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Looking at it now, I find it isn't silly. It's outright stupid. My apology to funk, he at least he answered MY question (which is of course still open).

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Laiska-Jaakko 说:

(...) fortunately there is always someone who can answer your question.(...)

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Brilliant post.

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Yeah, I misinterpreted his post at first. How silly of me.

RIDE THE TIGER!!

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It must be growled loud and as so that your voice breaks a little from the gurgling and grunting.

Also as 'ride the tiger, men.'

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Jhessail 说:

Ja kyllä suomalaiset ja saamelaiset erotettiin toisistaan. Karjalaisetkin olivat oma rotunsa siihen aikaan.

Tosin hädintuskin sivistyneitä barbaareja oltiin, mutta mitäs sitten?

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... Rotu?

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Laiska-Jaakko 说:

Jos tämä siis muodostetaan siten, että Ruotsi, Norja ja Tanska alistetaan Suomen osaksi, niin siinä tapauksessa annan asialle luvan. Minua ainakin kaivelee yli 700 vuotta Ruotsin (ja Venäjänkin) orjana olo.

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Olet kyllä pirun vanha tyyppi, kun voit ottaa tuollaisen asian henkilökohtaisesti.

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Eikös kokemuksen syvää rintaääntä tulisi kuunnella? 

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*kohauttaa olkiaan*

Okei, taisin päästää irti arvaamattomia voimia.

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Laiska-Jaakko 说:

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tavener, we were under swedish rule. The Swedes wanted to make it very clear theirs is a nation (or a lifeform) superior to ours. So, they put Swedish nobles in Finland. To my knowledge, there is only one noble family with an actual Finnish name and that is Kurki, which means crane in english.
  According to story, a man known as Matti Kurki fought for the Swedish king. One day, Matti had led his forces to meet the Russians. The Russians had superior numbers so Matti negociated to engage with Pohto, the Russian(/Karelian) lieutenat/leader, in Holmgang. You are presumably Scandinavian, so I trust you know what Holmgang is. Anyway, Matti fought Pohto and won and the Russian army retreated. The Swedish king was pleased with Matti, so he ennobled him.

To add salt to the injury however, you might want add texts to the Swedish lords talks about how they find the Finns pathetic and how they pity the lords who "have live in Österland (=Finland), which is such a poor province". They probably won't even distinguish us from the Sami, who didn't historically get much respect from anybody.

Despite all the offensiveness, I would find these texts amusing, even if in a masochistic way.

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Voi meitä sorrettuja!
Ihanko katkeruuttasi kirjoitit tuollaisen litanian ketjuun, joka on todettu jo pariin otteeseen turhaksi?

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Voi minua katkeraa!
Ihanko tylsyyttäsi kirjoitit tuollaisen nokkelan pokkelan comebackin - ja vieläkin - ketjuun, joka on todettu jo pariin otteeseen turhaksi?

tavener, we were under swedish rule. The Swedes wanted to make it very clear theirs is a nation (or a lifeform) superior to ours. So, they put Swedish nobles in Finland. To my knowledge, there is only one noble family with an actual Finnish name and that is Kurki, which means crane in english.
  According to story, a man known as Matti Kurki fought for the Swedish king. One day, Matti had led his forces to meet the Russians. The Russians had superior numbers so Matti negotiated to engage with Pohto, the Russian (or Karelian in some versions) lieutenant/leader, in Holmgang. You are presumably Scandinavian, so I trust you know what Holmgang is. Anyway, Matti fought Pohto and won and the Russian army retreated. The Swedish king was pleased with Matti, so he ennobled him. I've gotten the impression this would've happened in either the 1300s or 1100s.

To add salt to the injury however, you might want to add texts to the Swedish lords talks about how they find the Finns pathetic and how they pity the lords who "have to live in Österland (=Finland), which is such a poor province". They probably won't even distinguish us from the Sami, who didn't historically get much respect from anybody.

Despite all the offensiveness, I would find these texts amusing, even if in a masochistic way.

