Plus I can play as a Mexican gunslinger or an adventurous "Jinete" no other mod has added Mexico as a faction, so even if this mod was bad (wich is not) I would simply love it & play it.
Great fan & supporter of Grabilduro here
Greetings to you all lads from Mexico !! Ay ay ay !! Viva Mexico Cabrones
Hey lads, I had that mod but lost the dam files...
I've been diggin' arround with no luck finding the better woman faces for Brytenwalda.
Maybe it does no longer supports that submod or i'm just stupid blind to not find it.
Could anybody please direct me to where it is (if it still exist)...
I have seen both movies of the Alamo (with the same name). The old one, of 1960 (with John Wayne) was rather good IMHO, and the mexicans were portrayed as decent humans too. The newer one, of 2004, I like a lot less; The battles look great, and the Mexican uniforms are splendid, but the guys in them are portrayed as cruel opressors (especially Santa Anna). Also, the final battle makes the Americans win anyway and stuff.
I also did read the book on which the 2004 film was based (or maybe the other way round, not 100% sure about that), and it was clearly a piece of American 'patriotism' and propaganda. I dislike stuff like that a lot anyway, so possibly I'm biased.
VianeyLover 说:
Yeaaah like Tuco is the greatest funiest badass of all times!
He is like a bad guy but also a good guy but above else he's sooo sinical and funy
And that is mexican spirit, you can be the ugly but you'll always amile
There are a lot of Mexican "series" inspired in the feats & events of this period in history... let me check if they are abaible in englis or at least subtitles, you could get a bigger picture from the time period
May 4, 1862 The General Tomas Leonardo O'Horan defeats Marquez in Atlixco-(Battle of Puebla)
The most famous feat of arms of the French intervention of 1862-1867 is the epic day on May 5, 1862, when General Ignacio Zaragoza defeated the French troops in the city of Puebla.
In addition to this action were fought many battles in which the Republican troops were brilliant victories, without which Puebla had not had the impact it had on our history. One of these acts of war is to Atlixco, Pue., Where troops defeated Republican conservative, thereby preventing the French strengthened.
Although the conservative army had been completely defeated in the Battle of Calpulalpan, with which ended the War of Reform, still existed in the country wealth of conservative forces, led by some generals who had escaped falling prisoners. Among them was General Leonardo Marquez, who commanded a major rebel group in the south-central state of Puebla and in the vicinity of the state of Tlaxcala.
When it became a fact the French Intervention, General Leonardo Marquez did not hesitate to serve the invaders, for which headed out to the rescue at the head of his army. Knowing that the Earl of Lorencez, head of the French army was heading towards the city of Puebla, Marquez gathered his forces in the town of Atlixco, situated 40 kilometers from the state capital.
Definitely would have achieved its purpose, but for the timely intervention of General Thomas O'Horan Republican who defeated him completely the May 4, 1862, one day before the General Zaragoza defeated the invaders in the unforgettable day of Puebla on May 5.
the French invasion of Mexico
-6 March 1862: France sent about 5,000 men under the command of Carlos Fernando Latrille to the city of Veracruz.
-5 May 1862: Mexican Republican victory in the Battle of Puebla.
-16 March 1863: France sent 30,000 additional troops under the command of General Forey
-17 May 1863: The French General Forey captured Puebla's central square.
-10 June 1863: French troops occupied the capital of Mexico. (The French army has jumped to over 45,000 men)
A fact of singular importance weapons occurred during the French intervention is undoubtedly the battle of Tacambaro, where were victorious Republican troops led by General Nicolas Régules on the Belgian Legion soldiers, valuable win that national arms were imposed on a foreign army, which unfortunately has fallen into oblivion to over the years.
Although the Second Empire of Maximilian of Hapsburg based its military power in the French Army expeditionary forces and the conservative hosts had stuck, the imperialist forces had also large contingents of Belgian and Austrian soldiers. The latter, like the French, were regular items, seasoned in many battles and therefore with great military experience, plus it had great weapons and equipment.
At the other extreme was the vast majority of the Republican troops, and that those who were involved, were mostly rural people, with almost no military training and improvised weaponry in most cases. In 1865, major cities of our country, were in the hands of the imperialists, however, the Republican troops still fought the invaders, even though they had to fight simply by guerrilla warfare.
During the month of April of the same year, a contingent of 400 soldiers of the Belgian Legion, under Major Tydgadt took the place of Tacambaro, Michoacan. The responsibility to recover this population, fell to General Nicholas Régules, who operated in that region. Meanwhile the Belgians had apprehended Mrs. Solorzano of Régules Soledad and the children of the marriage with the obvious purpose of using them as hostages. Imperialist troops had fortified church of the population and the surrounding buildings, where soon after, received all Republican fire intensity.
