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Breaking a shield seems highly unlikely, considering you only hit the shield with a melee weapon if they are holding it up, and they can't hold it up while attacking. The only reason to block would be if you screwed up your thrust and still had time to pull up the shield.

I'd also recommend figuring out a combination of factions which have access to identical lances and at least similar strength heavy armor.


Although one recommendation I'd make is instead of rounds, just repeatedly charge until one rider is dismounted (killed), with a horse kill causing a disqualification. Reason being that it is a joust, not a foot duel, and since the horse's nose is the closest available target, anybody decent on foot combat will just aim for the horse and get to fight everyone on foot.

i think there should be a middle ground.
in older versions, two large armies would tend to fight for days until one army was totally destroyed..
now, two armies will meet and break apart after a few moments, with hardly any casualties, and then often go their separate ways.

I'd rather see large armies locked in combat for at least half a day, and I also think the autocalc's should happen more often.  currently it will calculate casualties once right before the parties break up, in older versions, as the two armies battled for days, they would take casualties perhaps 4 times a day.  Instead I'd rather see them calculate casualties somewhat frequently.
This way, if a party of 100 meets a party of 10, the battle will end pretty quickly after a couple of autocalc's go through and the smaller party gets destroyed.  In older versions it would take all day for the party to lose, and in the latest versions, it would take just as long, unless they broke apart within moments and ran away.

If a party of 100 meets a party of 100, they should battle from noon till dusk at least, with a couple dozen casualty updates, leaving both sides ravaged by the time the battle ends or they separate.  You'd likely wind up with a handfull of troops leading twice their number of wounded and prisoners back to a friendly castle to rest.

can you imagine what TLD would look like in this version?  the great hosts would never EVER die without the player attacking them, they'd just dance around eachother all day..

I never bother with blunt weapons..  Manhunter armies FTW!
Why try to get that nobleman with a hammer, when you can send 30 men with hammers to do it for you!  Meanwhile, you can hack and slash at all the other enemies protecting him.

I typically arm B&M with glaives, chargers, and jarid.  Along with the heaviest armor I can find.  They tend to do some pretty decent damaged fitted that way.  Especially if you manage to keep them from getting mobbed without the support of the rest of the army..  but then I typically use manhunters, so everyone is mounted.  (Chase some bandits toward manhunters until they happen to attack them, then aid the manhunters and knock them all out with rocks and retreat, after a bit, the bandits will take the manhunters prisoner.  Repeat until they have enough prisoners to fill your army, and kill the bandits.  Instant manhunter army.  Fully upgraded they match Knights.)

yep.. you could also enable cheat mode in the settings and use ctrl-x on the inventory/character screen for extra gold/xp... little slower but meh.  also can be used in party screen to upgrade troops, and ctrl-click on travel map teleports, ctrl-t on travel map lets you see parties everywhere...
theres a list of all cheats somewhere... those are the ones I use when I get bored and just want to prawn everything in sight...

oh and sometimes ctrl-h in battle for full heal.. when i want to single-handedly storm a castle with a cleaver 
just have to wear heavy armor, especially head-armor, as a bolt through the eye tends to one-hit you without a good amount of HP and superb helmet..

yeah, best you can do atm is a mob holding a hilltop.. but they constantly run down the sides of the hill trying to engage a horseman who just rode by, slapped him, and rode off..
pikemen do help a bit, as they can make a horseman rear if the horse charges head-on.. but they mill around too much to be effective..  and the cavalry can often get the first strike on a pikeman...

yeah, tough to do when nobody here knows anything about them.. 
was thinking less history-based and more designed for gameplay..
take a bunch of different themes from various cultures in history and throw them onto an island.. just make sure none were known for heavy cavalry..  maybe a few NPC leaders who are heavily armored knight types.. and maybe some light unarmored cavalry (the kind that rears when it hits an infantryman, then gets ripped apart)..
but mostly just grunts, with a bit of support from skirmisher types...

