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Yes, Native. Dip mod = Diplomacy? Thanks, I'll check it out.

If you're currently under a mercenary contract with the King, then I don't think you can ask to be a Vassal. I've got well under 200 Renown and I have the option to ask about it (I just get refused). So wait till your contract is up, then try asking again.

LordHasek 说:

To the person who complained about jumping, I would mention that bunny hopping is one of the easiest things to defeat in multiplayer. They jump, you thrust, they impale themselves, you gg. Did they remember to downblock? If so, then side step them as they land and plant a swing square on their back.  Jumping is such a low percentage attack that one could see it as the equivalent of a hail mary pass or onside kick in (American) football - aka. it probably won't work.

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It's not even really that. It's more that it looks stupid and that it's not something you'd be able to do in real life while wearing this armour, at least not as often as you can in game. Some leather wearing archer, yeah whatever; but to see some full mail wearing, long axe, spear, and sword & shield wielding guy run around jumping everywhere is stupid. Like the person I quoted, I was hoping the multiplayer would be more realistic than it is (jumping and sprinting tied to a Stamina bar which is based on your Encumbrance, for example; or actual team work - though I figure this would be different in a Clan), but it's not; I've just had to chance my expectations, though it's still annoying to see.

LuckyDuckly 说:

Also, I figured M&B would be more realistic online, but for some reason people still jump around like any other game.

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Agreed. That is one of the most disappointing aspects of the multiplayer in my experience. I'd love to see these people try to bunny hop while wearing all that armour in real life 

Horrux 说:

So personally I don't see how money gets too easy or too plentiful, unless you aren't trying to rule all Calradia?

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This game I decided to stay as a vassal. My last one I had my own faction, if that's what you mean by rule all.
The difference I see right off the bat is I don't keep that many high tier troops around, so my wages are probably (much) lower than yours. I keep ~100-150 T2 troops in not-at-risk towns/castles, then in the two or three front line towns I have higher tier. Including my army and my main town where I keep my reserves (I also use Dhirim), I probably have 600 top tier troops. My troop wages are in the range of -10k per week, and another -10k due to tax inefficiency.
Right now the Khergit's have two towns, and the Sarranids have their original starting area plus a few Khergit holdings, everyone else has been taken out by me and my Nord allies.
I figure that's probably the deciding factor here. I'm Marshal so whenever I go on a conquering spree I usually have other Lords with me, so I don't lose a ton of my own men taking these castles and towns. And  since I'm part of a faction I generally don't request these new holdings, so I don't have to deal with garrisoning them.

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Big_H 说:

Since they added the businesses, money is really easy to make. Back in the day I was lucky if I could break even on pay day, I was still gaining money through other means (loot, trade, tournaments, etc), but my rents were roughly what my wages were. Now since I've opened a few businesses (I limit myself to only my faction, I don't build in other factions) I make 4-6k net per week (~24k gross).

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Why don't you build in other factions though?  Money is money, business is business, it's not politics.  At least, IN THE GAME it isn't...

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In the beginning it was because I didn't want to make it too easy. I already had a sizable chunk of money saved from before they added the businesses, and after experimenting in a few towns and seeing just how much money could be made I decided I would limit myself. Even just staying in my faction I've made over 200k since then, and now it's more of a 'who cares' reason. I have more money than I really need, so why bother increasing it at a greater rate? I'm already making 8-10k per week (depending on how the wars are going), so I don't really care about another couple thousand. Technically I could be making more and still staying within my rule, since we've (I've) conquered a lot more land since then, so there are a bunch of new towns that belong to our faction where I haven't built, but again 'meh'.

Since they added the businesses, money is really easy to make. Back in the day I was lucky if I could break even on pay day, I was still gaining money through other means (loot, trade, tournaments, etc), but my rents were roughly what my wages were. Now since I've opened a few businesses (I limit myself to only my faction, I don't build in other factions) I make 4-6k net per week (~24k gross).

Justout 说:

Good news, everybody! /Farnsworth

I decided that war policy be damned, I killed some Sarranid villagers. -4 relation with Sarranids. Took it back.

Oddly enough nobody in the Rhodok kingdom seems to mind that I just attacked and took a castle from a faction we aren't at war with, not even the king. Ah well. The Sarranids aren't too happy about it. But the game is progressing great now. =P

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The game treats you differently than other Lords, your actions don't matter as much. I conquered half the Khergits without my King declaring war or telling me to stop. I didn't even take a rep hit with my faction, just with the Khergits.

Horrux 说:

Is there a way to backup saves once in a while?  I mean, if you play realistic, you should be able to keep your game, unless this simulates a sudden end of the world? 

