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I'm working with the Floris Mod Pack and have modified a unit line within the Sword Sisters with Morgh's Tools. Sword Sisters in Floris spawn in taverns like regular mercenaries. I would like only the ones I modded to spawn. I used the "inactive" flag on the other sword sisters but they still spawn - naked. They spawn without any equipment.

How do I stop them from spawning altogether?

Hello again and thank you for the help last time, I got the womenfolk screaming. Now I want to stop their cohorts from spawning. The ladies in question are Sword Sisters that (at least in the Floris Mod) appear in taverns to be hired as mercenaries. I want only the line that I modified through Morgh's Tools to show up. I checked "Inactive" in Morgh's on all but the ones I want but they still show up - naked. I'm tempted to just change their faction to Undeads since this mod doesn't use any undead so perhaps they won't spawn...? But I don't know what else that could affect. At this point I don't want to delete them, I just want to stop them from spawning in the tavern. Couldn't care less if they spawned somewhere else though.

Wow, you look very nice! Here are the A7_Valkyrie Sword sisters I created with a bit of PoP armor and Noldor arrows:


As for getting them to shout in victory: I DID IT - with a little help from Somebody (that is literally his name) at The Forge. And now I'll tell anyone interested how to do the same. I did it for the expanded pack but you can (I believe) do the same for the other versions using their respective files.

1. Get the DevSuite (Thanks KuroNeko87!), the sounds you want (I took mine from Blood and Steel but am looking for more), Notepad++ (http://notepad-plus-plus.org/download/v6.7.html),  and MAYBE Python (I honestly don't know if I needed it, that's how inexperienced I am at this. I got it from http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,240255.0.html)

2. Load the sounds into the "Sounds" folder (found here: ...\MountBlade Warband\Modules\Floris Expanded Mod Pack 2.54\Sounds) in the mod and make sure they are all named "woman_victory_01" incrementing the number for however many there are. Example: woman_victory_01, woman_victory_02, woman_victory_03, etc.

3. Open module_sounds.py (found in: ...\MountBlade Warband\Modules\Floris Dev Suite 2.54\Source\Source - Floris Expanded Mod Pack\Module) in Notepad++ and search (ctl+f) for "man_victory". Copy that line and paste it in a new line below it. Change the names of the sounds it references to the ones you brought in.


4. Next, go to module_skins.py (also found in: ...\MountBlade Warband\Modules\Floris Dev Suite 2.54\Source\Source - Floris Expanded Mod Pack\Module) and open it up in Notepad++ as well. In it search for "voice_die". You'll find the sounds for guys first but hit it again and you'll get to the ladies. You should be taken to another part further down that says:
At the end of that line but BEFORE the green comments after the pound sign (#) paste the following:

5. Compile your work by double-clicking a file named "build_floris_expanded_mod_pack.bat" (found in: ...\MountBlade Warband\Modules\Floris Dev Suite 2.54\Build and Update batch-files). This will take a little while to run. Once it's done go to ...\MountBlade Warband\Modules\Floris Dev Suite 2.54\Compiled Files\Expanded and copy ALL of the files in there into ...\MountBlade Warband\Modules\Floris Expanded Mod Pack 2.54. Create a new game (perhaps not necessary but I dunno) and enjoy the lady-shouts.

Somebody 说:

Note the following in module_skins (where race/genders as well as spooky skeletons are defined).

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[(voice_die,"snd_man_die"),(voice_hit,"snd_man_hit"),(voice_grunt,"snd_man_grunt"),(voice_grunt_long,"snd_man_grunt_long"),(voice_yell,"snd_man_yell"),(voice_stun,"snd_man_stun"),(voice_victory,"snd_man_victory")], #voice sounds
[(voice_die,"snd_woman_die"),(voice_hit,"snd_woman_hit"),(voice_yell,"snd_woman_yell")], #voice sounds

Copy over the appropriate tuples and change the sound references.

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Thank you thank you thank you!!  The wife was very confused as to why I was jumping and clapping when the game crashed to desktop. "Ah," I say, "but did you HEAR it?! There was a victory cry right as the game crashed!"

I did what you said and got the ladies to at least START to shout in victory - I definitely heard it! - but then CTD. After thinking and searching for an answer and getting well into a new post laying out all of the things I have done so far I realized that maybe I SHOULDN'T have left out the newly compiled sounds.txt in preference to the one I modified earlier... So I took a look at them and lo and behold, the compiler is smarter than I gave it credit for and I'm the idiot. I didn't expect it to add the new sound files AND the event for which they apply all on its own.

So now, at 5:50am, I have screaming victorious women with no CTD!! Thank you very much Somebody!!

Now I'm headed back to the Floris forum to spread the word on getting the women to cheer!

