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Ich meine es gibt textlich keinen Unterschied zwischen M&B: Warband 1.143 und M&B: Warband 1.153.

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Ah... 

Hatte ich missverstanden, da die aktuelle WFaS-Version die 1.143 ist. Nehme alles zurück und behaupte das Gegenteil. Ist dann aber auch klar, weil TaleWorlds bei einem Versionssprung in dieser Phase wohl keine Textkorrekturen mehr vornehmen wollten, da waren die mit anderen noch übrig gebliebenen Bugs beschäftigt.

Hi +Varsung+

Danke für die Info, aber sie stimmt nicht so ganz, was das "textlich sind keine Unterschiede zwischen 1.143 und 1.153" betrifft.

Bei den Vanilla-Versionen von Mount & Blade 1.011 sowie Warband 1.153 war der gleiche Übersetzer am Werk (gleicher Stil, gleiche Ausdrücke, "arms" = "Arme", etc.), aber für With Fire and Sword 1.143 hatten sie einen anderen Übersetzer am Start, der etwas professioneller und mit wesentlich weniger Fehlern gearbeitet hat, auch was z.B. die technischen Begriffe angeht wie  "anisotrop" statt "anisotropisch". Sind zwar Kleinigkeiten und einzeln gar nicht der Rede wert. Aber wenn das gehäuft auftritt, ist irgendwann "Oh my god!" erreicht. Jedenfalls für mich.

Aber darum geht's mir nur am Rande. Fehlerfreie Übersetzung ist natürlich was schönes und lenkt nicht so vom Spiel ab, aber genauso wichtig für die Immersion sind Dialoge, die rund und natürlich klingen. Ist so ähnlich wie Merlin-style-TV versus Braveheart-Kino 

Also, ich meine, bei den ursprünglichen Mount & Blade-Dialogen (und anderen Textstellen) ist wesentlich mehr drin und ich werde mal antesten, was da vielleicht noch rauszuholen ist. Klar, ohne die Aussagen oder den Inhalt selbst zu ändern...

Gute Idee, allerdings sind Übersetzungskorrekturen für Mount&Blade 1.011 und M&B:Warband 1.143 schon vorhanden.

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Danke für den Hinweis, wusste ich noch nicht. Andererseits gibt's z.B. schon einige TC's mit sehr ähnlichen Themen für die M&B-Spiele, und trotzdem werkeln Leute weiter an eigenen Versionen, weil sie eigene Vorstellungen haben. Das vergrößert ja u.a. auch die Auswahl für die Spieler 

Saludos.

Hello, last round from my part...

I've got Warband up and running  Seems as if the troublemaker was my firewall, though I don't have no idea why. When I installed the game the first time, I gave green light to the Warband executables, but it seems that wasn't enough. This time I disabled the firewall during activation process and everything worked out fine.

Okay, I'm gonna quit the forum for now and start my first Warband battle - yes 

Saludos.

Hello again, got some good news - especially for you, krakpot 

Finally I got a reply from [email protected] (they told me it took so long 'cause they had a National Holiday earlier this week. I have no reason not to believe this, so that's okay with me now).

They suspected a typo in the 4x4 serial key I got from Steam and confirmed that normally the installation should work the way I tried it (see post above). Actually I'm pretty sure there was no typo, but in the end you never know...

Quote: "If the error message says it's not a valid key, it usually indicates a typo. Because it's not possible that the key you get from Steam is not a valid one. Are you absolutely sure you've typed the serial key correctly? Also, you don't need to activate your game via internet anymore if you download the installers from our site, which you did, you just need to enter your 4x4 serial when the game asks you to."

We agreed that I'll send them my key so they could examine it with their own tools. Because one thing is for sure: I downloaded the installer from their page and it insisted in activating the game via internet and gave me the "Not valid" greeting.

Well, if anybody got the same problem, I strongly suggest to contact the support. Seems as if I was wrong in fearing they would behave the same way as many other so-called support teams 

Hope this info was helpful to somebody. I'll post if in the end I was able to play Warband without Steam or if not.

Saludos.

Thanx, krakpot 

If I find out something useful, I'll leave the info here. I guess there are more than two people who've got this problem.

See you...

What a pity, no reply... but thanks anyway, I'm sure somebody from the community tried at least. In contrast to the support that didn't answer till now... 

Send them one more mail, and as I think it could maybe be interesting for others to see how they handle this kind of request, here's what I wrote:

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Hello... my last attempt to receive an answer. I think, 3 mails should suffice from my part. You know the problem I have with my Warband copy (above I left the mails I sent you before). And as I got no reply, I tried to solve it by myself. Browsing the official forums, I found a solution that they described in different threads, but unfortunately it didn't work for me, though I don't know why.

I left a thread in the forum asking for help, but until now nobody could tell me something in this regard. That's what I posted:

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1. I wouldn't bother you with all this stuff, if Warband was only sold via Steam, but it's not like that. There are retail versions and direct download versions that work without a Steam account.

2. If buying that boxed version had been only my fault because of inattention, I would shut up and stop complaining, but I'm talking also about a wrong and obviously misleading information in the manual.

So at least you contributed to this confusion. Now I'm looking for a solution and sending you my third mail, but nothing happens. It's not as if I'm acting like a mad bull, running around and talking bad about your service. But you have the possibilities to give me some help or at least respond with a "Sorry, mate, can't do anything in this case".

Not even to respond is the worst behaviour you can show to a customer and could place you on the same level with many other companies that don't give a damn for a consumer as soon as he has paid the product.

Well, let me know if you can do something concerning my - legally - acquired serial key and a corresponding installation without Steam or go on playing hide-and-seek. Your decision... Maybe you think that the few Euros I paid aren't worth a fuss like that, but I guess both of us know that this is not the point.

Thanks at least for receiving my mails (I hope they didn't end up in the spam folder) and have a nice day.
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The situation is kind of disappointing, but okay, maybe I should return to the first M&B or even better, look for another good game that doesn't deal neither with Steam nor with a fake support.

Saludos.

Yes, just now I found the Module System Documentation Thread. Nice...    So I've got two solutions to one "problem" now. Not bad in this kind of newbie situation.

Thanks a lot for your answers, saludos.

Hi, maybe I shouldn't interfere here, 'cause it's my first day on the job, i.e. I registered today in this forum, and I just stumbled accidentally into this thread.

I recently opened another thread with a kind of noob question and I'm glad someone provided me with a quick answer and an apparently good solution. Maybe this kind of help will result in a mod for the public someday, or maybe not.

I agree totally with your point of view, ccllnply, "At the moment you're representing everything that is bad in gaming communities." I was a bit shocked by the statement of MadVader, 'cause I think this kind of attitude sounds very arrogant. Or do people need a certificate as a public benefactor to ask for help in a forum? For me, this kind of questions are very useful, because I can learn from the answers.

So thanks from my part, too, to IrishGaming2011 for providing the question and to Somebody for the answer 

Saludos.

Oops - what a fast reply  . Okay, I'll get that notepad++ and give it a try. Thanks very much for your help.

Saludos.

True, and without backups you shouldn't even touch a file. Good ol' basic rule. But sometimes you don't notice immediately that a file got buggy and if you go on working with such a file - with or without backups - you can loose a lot of work.

But I was referring to another thing - I read something about M&B text files opened and saved with notepad (and not via the module system) could get corrupted (??!!??). I cannot believe this is true, but I wanted to make sure and to know if someone had made bad experiences with this.

Thanks