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This is not the place for this and this is not the way to handle a problem concerning an admin.  PM Armagan  concerning the issue and please include all pertinent info.  If you are not comfortable doing that, feel free to PM me and I will pass it along.

-Narcissus

I believe you are saying that you are currently using 1.105?

If not, the 1.105 download is located here.

If you have already updated, then hopefully someone else will be able to help you soon (I've not played multi-player yet).

Narcissus

The comment about needing to move the 'old ball and chain' was a reference to my current game. 

Hang in there and don't worry, I'm sure the patch will be here soon ... and probably a few more will roll out after that.

Narcissus

Simple answer to a simple question:  the patch will arrive when it gets here.

I apologize if that sounds harsh, but it is the simple fact.  As soon as it gets finished, it will be available and that is, most likely, the only time-frame you will receive.

TaleWorlds has a history of working hard to get fixes out as quickly as possible.  I understand that it can be frustrating (I NEED to move my wife!), but a fixed time for the next patch is difficult to give due to a myriad of reasons.

Narcissus

Is that a request? 

Orion, I haven't seen you around that much and when I have ... didn't notice anything bad.  If you would like to point to any specific bannable offenses, however ...

Narcissus

I'm back and sorry for being gone so long ... I had the computer packed up to move and then we stayed several more days and I was too pissed to have someone come unpack it for me.

Anyways, I see that I am on several people's LOS.  I can't argue with that at all as I single-handedly got Arch killed for nothing.  Believe me to be a wolf if you want, but I truthfully thought he was a wolf.  Let me explain why:

Arch was of a habit of using other people's quotes to further his 'agenda'.  He wouldn't quote enough to show the real meaning of their post, but just enough to make it seem that his point was correct.  The reason I noticed that, was because he was doing it to me.  Then, after I had 'comitted' my vote to him ... I started noticing that most everyone was doing the same thing.  I started second-guessing myself at that point, but couldn't back off because in doing so ... I was dooming myself to the noose.  I really was still fairly sure of his guilt, as well.

Believe that or not, its true.

As far as my LOS right now ... I need to go back through this huge post and check.  I already stated that if I was wrong, I'd vote for myself and I'll stand by that if you guys feel that I should.

Narcissus

Sorry for the delayed reply as I have been super busy today.

Yes, Bryce received a three day ban.  Yes, I was the one that handed it out.  No, it wasn't for revenge in relation to the game.

Long story short:  I spoke to him privately about something that was said in the game, but not directly game related.  James reviewed every PM I sent and gave the 'ok' before I sent them.  After my PM, Bryce lost his marbles and wrote a huge reply where he started threatening me with harassment, reporting me, contacting Armagan, etc ... which was beyond absurd.  He also decided to make a post about me attacking his I.Q. in the brainstorming thread (I think that was where it was at).  I replied to him (again with the agreement of James) explaining that it wasn't harassment and that his actions were uncalled for, etc.  He then reported my PMs and claimed that I was harassing him in the report.

I spoke with Armagan and after he reviewed everything, agreed that I should handle the situation however I thought was best (which at the time was a ban).  I cooled off a bit (thanks to Janus), and then tried to settle things by telling Bryce the current situation and my idea of an easy solution:  that I would simply drop from the game as we would be unable to play together.

I did some running around that I needed to do for tonight and when I got back, I saw that he had reported my latest PM with more references to harassment.

I temp-banned him for three days with a message that stated that a PM sent by an admin to try and politely correct a problem was not harassment.

Now that I've said all that, I'm pretty upset that anyone would think I would resort to banning someone because of revenge in a game.  Reading that was beyond shocking.  I know that I'm not perfect and I know that I have been on edge recently because of the werewolf game, but that is no reason to think that I would pull a stunt like that.  I'm not the 'power-tripping' type.

Merentha 说:

Check out the gun control thread, he started getting very antagonistic there as well.

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Which I apologized for doing, and then explained why.  There is more to that issue than me being on edge because of the game, which I stated as well.

Merentha 说:

Anyhow, the PM rule was in place, and I don't know why it was ever relaxed, other than that Narc asked for it to be.  We've never had a problem with admins in the game before, don't see why we should now.

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The problem had nothing to do with an 'admin' playing in the game as James can vouch for.  Not only did I receive the 'ok' from James, but he also made comments that he agreed with me completely.  The screw-up here was not mine, and again had nothing to do with me playing the game (beyond Bryce holding a grudge on me because of it).  That is why he received a three day ban rather than a perm-ban.

