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  1. Night Ninja

    Drunk rape justified?

    Mage246 说:
    Wouldn't it have been better to get through this post without making any derogatory slurs against women?

    Hey, if you're a woman and you get someone innocent into trouble for something like this, you're a *****, end of story. **** political corrrectness or your score on the oppression olympics, there's a line beyond which you deserve every slur that people can devise.
  2. Night Ninja

    Drunk rape justified?

    The problem in many nations is that an accusation might as well be a conviction. You might eventually be exonerated, but you'll always be known as the guy who raped someone.

    Under-reporting of rape is a massive issue that needs to be addressed, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you ought to be tarring innocent men with the same brush as the actual criminals.

    Jhessail's comfortable having the odd innocent man get convicted if it means all women who lodge such accusations get redress. I take the opposite stance and figure that willingness to assume the guilt of the accused doesn't necessarily produce a better outcome because there's plenty of *****es who'll exploit that bias in the law, and that there's plenty of other social pressures that prevent women from reporting rape.


  3. Night Ninja

    Drunk rape justified?

    The thing about being biased against the man all the time is that the women bloody know this and will exploit it. As someone living in a nation where the default is an assumption of guilt, I've got a very different perspective on the issue. Women can utterly ruin a man without the man ever committing a crime, just because they happen to feel a tinge of morning-after regret. And hell, it doesn't even need to extend that far. You can have your life dumped into the toilet just because you happened to be standing beside a woman who got felt up.

    Kissaki 说:
    No means no, but women want a man who doesn't take no for an answer. That is sooo post-modern.

    Let's pretend that I'm an autistic mother****er (ohnoes ableist gendered slur!1~ wat a ****lord). Can you clarify what you mean by this?

    Kissaki 说:
    Sounds a lot like me. Except in my case it is I'd rather not make a move and come across as someone too obtuse to get the hint than to make a complete ass of myself. But I've already got a girlfriend, so that is probably for the best.

    I don't have a girlfriend now, so there's that. The possibility of awkwardness and making an ass of yourself exists whenever you attempt to proposition someone. I thought that was clear enough that it could be left unsaid. It's the **** beyond that line that worries me.

    Kissaki 说:
    Exactly.  It isn't rape simply because you regret it afterwards. If so, there are just as many male victims out there as female. It isn't rape because you were drunk. It isn't rape because you feel guilty afterwards for cheating. It isn't rape because the cheque bounced. It isn't rape because you got her pregnant. People do things they come to regret while drunk, that is one of the risks that come with getting drunk. And most people are level-headed enough to realize that stupid things you do while drunk is simply stupid things you do while drunk. So long as no one got hurt, just shrug your shoulders and say "live and learn".

    That was me, actually.

    The argument I cited goes like this: if inebriation equates to an inability to give consent, shouldn't it also translate to a lack of culpability for any crimes undertaken while your judgement is similarly impaired? The common argument is that an impairment of judgement equates to an inability to give consent, so why doesn't that carry over to other criminal actions?
  4. Night Ninja

    Drunk rape justified?

    Oi. :razz:

    I did you the courtesy of not being a pedantic **** about it.
  5. Night Ninja

    Drunk rape justified?

    Pharaoh Llandy 说:
    Good point. And certainly, a person who commits a crime whilst under the influence (such as getting in a car and hitting somebody) is responsible for their actions and is punished for them.

    I think the main difference is, in this case, the drunk person in question is a victim, not an offender. If it's a clear-cut example of a man raping somebody who is too drunk to give consent, then yes, it's definitely a crime. But as mentioned before, the lines do get blurrier if both people are drunk, or if the woman is being coy to the extent that she doesn't outright say 'no' (ie, stringing the guy along a bit).

    To expand on that, the line's muddied further when women are expected to play hard to get, even with men with whom they'd consent. When's reluctance or resistance in earnest, and when is it a product of societal expectations?

    I'm beta enough that this **** will likely never be a real problem for me though. I'd much rather not make a move and come across as someone too obtuse to get the hint than push the boundary too far and get my ass thrown in jail for it.

    AWdeV 说:
    I think there's a difference betwee nclimbing behind the wheel drunk and getting raped.

    In the latter, you are doing something. You are doing something that can have a direct impact on yourself and anybody nearby.
    In the first, something is being done to you. Someone else is doing something to you that you may not be able to resist.

    It's comparable between getting drunk and punching a guy and getting drunk and being punched by a drunk *******. Even drunk, you can have control over yourself and you should have enough not to go punching people at random but you do not have any control over people punching others at random. You can't be expected to control people who randomly punch others and you can't be held responsible.

    If you have control over yourself while intoxicated, you ought to be able to retain sufficient judgement to give consent, no?

    AWdeV 说:
    And clothes don't change anything about it. If someone came up wearing the douchiest outfit possible that wouldn't give me any more justification to punch him than a girl wearing a short skirt justifies me raping her.

    Chapelle's pretty much in full agreement with people arguing against slut-shaming. He's just making a joke to explain why others think the way they do.
  6. Night Ninja

    Drunk rape justified?

    Late to the goddamn thread.

    On the discussion on slut-shaming earlier in this thread, I'm surprised that Dave Chapelle hasn't come up.

    Can anyone explain why a drunk person is still responsible for criminal actions (driving, assault, public disorderliness, etc) in the eyes of the law while being incapable of giving consent? This came up in another discussion and nobody was able to give a satisfactory explanation; I then posed the question to Cleaning Agent to the same result.