Not without great sacrifices Régules soldiers fighting began flocking to his favor. When the situation became desperate for the Belgians, they chose to put on the trenches Régules family, exposing it to bullets, this however, was not daunted by the infamy and when someone suggested to desist from continuing the attack, harangued his soldiers saying "Gentlemen, each to their jobs, to do his duty, first is the homeland".
Then came the most bitter of combat, when Republicans took by assault the church, dying in action Tydgadt and Captain Chazal, the Belgian survivors were taken prisoner. Despite the intensity of the battle Régules could safely rescue his family as just reward the courage and spirit of sacrifice that had shown just before addition to the above, receive the rank of General of Division from President Benito Juarez, who thus became deserved recognition of his victory.
March 24 marks the anniversary of the seizure of Chihuahua by Republican troops, weapons fact happened in 1866, which contributed to the downfall of the Second Empire headed by Maximilian of Hapsburg.
In 1866, the situation for the imperialists began to become desperate, due both to the gradual decline of foreign aid as the gains made by troops loyal to Juarez, led by the likes of General Mariano Escobedo, Jerónimo Treviño Andrew S. Bisects, Ramon Corona, Porfirio Diaz and Luis Terrazas, who succeeded in driving the enemy from the north, northeast, northwest and west.
The attack on the capital of Chihuahua began at nine in the morning of March 24, 1866, led by Colonel Luis Terrazas, who upon discovering that the imperialist army composed of French and Mexican, was possessed of the square and tried to start a movement by the right side, launched his cavalry against the enemy left flank, capturing many prisoners and evacuate several buildings.
When being masters of the field, the Republicans began the final assault, commanding Brassieres Rocha, who with his artillery managed to silence enemies several pockets of resistance, while the remaining troops occupied the place progressively.
At eleven o'clock at night there came the surrender of the imperialists, who were more than 200 prisoners were captured numerous and war material, fire hydrants and ammunition, which was placed on the part surrendered to General Ignacio Mejia Secretary of War and Navy, by Colonel Luis Terrazas, under whom Sosthenes Colonels fought Rocha, Felix Diaz, and John N. Thomas Borrego Castro, among other brave soldiers.
One of the greatest victories of the republican arms during the French Intervention, is undoubtedly the Battle of La Carbonera, won by General Porfirio Diaz on October 18, 1866.
Previously Diaz himself had inflicted a severe defeat on the imperialists on 3 October in Miahuatlán, Oax. After this victory, besieged in the city of Oaxaca to General Carlos Oronoz conservative.
After 11 days of siege, became aware of the approach of an elite enemy contingent, composed of 1,500 men, mostly French, Austrians and Hungarians. Diaz went out to meet the imperialist leaving a garrison holding the site.
The 18th at 11:00 am, was high in the hills of the Carbonera and selected their fighting positions.
Just had finalized the Republican lines when the enemy stormed the field, launching a strong attack supported by artillery fire. However, the guns imperialists could not prevent the advance of the troops of Diaz, who soon reached the enemy positions dasatando one melee that soon caused the flight of the interventionists. By being rejected by the republican forces, imperialists tried to regroup with the help of their artillery, but it was too late because the columns of General Pérez Figueroa and Diaz himself, had already exceeded their lines.
The battle lasted about an hour and ended with the total defeat of the invaders, being held by a sizable Mexican troops composed booty rifles, saddles, guns and ammunition.
January 14, 1867 The General Ramón Corona occupies Guadalajara
In early 1866 the empire he had created Maximilian of Hapsburg slowly began to crumble, after several years of fighting, the army had improved his conservative tactically under the command of experienced commanders, Generals Miguel Miramon, Leonardo Márquez and Tomás Mejía, but also the Republican troops were organized and what were originally isolated guerrillas who had disturbed the imperial forces, had become regular armies that threatened the empire, so the landscape in the country completely changed.
In the north the presence of Mariano Escobedo, Ignacio Mejia and other prominent military veterans of the War of Reform, had led to the emergence of young soldiers across the country, full of momentum and exalted patriotism. Among these were Antonio Rosales, Nicholas Régules, Eulogio Parra, Andrew S. Viesca, Ramon Corona, Ignacio Pesqueira and others that appeared in the various states of the country, facing these forces outnumbered and military resources, but which gradually tended networks were closed against the invaders and the forces reactionary.
The actions of the Western Army Commander, General Rosales, awoke and created a stubborn resistance to the imperialist forces, which showed itself in the defense of Mazatlan, in the battle of San Pedro. Later, after the death of Rosales, General Ramón Corona took over and consolidated the Army of the West.
When Corona was informed that the enemy would evacuate the square of Mazatlan, decided to form a brigade as the vanguard of Western army should march on Jalisco.