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The save files are stored in: ....My Documents\Mount&Blade Warband Savegames\*Mod*\ so you can back them up there (copy&rename).

killer110 说:

2 towns, 5 castles, high relations with all (Swadian) lords except Haringoth and King Harlaus the Fat. I was very, very close to defecting and ruling all Calradia when Crash! The game went balls up and I lost everything, in fact the only way the game wouldn't crash when I tried to play it was to delete my uber-save. Now I'm just a bloody mercenary again.

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My game has a tendency to crash also, which is why I don't play with Realistic, and make lots of different saves

Probably my worst crash was when I was fighting a obscene amount of troops in the field. My army was out numbered at least 5 or 6 to 1 (with multiple Lords on their side), but after many rounds I finally was able to wear them down to my size (losing half my army in the process). Over the next few rounds we both lost troops at about the same rate, until the last round when neither of us could muster a reinforcement wave. In the end I won the round with maybe half a dozen troops standing. The whole fight took close to an hour to finish, and my troops waded though hundreds upon hundreds of of the enemy. I hit Tab to go to the loot screen... and bam. CTD.


For those having their troops knocked out during a Tournament, you know you can use the battle commands in there right? Unless I'm unlucky enough to spawn in the middle, I usually tell my troops to Wait or Follow Me, then let the other groups fight it out first.

TheWatcher 说:

I did feel once or twice when I accidentally picked up a shorter weapon, it can be more useful at the ladder chokepoint, but those hammers hit HARD and fast and there are like 3 or 4 hitting me simultaneously, and I'm not even counting the appear-out-of-nowhere sharpshooters

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This I'd agree with. On horse or in the open field with an army, they're pretty easy; though I do occasionally run into that one Superman that can dehorse and kill/ko 10 of my knights before he's taken down.
The real problem I have, and where their toughness lies IMO, it when it's a small numbered foot battle; say the final room inside a Castle/Town. If there's more than two on you then you right, their hammer/pick spam is deadly. It doesn't do a ton of damage but it's fast and it can knock you down. Plus with their giant shields, it's hard to get a hit in if you're using a slower weapon than them.
After routing the defenders in half a dozen castles, only to then lose the fight in that final room (partially thanks to spawning with a bunch of archers which the Sergeants eat up), I adopted their tactic. Now when I go into a siege I always have my Board Shield and a Balanced Military Pick (plus the giant shield is helpful for getting into position since I like softening up the wall with my crossbow before sending my guys up).

If their faction has been eliminated completely, then no they'll never be ransomed.

You can stick them in a castle and let them rot; keep them in your party till they escape (~10% chance every 24 hours or something); download TweakMB and edit your game (temporarily) to increase the escape rate for your party; download a mod (Diplomacy has it I think) that allows you to release prisoners; or you can stash all your gear in your castle/town chest, drop off all your troops/companions, and then go get yourself captured, you'll lose a little money but you'll also lose the prisoners.

Rules: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,12250.0.html

It's down in the Website & Community section.

chokke 说:

Big_H 说:

chokke 说:

What troops should I put in my castle? JUst fill it up with rhodok sharpshooters with their awesome armor and high meleestats? Or should I mix some stuff?

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I generally put 3:1 Archers:Melee in my castles. Enough melee to hold the gap while the archers shoot stuff. But I generally use low tier troops to save money, since I'm a Nord by heritage (in this game) I've mostly been using Nord Footmen and Nord Huntsmen. Since I've started expanding away from my Nord villages I've been dumping in the local folk. None of my garrisons would stand up to a determined attack, but it's enough to hold out till I get there.
If the castle will be under constant attack, then yeah, top tier troops all the way. A mix of Rhodok Sharpshooters (for their toughness) and Vaegir Marksmen (for their speed), with a handful of Huscarls to hold the gap, would be a good defense. I keep my front line castles stocked with good troops, but that's mostly to resupply my army ... though a garrison of 400+ top tier troops is a good deterrent to attack too :p

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So what you mean is to put like 1-2-300 of recruits just to delay the autocombat, and have like 70-100 top tier troops for actuall defending (will this lead to having many recruits on the field, cause they are bloody awful)? And I assume that huscarls are the best defenders out of the meleetroops, though the swadian ones looks cool, but want the best buck out there?

I visited Rivacheg and found a 'strange armor' and 'strange sword'. What are these?

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My garrisons that are unlikely to be attacked are just T2 troops. My places on the front lines are mostly T4 and T5. As long as you can hold the narrow gap of a ladder or siege tower, then T2 archers will do the same thing as T5 archers, just more slowly. So yeah, the 100-150 T2's are just there as a delay until I can run my army up there. When you do take the field you end up with more trash troops in the mix, but due to how the random troop deployment works, I'm usually guaranteed enough T5 troops from my own army to hold the ladder. The T2 garrison would die either way, but they're a lot cheaper to maintain (and easier to replace) in a castle that's not a high priority for the enemy (and so won't be attacked often or at all).
Huscarls are probably one of the best melee castle defenders, though I haven't looked at the other troops stats. They're tough, and they usually have throwing axes.

chokke 说:

What troops should I put in my castle? JUst fill it up with rhodok sharpshooters with their awesome armor and high meleestats? Or should I mix some stuff?