Jos tämä siis muodostetaan siten, että Ruotsi, Norja ja Tanska alistetaan Suomen osaksi, niin siinä tapauksessa annan asialle luvan. Minua ainakin kaivelee yli 700 vuotta Ruotsin (ja Venäjänkin) orjana olo.

Olin jälleen kerran vähän aikaa tyyliin "Kamoon Laiskis, älä vastaa siihe. Mitä ikinä sä vastaatki siihen, joku muu on sen jo sanonut", mutta vastasinpa kuitenki.

Okei, olet aika selvästi murrosikäinen. Ja suoralta kädeltä voin sanoa, että: "Poika, sä et oo aitoa misantrooppia vielä nähnytkään."

Somewhere along the line, sä tuut ymmärtämään maailmaa. Tai et. Mutta joka tapauksessa, alat huomata, että maailma ei ole niin paha paikka. Aivan niin: tulet huomaamaan, että maailma on itse asiassa aika hilpeä paikka.

On ihmisiä, jotka elävät nykyäänkin yhteiskunnissa, joissa on keskiaikaiset lait ja kulttuuri. Heitä tulee sivistyneisiin maihin, joissa he rupeavat opettamaan paikallisille, mitenkä oikeasti pitää olla.

On ihmisiä, jotka kaiken todistusaineistonkin edessä uskovat jyrkästi, että pilvissä asuu joku näkymätön mies, joka on suunnitellut KAIKEN.

On ihmisiä, jotka menevät ammuskelemaan paikkoihin, joissa on paljon väkeä ja odottavat saavansa sillä aikaan suuren, maailmanlaajuisen poliittisen reformin.

On ihmisiä, jotka huomaavat oman kansansa olevan maailman pateettisin ja ryhtyvät johdonmukaisesti sepittämään 'oikeaa' historiaa.

On ihmisiä, jotka uskovat, että jumala tai alienit tekisivät itsensä tiedetyiksi ihmiskunnalle yhden ainoan henkilön tai 'profeetan' kautta.

On ihmisiä, jotka uskovat, että maailmaa hallitsee rakastava ja kaikkivoipa pilvimies. Ja maailma on silti pullollaan vääryyttä.

Huomaat, että raamatusta saisi tosi awesomen kertomuksen, jos olettaa, että vanhan testamentin jumalan olevan valehteleva, pikkumainen ja ilkeä jumala, joka sitten muuttuu stalinistiseksi isä aurinkoiseksi tapattamalla oman poikansa (vaikka kaikkivoipa olento voisi toki vain napsauttaa jumalaisia sormiaan ja puff, synnit veks. Mutta tällöinhän kukaan ei kuolisi ja eihän se käy). Kansalaiset Uskovaiset uskovat, että hän aidosti välittää heistä, kun todellisuudessa hän juonii aina lisää onnettomuuksia.

Huomaat, että ihmislajin historia on kahta asiaa: sotaa ja seksiä, jotka toistuvat spiraalisesti uudestaan ja uudestaan. Spiraalisesti, ei syklisesti.

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I don't want fictional books, neithersoldier memories ( hard to find in the eras i'm searching for )  . More some kind of historical analysis of the ways some people, countries were dominating in some the eras I want. So strategic/tactical is okay, but with an extrapolation to historical facts ( chinese dominations in some lands....)
War analysis are of course okay.
For example, if I want to understand why macedonians dominated in their lands at a defined moment, i would like to understand the military , political, social, natural..........reasons.

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Concerning those Macedonians, I found a very good book. It's Alexander the Great at War by Ruth Sheppard. It starts out detailing the backgrounds of Alexander's life, like the political history of the Greek states and the Persian empire up to that point. I was shocked to learn the Spartans had, for a long time, been "in bed with the Persians" (not literally of course).

Fine, you want insults befitting of a medieval culture? How bout this: "My **** on your forehead!"