The last remnants of the French troops who had remained in Jalisco in December retreated and the city was given the chief imperialist General Ignacio Gutierrez. In such circumstances the forefront Brigade entered the state of Jalisco reaching Autlán population. At this site, on December 10th Colonel Parra learned from his scouts, that a column of French and Mexican conservatives had baked southbound Guadalajara, the middle of that month, there was a confrontation between two forces in a so fierce fighting that battle, started at eleven o'clock, lasted until four in the afternoon, when the Republicans achieved a complete victory.
The final meeting took place in the Plaza de Guadalajara, as the imperialists, hearing of the defeat, left the city that night, leaving the field open for the Republicans, who triumphantly entered the capital of Jalisco. On January 14, 1867 arrived in Guadalajara General Ramón Corona.
Thus the short-lived monarchy of Maximilian lost another of his statements at the hands of liberal hosts, who closed the military siege that gradually would end with the defeat and surrender of the imperialist troops.
During the struggle for independence of the nation to decide for itself the course of its history and the free choice of the men who would direct the courses of the country, it took many years of struggle to finally the Republic led by Benito Juarez victorious erected on the so-called "Second Empire", headed by the Archduke Maximilian of Hapsburg.
The situation for the imperialists had become hopeless from the beginning of year 1867, when the French Emperor Napoleon III ordered the withdrawal of its troops, which ended on February 5 with the withdrawal of Marshal Achille Bazaine, his staff and the rest of the French soldiers who remained in the country.
Maximilian out of Mexico City on February 13, 1867 and took refuge in the square of Querétaro with loyal troops still had about 2,600 men. There was besieged in the first days of March the Republican Army under General Escobedo Marino.
On March 14 saw the first attack on the Convent Garden and La Cruz, where Republicans were repelled several attacks were made subsequently to take place, all with courage and bravery but without success for Republicans. During the first days of May the hunger and despair that reigned among imperialist soldiers already being felt and bosses in this situation made a War Council in which they proposed to break the siege on May 14, however, knew Maximilian hardly survive the siege Republican in the prevailing conditions.
On May 15 the Republican troops managed to enter the convent of La Cruz that was guarded by Colonel Miguel Lopez. Upon entering the troops of General Mariano Escobedo, Maximilian and Generals Miguel Miramon and Tomas Mejia retreated to the Cerro de las Campanas, where they concluded that they had no way out so they sent Lieutenant Colonel Agustin Pradillo with a white flag to look at General Escobedo, but not finding imperialist generals surrendered to General Ramon Corona, who took them to General Escobedo, who surrendered his sword Archduke. Maximilian was taken to the Convento de La Cruz and then to Santa Teresa. Meanwhile Generals Miramon and Mejia were sent to the Capuchin Convent.
The Archduke was tried by a court-martial, which sentenced him to death along with his two companions, a sentence which was run at seven in the morning of June 19, 1867. With the defeat of the Empire of Archduke resurfaces Republic, giving the foundations of democracy and self-determination
June 19, 1867 Execution of Maximilian, Miramon and Mejia
The shooting of Archduke Maximilian of Hapsburg, alongside the conservative generals Miguel Miramon and Tomas Mejia, occurred on June 19, 1867, is the epilogue of the Second Mexican Empire, fruitless adventure that sought to establish a monarchy in Mexico, headed by a foreign prince.
After the French troops made it into the capital, Maximilian was set in front of an "empire" that was marked by instability, economic and political as well as military, because although major Mexican cities were in the hands of the troops interventionist, the vast majority of the territory remained under the control of Republicans.
In early 1866 the emperor of France, Napoleon III, decided to begin the withdrawal of its troops from the autumn of the same year. Without the support of the French Army, Maximiliano quickly began losing territory. From all parts of the country, large numbers of outstanding commanding general and Porfirio Diaz, Nicholas Régules, Mariano Escobedo and Vicente Riva Palacio and others moved inexorably toward the center of the country.
Maximiliano ended up taking refuge in Queretaro on February 19, 1867, accompanied by forces still loyal to him. Shortly after he was besieged by about 10,000 soldiers of the Republican army, commanded by General Mariano Escobedo and in the weeks following bitter battles were fought heroic episodes filled.
By April of that year, the state of siege was hopeless, yet resisted until May 15, when Republican troops entered the city. Prisoners in Querétaro, the imperialists were subjected to a trial that was consistent with the law of January 25, 1862, according to which would run against people who would attack on the independence of Mexico. A tribunal of Plato and Manuel Sanchez Aspiroz, condemned to death. Maximilian, Miramon and Mejia were shot at the foot of the Cerro de las Campanas at seven in the morning of June 19, 1867.
June 21, 1867 Making Mexico City by Porfirio Diaz.
