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HopitKonsta 说:

Elenmmare 说:

This mod has been in development for over a year. They've thought it all out, and you're not going to get Arch to change his mind easily.

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why there will not be orcs they are not impossible daydream have made them...

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There will be Orcs, they just wont be in the initial releases though.

Lazza 说:

Excuse me.But where is the Link for Download this MOD?pls...
Warhammer the Best. ^^ 

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Have you ever read the first page?

Kazzan 说:

Well, i hate both empire and brettonia, they look so bad. The only thing they are good for is feeding my zombies

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you filthy undead, prepare to be exorcist! BOOM! 

those marauders and brettonian knights look awesome! I wish GKH and Ursca would work together and create a mode with both the Empire and Brettonia. I love both factions 

im not sure if anyone has suggested this but I think a Jedi should become a jedi knight then a jedi master. Since Jedi are elite warrior, there should be more tier in their troop tree.
Sorry for not reading all the pages.

Kathek 说:

Arcius Azrael 说:

grailknighthero 说:

That was just a general comment/observation, not necessarily for your scene.

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I know, I was just asking for you opinion too. I might try adding some small house in the middle.

Do you think my village is too big, too well-developed for a village? From what I researched, Ostermark is a battle-scared region. The village at the moment is too prosperous I think.

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Actually that was what I was thinking. If this is meant as a town, it looks good. If its just a rural village, Im not sure it would be too close together. I think its shaping up nicely though, lots of thought in it, I like it alot, town or village

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no, actually, I think this is fine. A proper town should have a big wall, a gate, a castle, dungeon and so on. Let's keep it like this, we can change later if we want anyway.

grailknighthero 说:

That was just a general comment/observation, not necessarily for your scene.

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I know, I was just asking for you opinion too. I might try adding some small house in the middle.

Do you think my village is too big, too well-developed for a village? From what I researched, Ostermark is a battle-scared region. The village at the moment is too prosperous I think.

grailknighthero 说:

Warhammer towns, at least Empire towns, seem to be as many buildings packed as close together as possible.

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So I should add more building? Should I? I dont know. Can a village has that much building/populace? I've been trying not to make it like a town. It has too much stone structures already while they should be wooden structures.

Njiekovic 说:

Excellent! Might I suggest some fisherman's hut/gear between the town wall and the river (near the little peer)?

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ok, I'll do that.

Njiekovic 说:

Wouldn't the people and soldiers from the village retreat to within the town walls and set up defenses there? I think the hill would be very suitable for a look-out post (a seat, an alarm bell and a small roof). You could set that up next to the mill. As soon as the guy starts raising the alarm everyone would retreat to the town and the beastmen would have a much harder time attacking.

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well, these barricades are for a dire situation. Like if there are some people did not make it inside the walls and they have no other way to defend themselves (though this would mean certain death). The windmill is important to a village as well, and they need to protect their supply of grain/wheat. Anyway, I just think that putting some barricade there wouldnt hurt, right?  it does look nice.

Njiekovic 说:

That steed is indeed superb! And the other work as well. But, don't underestimate your own work. The atmosphere it breathes is awesome! Really!

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Then I will have to try harder to keep up with the expectation 

Claytonic3000 说:

Just some textures, was trying to make some good chaos armor and crap.

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great! why dont you do it again? I will be waiting for your works.

Lt. of the tower 说:

Looking good, but needs more stuff to fill up space.

some pics for ideas:

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Some large ruiny ones, worth a look:
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/gameInfo/zoneOverviews/Praag/images/Praag04.jpg
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/gameInfo/zoneOverviews/Praag/images/Praag03.jpg
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/gameInfo/zoneOverviews/Praag/images/Praag02.jpg

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Thanks for the pics, Lt. of the tower. But those would be suitable for a town, not a village like this (although its getting closer to be a town with all those fortification and tower). I believe GaGrin has made some excellent town scenes before, they look quite similar to those pics of yours. About the empty space, I dont think there is much we can do now, its my fault to planned the outer wall too big, leading to unnecessary spaces.

Njiekovic 说:

Since the first one is obviously not the case, I suggest that you insert a small stream, preferably through the village (perhaps with some bridges and stuff). Make sure it runs from high to low 

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actually, the scene does have a stream, I havent showed it yet
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081103-011905.png
but making it run through the village is quite hard now. perhaps I will use this idea for my next scene

Njiekovic 说:

Owh and by the way, I don't think there's much sense in adding barricades with spikes near a windmill. Unless you want to fortify that whole position, to put some archer there to shoot down the hill in case the town is attacked. Plus it would be a good position for a guardsman. Just some thoughts.