So the revised, simple version:  Everything that was said through PM was not directly related to the game.  The storyteller agreed with all PMs.  Bryce went nuts.  Armagan gave the official 'stamp of approval' after reviewing things.  I tried a different, fairer aproach rather than banning him.  Bryce went nuts again.  Rather than a perm-ban he received a temp-ban because of the situation with the game making things extra emotional.

Hope that clears things up,

Narcissus

What type of dancing?

Narcissus

Relax and take deep breaths.  There will not be a banning rule as far as spelling and grammar is concerned.  Stores do not refuse service to people that speak gibberish and neither do we.

Having said that ... there is a little bit of common sense applied.  If it is getting out of hand and actually becomes a problem, then measures will be taken.

Everyone has been ribbing Kobrag (including me) about his spelling and grammar, but he has gotten to the point where I can actually read his posts without squinting and trying to piece them together.

If he continues getting better, great.  If not ... a few polite pokes to the ribs might help a bunch.

Narcissus

Mage246 说:

Oh my god! He capitalized the first letter! Too bad he didn't capitalize and put an apostrophe in "I'm" though.

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Focus on the postives.

I could read it without trying to decypher any cryptic, hidden messages.  That deserves kudos.

Narcissus

Kobrag 说:

Do you all really think im that bad?

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I've noticed a marked improvement.  You slip up way too often, but you have been doing much better.

Narcissus

This day hasn't ended yet?  Holy crap.

I have been alive one day ... yet it feels like a week or ten.  Ingo must have passed me a toad or two. 

Narcissus

P.S. I suck at games like Dom3 because I always play with a cheat god and nation.

okiN 说:

Narcissus 说:

Just curious ... is this a normal oKiN playstyle?  He is obviously around as he has two gaming threads alive and kicking (dwarf fortress and EU3).

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That's Dom3, not EU3. And no, this isn't my normal playstyle, but you guys are churning out so much text I can't keep up - I'm studying, here. This is even worse than the last game. And like it or not, those two threads take priority as I'm running them.

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Ahhh, sorry about that.  I recently bought them both and have been going back and forth between them, hence the mix-up.

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James 说:

I PMed okiN, and he said he wasn't playing as you all went "ape****". If he doesn't respond to this vote, I'll replace him.

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Well, I could just go with a hunch and place a semi-random vote, but frankly you might be better off replacing me.

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I'd rather you could stick around, but if you don't have the time to keep up ... noone can argue with that.  A more active player could never hurt.

Narcissus

I'm guilty of using a few of those. 

Anyways, to get this back on topic:  The difference between using an abbreviation and not even attempting to get your meaning across are quite different.  Taking a minute to clean up your writing (especially when your primary language is English) isn't really too much to ask.  I have more problems figuring out what certain individuals say in English sometimes, than I do with posts that aren't even in a language I speak.  Copy/paste into online translation sites has often helped me, but there are no sites that translate complete nonsense (which is often what those types of posts are).

Narcissus

I was close ... closer to a teacher than an actual record keeper, but close just the same.  :dance:

So no new votes?  No more speculations and debates?

Narcissus

Just curious, but why do you have a religious term under your avatar, Ingo?  Isn't a catechist a religious recordkeeper?

Narcissus

Just curious ... is this a normal oKiN playstyle?  He is obviously around as he has two gaming threads alive and kicking (dwarf fortress and EU3).

Narcissus

Or a simple villager that doesn't want to die and is desperate.  Don't forget that option because it is just as viable as the others.

Narcissus

Rathyr 说:

Does that mena that there will be no time limit, or that there will be a random, unknown time limit? 

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No time-limit per se ... just that when he feels like it isn't changing and/or moving enough, he will end it.  Thats the way I took it anyways.

Narcissus

Dearest Bryce,

WELCOME TO THE TRUTH.

You just said that Arch has done nothing suspicious ... yet it wasn't that many posts ago that you agreed that his continued vote on Rathyr looked suspicious.  How many posts ago do you think it was when you said that Arch looked suspicious and it made no sense when he first changed targets and went after him?  That is just off the top of my head ...

That is almost as good as your I.Q. statement ... well, not really.  Still funny though.. 

Merentha 说:

Why the hell should you be allowed to PM players for the express purpose of communicating with someone from the game, about the game?

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It isn't directly about the game, hence the reason why I asked.  If it involved the game in anything other than as a reference, I wouldn't have even asked.

Narcissus