After the defeat of Maximilian at Queretaro and the fall of the Second Empire emífero, General Porfirio Diaz went to Mexico City with the decision to take the city by assault. Knowing the advancing troops under Diaz, the defenders of the City of Mexico, agreed to raise a white flag, in such a way that at dawn on June 20, 1867, the surrender flag was at the entrance of Capital.
The General Alatorre, representing the General Diaz was asked to meet with the commission that would deliver the Plaza with certain guarantees. No more provisions agreed saying he did not have the authority to ensure the safety of the inhabitants, in return offered only receive their unconditional surrender, to which the committee agreed.
The commission returned to the besieged city with the answer given to the republican army, but Diaz became impatient of delay General Alatorre and not knowing the answer to the demand for the surrender of the place, decided to attack, making an immediate deployment of forces on the main points, in preparation for the assault.
Republican Army opened fire on the besieged city causing again hoisted the flag of surrender, giving unconditionally Square.
Shortly thereafter, General Diaz led the celebrations that greeted the senses of the Republic in the Capital Benito Juarez, who thus could restore the powers of the federation, and thereby gave way to strong and definitive empire Maximilian, become clear determination that the Mexican people have defended their independence and self-determination in the course of national history
To add a little more of spice to this interesting chat, I actually live in the state of Puebla, in the heroic city of Atlixco
In the capital of the state, & all arround the country, there is a celebration in honour to the battle of Puebla the 5th of May, but in Atlixco the celebration takes place the 4th of May.
This is because, the french legion that was marching to Puebla was specting reinforcements from the imperialist supporters....
Thay marched by the city, wich didn't welcomed them & in the bridge of "Los Molinos" the battle was presented by Republicans & Imperialist, resulting in a Victory for the Republicans & thus cutting the reinforcements for Count Lorencez in his efforts to siege the city of Puebla.
Another little note, most people think that the battle was fought by "Poblanos" (People born in Puebla region or Natives in the state) but the real truth is that the army led by Zaragoza was formed by many heroic & iconic regiments of soldiers from all over the country.
I would love to keep posting about this interesting period of Mexican history, but I've to go now... Next post will have the name of the regimients that participated in that battle & if posible their equipment.
I can help you out with any historical feedback about "La Guerra de Reforma" (Reform War... Ithink) Between the liberals (Led by Benito Juarez) & the Conservatives!
Also, the history of Maximiliano de Habsburgo, it's quite interesting, to make it short the laws that B. Juarez was defending, resulted that Maximilian also said that those laws where needed in order to create an independent country!! Quite interesting period of Mexican History.
I love all of your mods! (Personally I prefer M&B vanilla, but purchased a WB just to play with your awesome work)
Specially the 1860 since I'm actually Mexican
This period of time was uber important for Mexico and faced two great individuals Benito Juarez & Maximiliano de Amsburgo (said in spanish) we Mexicans celebrate this period a lot, since it determined the total autonomy of our nation.
I thank u Gab for all the time & effort you have spent on this.
And lastly: Viva Mexico Cab****!
EDIT by GABBY:
VianeyLover
Madre de Dios!!!!
A real Mexican!!
Yesss!! U should really ride close to this Maccaroni, Compadre.
Hehehehe----I loved Tuco, in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly...remember??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTcBgs2huRo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=6thuiB_Kl7E&NR=1
...but I ADORED this scene (makes u reason on things! )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSkeQkb8NMo&NR=1&feature=endscreen
It s missing the scene that follows this one, where Tuco tells Blondie how much his brother likes him and all nice things...this scene is incomplete without the next one.
OK! I d like to have u on 1860s Thread as a Gabrilduro s Supporter of the MEXICAN side!!!
Gab
PS pls DO NOT feedback HERE.
I dedicated a post to u here, if u want to reply
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,195464.msg6010459.html#msg6010459
Stupid mod.. it look really good and was it good idea... i download and try before 3 month and all my friend and all enemies was immortal... -_-" So i try it now... and again !!! I try it on 3 computers ! Computer of my friend !=Don t work... My Computer=Don t work, My notebook=Don t Work ! All are immortal ! So this mod me very disappoint! (Sorry for my bad english)
Well... I have been playing it since ancient times & I got no problem at all... Can you be more especific on details? such as which vers of warband you have & stuf like that.
Hi lads! looks like your are both doing a nice nice modding job
Sorry I lost contact whit you people, but for those times some bastards entered my house while I was out killing heretics & these so called bastards thought it was a nice idea to take my gaming laptop & every other valuable stuff the could find... In other words I got robbed...
The thing is that whit this cheap laptop I can't play some heavy graphic games like warband (only from patch 1.131 & up)
Job is absorbing, but if I get my promotion early (like 2-3 months) count me in as your coder
) (Well not those fake tacos at taco bell... I mean real tacos yuumy )