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I generally put 3:1 Archers:Melee in my castles. Enough melee to hold the gap while the archers shoot stuff. But I generally use low tier troops to save money, since I'm a Nord by heritage (in this game) I've mostly been using Nord Footmen and Nord Huntsmen. Since I've started expanding away from my Nord villages I've been dumping in the local folk. None of my garrisons would stand up to a determined attack, but it's enough to hold out till I get there.
If the castle will be under constant attack, then yeah, top tier troops all the way. A mix of Rhodok Sharpshooters (for their toughness) and Vaegir Marksmen (for their speed), with a handful of Huscarls to hold the gap, would be a good defense. I keep my front line castles stocked with good troops, but that's mostly to resupply my army ... though a garrison of 400+ top tier troops is a good deterrent to attack too :p

Velax 说:

Yeah, the fief assigning system is a joke that for whatever reason the developers refuse to fix. TweakMB is the only way I know of to fix it, but they haven't updated the tool for 1.131 yet.

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It has been updated for 1.131 recently. I just (finally) upgraded my game from 1.125 because they put out the new version

CriticallyAshamed 说:

Praven's final round tends to worry me. Sometimes which lance hits first just seems really random and I play on full difficulty, so it's an instant KO.

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If you're worried about a KO in a 1v1 with lances, aim for the horse. Your lance will hit the enemy horse before their lance will hit your body (the horse extends several feet in front of the rider). Once they're unhorsed it's not too difficult or dangerous.


I hate the Nord Tournies. Axe spam is a pain. 1v1 isn't too bad, but in larger groups my side always dies too quickly so I'm left with a 1v4+, and with their axes cutting through my shield so quickly and with the knockdown on the axe, I don't last long.
I'm also wary of mixed Tournaments, where they mix foot archery with everything. Horse archery is fine since I have the mobility to gain distance; but when on foot it seems like I'm always matched vs a shielded opponent, and my skill with a bow is so bad that it all comes down to luck. If they gave archers a sword like the crossbowmen it would be a different story, though I guess I should just be glad archers at least have knives now  :p

munchiepoo 说:

i've just captured some Nord Lords,wonder if I capture EVERY nord lord,they cant fight back?

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Yep. Then you'll just have to deal with the troops already in the castles. It makes the last fight a lot easier though, instead of having all the Lords stuffed into a single castle/town, you'll just have a few.


Nothing much has changed in my game. I've taken a few Rhodok castles, but they're still putting up a tough fight. Thanks to my surgeon I'm not losing very many troops, but the final battle in the room is touch and go since I'm usually left with the dregs of my army.

Mastermind 说:

I say Nords. Why? Because of the natural border called sea, makes it easier to defend stuff afterwards.

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With a very distance second being Rhodok or Vaegirs.

onarum 说:

Even apart from the enemy faction troops, I read in the wiki that you have to constantly patrol the area, or else bandits will bring it down, now in a game where you have to keep constantly moving that sounds troublesome... all of that makes the fiefs virtually useless, you'll be lucky to get 1 week worth of rents before someone effin raids the place....

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That's not accurate. Your village CAN become infested with bandits, but they're not the ones patrolling the map, it's a scripted event (on a timer, every x amount of days the game checks a roll, if you lose the roll you get bandits... or something like that). As far as patrolling bandits, they will never attack/loot a town/castle/village, unless you have a mod that gives them that ability.

So in short, you don't have to stay around your village.


Other Lords WILL raid it however. It's just a natural effect of war. You can build improvements to the village that help with this, but they won't stop it.

If you look under Manage on the main village screen, you're given a list of stuff you can build. The Messenger Post will send you a message every time a Lord starts raiding your village. It's a pop up window which pauses the game, without the Messenger Post you just have to watch the event chat log to see your village name. Then there's the Watch Tower which increases the sight radius of the village (the message in the event log that says "Enemy patrols spotted around X") but also doubles the time it takes for a Lord to raid your village. With both of these, I can usually reach my village before they finish raiding it. And you only lose the wealth level if they finish raiding, if you chase them off or kill them, the village remains the same (as far as I know).

If your village gets raided, go raid an enemy village. You can make more cash raiding that village than you would have gotten from taxes from your village that week. What I like to do is see who raids my villages (the event log will tell you this), click on their name to open their info screen, find one of their villages, and go raid it in revenge 

dormammu 说:

Thinking about building some additions to my fief, but I can't find Artimenner anywhere.  He's probably hanging out with the Khergits.  Might just give myself engineering and be done with it.

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That guy is elusive. He was the last NPC I recruited into my party and he took forever to find.