I want to add female victory cries to the newest Floris Expanded Mod Pack. Not just add more or replace the existing ones, I need to add that they even get any. Right now women just thrust their hands into the air in eerie silence. Nowhere in sounds.txt or even just in the Sounds folder are any references to women victory cries. I have very little modding or programming experience and this little project is the height of my ambition.

I have read the entire first post in The Ultimate Introduction to Modding, searched the Forge and this thread as well as posted my question on the Floris forum. My brain is melted from trying to understand things well beyond my comprehension at this point.

I have the DevSuite for the pack complete with source files and what appear to be python compiling .bat files. Per instructions in the Modding introduction I have the python compiler and Modsys as well as Notepad++. I have the sounds I want to add as well.

I feel like I have all the tools I need to make this thing happen but I just don't know where to start. I took a stab at module_sounds.py and compiled it to no effect. I need someone to please at least give me a rough map of where I should be going.

Oh. 

Thank you!

(rummage, rummage)

Okay, I've added the line I want to module_sounds.py. Now I guess it's time to learn how to compile things... FORUM SEAAAARRRRRCH!!!

I don't have a "Source" folder. In fact, the only mod I have that HAS female victory sounds is Blood and Steel and it also the only one that has a Source folder. That folder is FILLED with about 120 .py files whereas neither Floris, Brytenwalda, nor Prophecy of Pendor have female victory sounds (at least not in their "Sounds" folder) OR a Source folder OR any discernable .py files. I downloaded all of these mods new within the last week.


I thought maybe I had found what I needed in the sounds.txt file. I added the sounds from Blood and Steel to the Sounds folder, added them to the list in sounds.txt, updated the number of definitions, and added an event thingy (don't know the terminology) at the bottom of sounds.txt, again updating the number of definitions. I mimicked the syntax I saw in the file (including the lower definitions using numbers for sounds 3 off of their line number), made up the "3000" reference after making sure there wasn't another one, and crashed the game a couple times before I updated the definition count. The game starts now and runs fine, all other sounds work but I still don't have any female victory cries.



I'm at a loss for why victory cries were left out for women, doubly so because out of 4 popular and well-made mods only 1 has them and that one has a structure unlike the rest. Was/is there something about Brytenwalda, Flors, and PoP that can't handle female victory cries? Where are the python files? Even M&B:W itself doesn't have any lone .py files. What am I missing here?

Twice at least before this issue has been brought up but with no resolution or even any comments addressing the concern:
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,213099.msg5223534.html#msg5223534

imgran 说:

A female victory cry.  Please.  The silence when you happen to have an all- or mostly-female force and win the fight is almost eerie.  I dunno if this is unique to me or what, but it drives me nuts.  At the very least someone like Matheld should let loose some kind of war-whoop when you win a fight.

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I am led to believe that if I can find the "module_sounds.py" file I'll be able to edit it and get what I'm looking for. That impression comes from a post in the Forge (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,317148.msg7525258.html#msg7525258) and a README file from a mod with more female sounds (available at http://www.nexusmods.com/mbwarband/mods/3905/?)

The README file in question:

The trouble is that there IS no module_sounds.py file in the Floris Mod pack. There's one in Blood and Steel and they even have women victory sounds but I can't very well just copy that over. Clearly the module_sounds.py file's functions are covered by something else in Floris and I just need to know where it is, how to get to it. I want to run and all-female army and the eerie silence upon victory weirds me out. I've done some programming so I understand that little things are important but that was C++ and about 15+ years ago.

I've been adding PoP stuff to Floris for a couple days and only got 1 crash at the beginning and that's because the second line in itemkinds1.txt (the number of items in the file) didn't get updated correctly when I added new things. I used this post to help:

Arvenski 说:

Heck with the tutorial. If you are moving items into Native, here's how (you can use any module you like,I'm just using Native for explanation)
Using OpenBRF, find the Brytenwalda .brf file with the armour you want to move and copy it to your Native Resource folder. Note the texture the armour uses,
(OpenBRF will tell you) and find that texture in your Brytenwalda Textures folder, and copy it to your Native Textures folder (be sure to copy any texture files with
the same name followed by .n, .normalmap, .s, .spec, .specular, .bump, and so on).In OpenBRF each model will have a name in a column on the left, (you may have found this out), now go to Brytenwalda Itemkinds1.txt, open it, press ctrl+f to search, and search for the name of the model of your armour, when you find it, copy the whole line plus the 3 or so one or two digit lines below the main line. Now go to Native Itemkinds1.txt, add 1 to the top number, go to the bottom of the page,and just above "end_items" paste your copy from the Brytenwalda file. Now in Native Module.ini, at the bottom,write the following: load_module_resource = (followed by the name of the .brf file you copied). And there you go.