    It seems to me that judgement that's impaired to the point of inability to consent would extend to an inability to restrain violent urges and discern the criminality of any particular action. With that in mind, why isn't intoxication a mitigating factor for these offenses?
  7. Night Ninja

    What are you reading now?

    Isn't it based on the CoC RPG?

  8. Night Ninja

    Post *Your* Dream Women

    Goker 说:
    Do you guys have no knowledge on how to edit image sizes?

    Night Ninja 说:
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    Yes, but I like large images and bombing people with them in this thread. :razz:

    Jock 说:
    I, for one, welcome huge images of pretty women. Any chance you got nudes of her? >_>

    Sadly, no. You're welcome to google Amber Sym if you want noodz of a flaming hot hardbody though.
  9. Night Ninja

    What are you reading now?

    Just finished The Laundry Files while waiting for my next Dresden fix. It's going to be a long wait.

    The series is highly recommended, by the way. Some of the references in the older books haven't aged all that well, but they're still eminently readable.
  10. Night Ninja

    What made you laugh today? v.IV

    http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/
  11. Night Ninja

    Post *Your* Dream Women

    Hotlink because I'm a lazy bastard. Mahoosive image warning.

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  12. Night Ninja

    Post *Your* Dream Women

    Blead's 5 goes by Mia Sollis.

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  13. Night Ninja

    Mechwarrior Online

    Úlfheðinn 说:
    Lag shield can occasionally be annoying and appears worse for Euro players.

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I'm sorry, but there was no other way to express my sentiments. Try playing from SEA or Australia. :razz:
  14. Night Ninja

    Mass Effect 4?

    Call of Duty: Mass Effect.

    Maybe with more awkward 'moral' decisions and alien ****ing. I look forward to the r34 that the latter will spawn. :lol:
  15. Night Ninja

    Mechwarrior Online

    Quality PGI update schedule struck again this week.

    Also, I'm still seeing people in trial mechs alpha all day 'erry day. Someone needs to explain that trial mechs have no heat management ability whatsoever and require the careful staggering of weapons in a manner that the Legendary Founders would masturbate over.
  16. Night Ninja

    X-COM: Enemy Unknown remake

    Had a lot of fun, but the damn thing needs:

    1) A more developed tech tree with more sidegrades. As it stands everything's a straight upgrade, and you can usually research everything for the hell of it by the time you hit the midgame.
    2) Far more mission variety. Jeesus **** raiding UFOs get boring after you tech up to titan and plasma. Only reason I still did it was to get the Xavier achievement, but the RNG has not favoured me thus far.
    3) More options on the world map. What's the point of a remake if all it's going to do is ape the original slavishly in every respect? It's like having a Mass Effect remake and keeping the 'lolchoice' conversation wheels, Mako and stupidly obtuse inventory management.
    4) Less AI RNG shenanigans. I played it on normal at first, so this wasn't much of a factor. On Impossible Ironman mode, your squaddies are one-eyed quadriplegic Orks fighting against hordes of Daemon Princes and Vindicare Assassins. Suits me right for not believing AK47.
  17. Night Ninja

    Martial Arts

    Magorian Aximand 说:
    Are you operating under the assumption that "ordinary" martial arts don't contain free sparring practice?

    They might, but have you seen the standards? If that's what people hope to use in self-defense, I'd suggest that they bend over and hold their ankles. They'll be hurt less.
  18. Night Ninja

    Martial Arts

    Magorian Aximand 说:
    No, he doesn't have a point, because of the poor and pointless generalization he's making. He's discarding "marital arts" as a whole because of the existence of arts that have developed into sports (a consequence of the watering down of most martial arts so that they could "sell" in the US). You may end up in schools that don't teach you anything useful in a fight, but that doesn't mean that martial arts themselves are only for show or "rather useless". That's ignoring a good deal of history.

    Practitioners of combat sports (with the exception of tippy-tappy point sparring) are arguably better equipped than ordinary martial artists to handle themselves in a live confrontation, especially against singular opponents.

    Sure, their training involves a great deal of optimization to the ruleset, but the constant exposure to resisting opposition in a live and fluid environment has given them a heck of a lot of practice. 't3h d34dl3h' might be nice to talk about and all, but the inability to train properly in an alive manner kills any chance you might've had in an actual fight. You're essentially entering a confrontation with no practice clocked against live opposition, whereas the sport fighter has a damned solid foundation in sportive technique and can also resort to 'dirty' fighting.
  19. Night Ninja

    Mechwarrior Online

    Wellenbrecher 说:
    Night Ninja 说:
    Casuals might just save this goddamn game from the ****ing TT autists, bronies and clantwats. They can't seem to do **** about the severe care of rectocranial inversion that the devs have though.
    Please explain :lol:
    That sounds rather entertaining.

    Well, to keep the casual dollar, the devs need to ensure a certain minimal level of progression. Right now, you need to grind for at least 25 games or so in a ****ty trial mech i.e. stock build in order to get enough money to afford the crappiest light mech in the game.

    The hardcore TT autists (mostly Legendary founders) don't want anyone else who doesn't pay out the nose to be any good at the game, and it'll be interesting to see how the devs address this.  They certainly don't want anything deviating from the tabletop rules.
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