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I had an idea about building large factories and then use them to rapidly build 10.000 JAS Gripen jets, and just fly across the baltic and bomb the crap out of them. Yes, Sweden vs. Russia, round (what is it now, 8?). The last time you took Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, and you degraded us from being the superpower of the north to nothing. Well, we have been saving ourselves for 200 years now, it is about time we STRIKE BACK!

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Piss off, Gule. Finland is its own sovereign for the first time in centuries and, along with Estonia, the last bastion of the Uralics. You and we have over seven hundred years worth of unfinished business. You take us for booze-smelling barbarians, but you forget that our army is bigger than yours, Norway's, Denmark's and the Baltic countries combined. ? Remember my ancestor, Jaakko Ilkka, who led the Finnish rebels? All of whom your people slaughtered 'cos we just can't have those Uralics live just little more comfortably.
  Sweden's fall from grace is rather a divine retribution, you well deserve it. As for the business with the Russians, its our business. A smackdown must be brought unto the other Indo-european menace also. They tried to destroy us with their Russianisation-policy. They will also pay for the lives lost in the Winter War and the Continuation War. And for having interfered with our politics during the Cold War. And for still russianising the last few Uralic groups left in Russia. And for not being able to admit the fact that you weren't the good guys of WWII. And of course... for ruining our Karelia.
  As for those turncoat Hungarians who refuse to accept relation to us - instead being in favor of being related to the Turks, or even more ludicrously with the Sumers - I pity them. Making up tenuous claims to be related the Turks and Sumers. Sure, we aren't empire-builders or creators of civilization. We can't change that! But I ask of the Hungarians: What good is it to be the heirs of a fallen empire? It's like with the Italians: They like to identify themselves as the descendants of the glorious Rome from Augustus' days et cetera, so they won't have to face the fact that they suck. Indeed, they bear more resemblance to the debauched, corrupt, spineless latter-day Romans, who just paid everyone to not hurt them and who eventually got annihilated by people who actually were awesome.

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Just kidding people, I'm not all that fanatic. And a special apology to the Italians here. I don't hate you; just stop getting all riled up with the fascism and face the fact that you are not "Roma Gloriosa" and never will be.

Anyways, thanks for Sensei and the rest for reminding me that we Uralics can still at least put up a protest against Indo-european oppression.

By the way, I don't see how an angel would provide the Army of Hell. It would make sense if it was a demon or a devil offering that. An angel would of course provide the army of heaven.

But then again, these things don't exist.

Indeed I know the Khergits are based mongols. Savvy? However, as the Mongols, to my knowledge, had no distinct mongol cities/towns (exception Karakorum) they don't completely match Khergits. Secondly, the Mongols were rather briefly in Europe (exception Russia) while the Ottomans were in Europe for multiple centuries. Case Closed.


I thank you for the question. I was never big into the graphics department, learning in my Console Wars days that good graphics do not make a good game. So, set better graphics to be the lowest priority.
While I'm ill versed in historical European MA, to name a few asian ones:
Kuk Sool Won
Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu
(I believe Kashima Shinryu also incorporates two-weapon fighting.)
Hyoho Niten Ichi Ryu (albeit battlefield use is uncertain)
Kalaripayattu
Okinawan Kobudo (through that, some styles of Karate: implementation of dual sais, dual tonfas etc.)
Kali or Escrima
Quite a few. Case Closed.

Highly unlikely. Musashi is known to have frequented lords and princes. Case Closed.


He didn't charge out to kill everything that moves. He does not match the profile of a psycho mass murderer.
I understand if you don't hold him in high regard. But would you please keep that opinion to yourself?

Really? I figured the command system was too primitive.

Don't you feel bad at all that the only existing tactic in this game is "lol CHAREG!!!!111"?

The backspace tactics screen, as of now, is very inefficient. When defending in a siege, if you accidentally command the archers in any way, the give up their tactical positions at the two sides of the ladder/tower bridge, and it is irreversible.
  Or, if you have an infantry army on the steppes/plains fighting against cavalry, there's no way to tell your men to huddle up and assume a formation, which would be the only sensible tactic in the situation.

Me, I'm in favor of adding tactical elements (read depth) to the game.