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I just think the windmill is outside the wall, thus is a more dangerous area. So I cant help giving it some simple defenses. Maybe it can help slowdown a charge by beastmen while archers and peasants hold up against them.

Njiekovic 说:

We're looking at another masterpiece here!

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Thanks! But I just look back at some of the works by Mellonril, Ursca, Tostig, etc cant remember them all. Those are masterpiece. Especially Mellonril's chaos steed.

Kardiophylax 说:

Arcius Azrael 说:

still cant think of anything else to fill the empty space

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Well I assume it won't look nearly as empty once you add some peasants/townspeople walking around.  You wouldn't want the marketplace too cluttered with junk if people are supposed to walk around in there anyway. 


The town really needs some warhammer esque banners now, to help set the tone (although the skulls certainly help  ).

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yes, perhaps you're right. We need space for possible battles inside the village as well. And we do need flags, banners and such. But I believe Ursca or someone else already has those props made, so no worries.

Thanks everyone for your compliments, but this is no where near art. I just simply put some objects and some thought together 

Following Njiekovic 's suggestion, I made a gallow:


But after reading one of the first posts by Ursca.

Ursca 说:

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Exterior Scenes
Osterwald town centre
Eisental town centre
Nachtdorf town centre (needs town square to put gallows in)
Blutfurt ruins
Lumber camp

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I realized that perhaps only some city and big enough town would have a proper gallow. So I simplified it as much as this:

problem is we still need some rope

I also moved the windmill to a hill near the village, following Von Krieglitz 's suggestion:

found out that by using 'awning_c' you can make a nice barricade 



hope 4 pics wont slow anyone's comp down O___o

update for the village scene. EDIT: due to the large number of images, I've replaced the IMG codes by direct links.

-Added a small market in the centre of the village
-Added a stable.
-Added various small details and props.


still cant think of anything else to fill the empty space

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081102-003332.png
skulls and chain 

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081102-003315.png
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081102-003242.png
This is where militia and soldier seat and rest. would be cool if we can make the rest of the troops to patrol around in group of 2 or 3, just like in Witcher.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081102-003214.png
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081102-003139.png
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081102-003113.png

Glad to see you here
So what can you do about the BRFedit?

Also, I still havent received your reply about the scenes I've made (bandit camp and village). I PMed you twice. Wonder if they are ok and if you want me to send the sco file.

grailknighthero 说:

For a second, as I was quickly scrolling down, I thought someone had modeled them, but then I stopped scrolling and realized it was just a pic.  Ursca or Shifty might already have some buildings like those though.

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no, I dont think so. I've read through all the pages and they havent made any of those structure yet. Or at least they didnt post any picture of them.

And btw, I wonder why neither Ursca or Archonsod have not made any respond to the new module system.

Zaro 说:

He's referring to either the earth texture or path texture.

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ah, thanks, I got it.

Kazzan 说:

Will you guys make a demo first, or the full version first?

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I think its gonna be a full playable version. But more map, factions, weapons, armors will be gradually expanded after each update.

Higgings 说:

Arcius Azrael: Great work.
Very nice screen shots indeed.

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Thanks

Nordic Dragon 说:

hello guys! first time posting here.
i have some images that might be useful for creating new houses for this mod. its some house models from GW. i didn't see them in this thread so id thought you might wanna see them and use as reference or inspiration or something to get the real warhammer feeling to the enviorment. my 3d modeling skills are near to nonexistent but if i had some i would definitely try to help.

hope you find them useful =)

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Thanks, Nordic Dragon. I believe those pics were posted somewhere in this thread but I cant find them. So can you post them again with larger size? I wanna see the details of those structure. And Btw, if you wanna try modeling, I'd suggest 3DS Max.

Light In Extension 说:

No offence, I was just kidding around (:

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And none taken 

Branko 说:

Looks good, just one suggestion though. You could consider breaking up a bit ground texture in the farm area. You might wanna try the forrest & dirt texture combo with a bit of steppe or grass added in for the flavour.