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I followed the instructions regarding Itemkinds1.txt but to simplify the rest I copied ALL of the textures and ALL of the .brf files because I didn't want to learn how to use OpenBRF. I also copied all of the "load_module_resource" lines out of the PoP module.ini file and pasted it at the bottom of the Floris module.ini file. This is a very inefficient way of doing things from a programming standpoint  but not from a sanity and time standpoint. I've added a couple weapons, a shield, a horse, and about 8 sets of armor (including 2 female). Then I used Morgh's Tools to bring the stats of those items in-line with their place in the Floris world.


All that said, I have a (new) problem of my own I've yet to resolve: the complete lack of female victory cries. I have several from other mods but I can't get them to play. Sadly, I think this problem might need more than a quick and dirty txt edit. How do add their victory screams?

A Khergit siege with no helmet... Ballsy.

Northcott 说:

Up by 1 city: Curaw. Had Dhirim, too, but the Vaegir took that while the Swads were beating on the Nords. I forgot to mention that one while detailing a fraction of the beating the Nords have been taking. The Swadians are actually making something of a comeback, the Khergits were down to 2 cities at one point, but have rallied, but the Rhodoks and Vaegir are incredibly aggressive.

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Sooo... We're just about back to status quo, huh? Thousands of lives and months of war aaaaaand just about back the way it was. At least Aedvord is holding strong with his little piece of the puzzle.

Northcott 说:

It's why he hired a priest! Had to balance that bad juju.

This has been, hands down, the most aggressive game of Warband or Mount & Blade I've ever had.  I've never seen one NPC-run faction so consistently, thoroughly ganged-up on as the Nords have been. Even the Swadians don't normally take this kind of beating! So when I play through a month of game time, the massive flood of events that happens leaves me doing word wall dumps to try and keep up.  The game is currently in early February, so I've got a lot of notes to catch up on. I'll pick away at them over this week.

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And yet the north have only lost 1 city! That still puts you up by 2, IIRC... Screenie of the map?

And pace yourself, friend! We don't want to see you burn out!

Cue "Ain't no Rest for the Wicked" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBgp5aDH23g 

By this evidence we can conclude that Aedvord is either blessed in order to have survived so many engagements or he's reaping the punishments for his wicked ways of some time previous. 

Northcott 说:

At this moment, they are struggling to hold off the Swadians, Rhodok, and the Horde all at once. They fight bravely, but this war of attrition is beginning to take its toll.

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Northcott 说:

... until at the last they dueled before all. Some say it is foolhardy that the Norvordr did not stay his hand and give the king a victory, but Aedvord said he would be ashamed to dishonour his King's fighting spirit so.

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I'm not sure I can explain why but those two are my favorite passages from this newest entry! Maybe I like root for seemingly lost causes and the ultimate test between friends... I can't really say but regardless, another fine chapter.

I am curious though, why you didn't just combine the two above posts? They seem to go together as a chapter well enough or the second could be saved for an exciting start to the next chapter.

A 3-front war is a guaranteed loss of marshalship, sadly.    Too many villages getting raided, controversy going up, lords refusing to fight with you to protect their own lands... I'm sure such a stain is unwelcome to Norvordr and he is out of bed so soon to try and clear his name - and defend his holdings, lol!

First off: Thanks very much for the useful topic!

Now to the problem: I'm adding 37 items from Prophesy of Pendor to Floris for my personal entertainment and most of them worked without a hitch. Steps taken:
1. Copied ALL of the contents in PoP's resources folder into Floris' (no they weren't all needed but I didn't want to search through them all to find what I needed.)
2. Added "load_mod_resource = ???" for all of those resources in the Floris module.ini file
3. Copied all of the PoP textures into the Floris texture file
4. Copied the 37 items I wanted from the PoP item_kinds1.txt to Floris' and added 37 to the number at the top.

This resulted in all of the non-heraldic items coming through just fine. All of the heraldic items, however, (all of them shields - including a few already in Floris because I wasn't sure they were - but for a single piece of body armor: Heraldic Plate Armor) initially appeared without the standard green and black checkered pattern that is replaced by a lords'/player's banners when appropriate
I sorted it out with the shields by stabbing in the dark and finally changing a single number on each of them in item_kinds1.txt:

The Heraldic Plate Armor, however, has proven much more resilient to my COMPLETELY amateur modding attempts. Currently it appears as follows:

I attempted the same fix as worked on the shields by comparing the PoP item_kinds1.txt entry to working Floris examples but with no luck at all.
I then replaced everything below the first line of the armor's entry with a working example and it appeared to deform the armor. Next, I attempted to copy over the lines appearing to have to do with the armor in question in the PoP tableau_materials.txt into the same location in the Floris tableau_materials.txt (as suggested HERE) but it apparently displaced some other things and resulted in some ugliness. I immediately undid it.