first linked mod comes with no info.. so i'm suspecting they just took out horses from Native.. meaning a lot of knights running around on foot with lances.. and other sillyness and imbalance..  but i could be wrong.. there is no info on it..
second link, if you read through, has a few people complaining that there are still a good number of horses in the enemy parties.. so thats a no-go too..

also, would be nice to have one in the latest version.. and actually be its own mod, rather than a slightly tweaked Native, with its own balanced armies..

hmm.. i never got a message... wonder if i left my old email...

haha, looked before,i can see a truck parked in my redneck neighbor's lawn..

theres a wiki, doesn't currently have tutorials as far as i know, but i think you can edit it to add some...
theres tutorials all over these forums, most are in stickies or linked to from stickies, just dig around
also, if you go in the official mod forum and read the thread about the official mod tools, DL Python and the mod tools, you should be able to figure most things out on your own, the mod files are fairly simple and well-documented

i took over the world once, maybe thats why i'm bored, nothing can really follow up...


anyway, i started playing with The GIMP (photoship-like program), hopefully that will keep me occupied for a while now..

meh, maybe i should just drop out of school and find someplace cool to live.. 

Taka 说:

I was messing around with the modding tools, playing around and adding in new classes.  On a lark, I add a number of extra possible soldiers to all the Swadian and Vaegir parties, including the castles.  I decide "What the hell" and gather my army to march against the castle, and when I get there, my men are cheering on the ramparts and it says "battle won, press tab to leave".  I leave battle and check. . . not a one enemy soldiers was gone.  So I enter, hit retreat, and then attritian my way into winning it.  Decided "alright, maybe it's just something I screwed up with the defenders".  I lure an army of Black Knights to the castle, they attack me. . . and the same thing happens.  Men all around the area chearing and telling me I won without the loss of a single troop on either side.  It's not a problem in native, so it's something screwy with the mod itself.  Anyone have any ideas?

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sounds like something you changed in mission_templates, check out the mission template for castle sieges in both your mod and native to see if its different.. then maybe try game_menus if that doesn't show anything

i played RTW for a while, got bored and finally decided to try the Rome Total Realism mod, it was great, i strongly recommend it
increases the map size by about 50% to include the far east, balances out cavalry, and consolidates Rome into one smaller nation

i'm a heavy mix, the largest bits are irish, italian, and german..
i know my last name goes back to the last pagan high king of ireland, Daithi i think his name was

HAH, that's a good way to get thrown out of school, and possibly admitted to a mental institute
i actually have a few good scars...
considered working out, but seeing as I can eat everything in sight for a week and not gain any weight, it doesn't seem likely till my metabolism slows down, that and i have no transportation to a gym and no money to blow on wieghts...

6.Make a mod for M&B.
7.Download massive amounts of scat pr0n on your roommates comp.
8.Eat some mämmi. (Then you probaply have something to clean  Wink)
9.use make up and get some girls.
10.Start supaer spammage on this forum (Not suggested)

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6.see barfight mod... bout all i'm capable of, working on a large one, but its dull work..
7.got my own, thanks
8.never heard of it, not sure i want to... doesn't sould like something i'd find in these here parts...
9.HAH..
10.what do you think this is, i've posted a thread like this in 4 forums now..

actually, i'm living in a college dorm, so its not like i can invite someone back to my place, most of the girls around live there too
second, if you ever saw my face, you would understand why i don't even bother trying to pick up girls, 99.9% are out of my league

1.Play M&B.
2.Get a kitten.
3.Clean the house.
4.Make a lockpick out of an old computer.
5.Delete all unimprtant files from your computer.

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1.i've been playing games constantly for a long time, so its getting old
2.no animals allowed in the dorm
3.its the only spotless dorm room anywhere i think
4.no old comps, but i'm looking at my roommate's comp, how does this work?
5.done, even started deleting semi-important files