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Im really bad at paitning texture, will give it atry though. one thing, what is the 'dirt' texture everyone keep talking about? There is no such thing in my list.

grailknighthero 说:

Looking nice Arcius Azrael.  Keep up the work.

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And thanks 

Light In Extension 说:

And some grammar .

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Sorry, I've been studying English for just over 2 years.

Kardiophylax 说:

Just a thought I had looking it over:

Will this village have any stables area for horse storage or merchants to purchase supplies from? 


Also, good news, the module system has been released.  http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,49267.0.html links to the announcement.

I will think about your village some more and see if I can come up with any other suggestions/questions. 

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This is a damn good news, the module system at last!!  thanks for telling us.
And yes, there will be merchants. I intend to shift the well nearer to the resident area and turn the little square into a small market, with vendors and such. Stable will be added in the farm area.

Von Krieglitz 说:

The windmill had to be on a high ground, and not to close from the bottom of a sharp cliff...

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This is true, I will fix this. Thanks.

Sorry for double post but this one is gonna big. Really sorry about the images. Should I post link instead of using IMG code? 
EDIT: due to the large number of images, I've replace the IMG codes by direct links.

Ok, this is the village so far. I havent add minor details such as rubish pile, weapons, foods yet but this is how the scene gonna be. I've drawn a quick layout for you guys too.

Overview



The Windmill
Havent put much effort in this yet, just wanna show you where its gonna be in the map. Put a simple defense/spikes, which I think is crappy.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-224046-1.png

Main Gate
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222545.png

The Tower
I like the pointy roof, it's really warhammer-ish. I put a small house there to act like an entrance to the tower. Also add some windows extensions, maybe archers/gunmen can shoot from there (this has no gameplay role, just to look cool).
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222545.png
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222714.png

The Church Area
This one is really really bad. Who could create such a bad church model like this? Need replacement, definately. Wanna add some high grass over here. Also, I want to add some graves inside the yard, but sadly, native's grave isnt suitable.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222728.png

The Farm Area
Again, not much here yet. I intend to put lots of wheat here. You can see there is a barn and some sort of farmhouse. We can put some horses, or better yet, put some cows if possible.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222829.png

The Guard House
This is where the Millitia or even a small detachment of the Imperial Army garrison, guarding the village. It has a small, 3-story tower, watching the South entrance. You can also see some windows sticking out from the wall, which is a good place for archers/gunners (this has no gameplay role, just to look cool).
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222757.png
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222743.png

The Resident Area
I like this one a lot. The paths are narrow and houses are messy.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222842.png
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-223011.png
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222950.png
not really sure why I put a ladder there, just think its cool

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222932.png
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/minh269/Warhammer%20Mod/mb-20081029-222911.png
I made a small scaffolding here where we can put 1 or 2 troops to guard the the West of the village.

What I'm gonna do next
-Add small stuff, rubbish, decor and skulls, yes, LOTS OF SKULL! 
-Maybe modify the windmill area a little bit.
-er..what else?

What we still need
-Props, warhammer's props, spike-rows, more skulls, flags, banners...

Muglos 说:

Is this mod dead?

I ask because the original poster hasn't been on since October of 06'

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NVM my bad. Look at the wrong thing. 

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Ursca just answered the same question to Nethoras, back at page 156. So I think everything is alright. We'r waiting for the module system I guess. But I've been wondering why we dont do what we can in the mean time, i.e. Night Gob's weapons, armors, scene/props (we do need lots of new props) etc.

Sir Timothi 说:

AI mesh helps the AI figure with pathfinding. For example, I don't think the AI will recognize that there is a wall in front of them until you place some mesh on the stairs to the top, and some mesh on the actual wall top. Does that help? It's kind of hard to explain. And even then, I'm not 100% sure that's what it is. 

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ah, ok, now I know why they keep bumping on a wall. I think I know what to do with it, thanks.

EDIT: you guys really need to see how this guy model, he's a pro O___O
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=410326

Claytonic3000 说:

Wow I've been away quite while. Had to fix my computer up, so that will happen. Sadly, files gone. Back to square 1.

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What kind of files are you talking about?

I got a question, does anyone know what is "ai mesh"? I saw some kind of squares, dots and lines, etc.
Btw, I nearly done the initial design of my village. I'll post screens tomorrow.

Nethoras 说:

has anyone from the actual mod team said anything lately?

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Ursca did drop by, back at previous page.