So. How do I get this heraldic armor to work?

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I also used OpenBRF on the PoP resource files and could not find the armor in question though I'm not sure all 1100+ items were in there, didn't count them. I checked in PoP and the armor still displays properly there.

Terrific changes to the first post! Much more readable! The screenshots add to the feeling nicely as well.

Another good chapter!

Northcott 说:

King Ragnar and Jarl Aedvord stand over the last of the Swadian Horsemen at Tahlberl
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I can't help but notice how unenthused Aedvord looks next to the ecstatic Ragnar... 
Aedvord: "Yes, the battle is done. Whoopee."
Ragnar: *cartwheels*

Congratulations on taking Curaw and surviving the battle in the throne room, those are always a challenge for me.

Bruce  Almighty 说:

Wow, another aar... Great.
It looks like an era of aar-s starts once more.
I'll be following this. Right now, it looks good.

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I seem to remember that era... 

Northcott 说:

Thanks! It's been fun writing it, though I wasn't sure If I was actually holding anybody's interest.

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I think you are, perhaps, posting too quickly for folks to get on and comment. You might also be posting more of a "wall of words" than people are willing to take on but I'm sure the screenshots you have promised will break that up sufficiently.

I had a little trouble following who was who and what was happening - gameplay-wise - up through the Sept. 2nd entry, however. Afterward it kind of sorted itself out, though. Changing to a confused companion's perspective 6 months into the game and having the names and descriptions of half a dozen new people and a few unfamiliar events poured on takes a bit of slow reading to get it all straight.

Despite that, I find your story to be VERY well written in all! Names, characterizations, and all the technical stuff like vocabulary and grammar are very well done and your introduction of gameplay events is subtle enough (sometimes too subtle) that I don't feel like you are hitting me over the head with your actions as a player. Also, I am a fan of Stefan after his good deed on Sept. 8th.   I look forward to more of his cleverly-worded excuses.

Hello, everybody...

It's been a year and a half since I posted here last but I've checked in every now and then. When I stopped Evangeline's story this thread had something like 16,000 views. Now it is pushing 23,000 and I'm not sure what to make of that, though I am flattered.

Nostalgia has brought me back to playing a bit of M&B:W and I've given some consideration to continuing Evangeline and/or starting a new AAR but I'm sure that is unlikely in the extreme. My ideas for Evangeline and her spiritual descendants all make the same mistake that began to, in my opinion, really drag down her story toward the end: a ponderous amount of aimless story almost entirely unrelated to the gameplay.

Either way, nostalgia also brought me back here. I've been reading through it all again and I wanted to say that I appreciate all the kind words. This AAR is the literary work I've spent the most time and effort on to date and I'm happy to see that it is still gaining views though I have no idea how people are even finding it these days.

I don't know what I'll be doing here but I'm sure I'll be on a bit here and there in the next few days at least. If any of you haven any questions or comments I'm happy to hear them and since I'm sure 7,000 views isn't repeat business, I'd like to know what you new readers have liked or disliked and out of sheer bafflement how on Earth you found this AAR. All I can think of is monnikje's LibrAARy.

I also want to thank Persnychite, Bregil Ulthranson, JosieJ, and Captured Joe for your farewell comments that I've felt a bit guilty never responding to.


Thanks again,

- Ogrecorps

diavel 说:

If you need you can also "export" your character, edit his/hers stats in txt file and then import him/her again. Be warned though, this can ruin the fun if unconstrained, as it's essentially cheating.

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This.

Make a character and export him/her. Edit the text file to give yourself what skills and abilities you want, save, reenter the game and then import the modded character. My advice would be to make a few small adjustments at a time and play a bit between adjustments. You REALLY do not want to over do it. I had to in order to properly test out the new Floris Mod Pack and it killed my interest in the game until a small fire relit itself today.

The other option is to plan very carefully and execute a good plan. I find that archers pwn all when used properly and in sufficient number. This means pick carefully what kind of archer(s) you want (in native I go Rhodok xbows but Khergits are fun too since they are mounted so early.), recruit only those, get your and all of your companions training up to 5 at least and before too long you'll find your troops are upgrading daily up to T3 or T4. Then you won't have to spend as much time grinding along.

The next option is to play a mod of some sort. I'm only really familiar with Floris Expanded Mod Pack and moderately familiar with Prophesy of Pendor. The latter is definitely entertaining but the former incorporates Diplomacy, PBOD, and Custom Commander, all of which give the player good ways to get things done without having to do everything themselves, such as sending out recruiters to gather troops and paying the marshal to train them.