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flashn00b 说:

The last time I played on a custom server with bots, they aren't exactly the brightest. They wouldn't be a substitute for human players but I wanna think they'd fulfill a purpose in trying to get a feel of how the upcoming balance changes perform.

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flashn00b 说:

See thread title, because there's barely anyone on at a given time, and it's impossible to see how the balance changes actually perform. Without training dummies to practice on, we can't even know how the changes have affected the core game.

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The Sign of 33 说:

Guys, TW's behaviour towards MP is not an oversight, they WANTED to kill official modes hence their multiple changes to hurt the experience of MP players (Captain being the main focus imo) throughout our time, did we keep silent? Many of us let them know that their actions were wrong, they were making our experience worse with new patches and their ranked system finished the job for good. Now, there are less official servers, they can keep their money in their pockets. Playerbase now must rely on dedicated servers to play the game they paid for. THE END. That's my take anyways, you can scroll through my posts to find some interesting stuff which proves my point.

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Goyyyio 说:

The problem is that is too difficult and there's way too much requirements to make it consistently reliable in combat. In Warband it had so many uses, I used in multiplayer a lot to counter spear attacks and get a free hit almost always, it took a lot of practice but once you get it you're done, here there's so little situations you can use it and even if you use it, if one of the things you've said are wrong, you get a hit on yourself and it's not worth the risk. So, in my opinion, chamber could just not exist and it wouldn't change anything

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Ikarooz 说:

Ignore multiplayer haters, they never played warband around 2012-2016 and haven't even heard of stuff like pw, crpg or napoleonic wars

The problem with mp is that the combat just isn't as crisp as it was in warband, it feels irrational and spongy at times. But there is something that could heavily improve mp combat

Chambers

Yep, they exist in bannerlord too, technically, but nobody uses them because they are very hard and unreliable to use. The problem is, without chambers the entire combat system becomes extremely dull. It was usually a rock-paper-scissor system: chambers beat spamming/feinting, hold attacks beat chambers, spamming/feinting beats hold attacks. But since chambers are unusable, hold attacks became obsolete and we're back to spamming/feinting. Attack, block, attack, block, feint, feint, feint, feint, attack, that's bannerlord combat atm

and it's boring.

In an ideal world, Taleworlds would overwork the combat system, trying to make it as crisp as it was in warband but I don't really have any hope for that. What they can do though is fix chambers, which would improve the combat system a LOT because it would unlock this rock-paper-scissors system

Or, you know, at least make chamber mechanics more accessible to modders so they can have a go at it

Do devs even visit the forums? Never seen one outside the patch announcements

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The Nutty Pig 说:

I can join other servers, just my precious (The Ludus) that escapes my grasp.

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saittam 说:

In either way. Mostly because hearing different voices gives me panic attacks.
Once at a work they used headphones. I had those on 5 min then ear plugs in.

But this game. The thought of online gives me lot´s of questions.
Seeing some threads it seems really organized.


Do you lads have a video recomendation so i can see how it really is?

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cruzader79 说:

ok seriously is there a release date of the patch? the one with the new items and stances (flourish)

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Tork789 说:

Anyone knows why is MM dead exactly? Do people just not join anymore?

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Namakan 说:

I regret to inform you that the person you're talking to is closer to 10,000 hours on Multiplayer than to 10. Good luck, I hope someone records your duels kek

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flashn00b 说:

Looter usually isn't worth it, since you're giving up the shield perk. I'd argue that Looter on Rabble is much better since their base kit has a shield, and the Khuzait Sickle is probably the best cut weapon that a peasant unit can use.


I think the object of concern when they removed bastard weapons was that the heavy infantry was overstepping into the shock trooper's gameplay roles. Which IMO doesn't make sense since the Vlandian Greatsword was clearly meant to compensate for the sergeant's loss of Vlandian Bastard Sword

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Wardrobe_Fuat 说:

Xbows become more expensive, but they didn't get nerfed like other bowmen.
And also I think they buffed sergeant for some reason. Like they weren't already the most powerful infantry and only one with 2h weapon.
Only decreased looter perk's effect, but peasant still costs 80.

So yeah, they still OP in TDM/Siege imo.

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Wardrobe_Fuat 说:

Galdr, add me on steam and lets play Siege and TDM tonight. Deal?

Lets also compare each units of factions by their price, perk and stats with each other. I will prove to you that Vlandia has best heavy cavalry, heavy infantry and archers.

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Galdr 说:

The reason for the unbalance is not the faction, its the players.

Good players joining the same team and often they pick Vlandia, not because OPness but because skin, 2h sword and xbows. You can join the team you want. Combine these issues and you end up with a massive unfair ****fest.

All factions have a strong class. My fav classes is the Khuzait t2 (movement speed and sword), Vlandia t2 (sword shield+movement speed), Empire t4 (movement speed + sword shield), Battania ranger (t3? agility and fast bow), Aserai t4 (range longbow + marksman or fast bow + shield)

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Alboin 说:

My 10 hours of Bannerlord multiplayer is enough to beat your ass in a duel.


I am a very experienced Warband and Bannerlord player with 10 hours or so hours of multiplayer in both games. If you want to prove me wrong, fight me in Bannerlord.

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flashn00b 说:

Sure I can fight back. I'll just not play Empire. I know it'll never happen, but I'd appreciate having a reason to.

Nope. I play it because Bannerlord's offerings as a multiplayer game are insufferable to the point where "it's the Steam counterpart to an EGS exclusive" isn't a good enough reason to keep playing. Nice to know I'm still the only sane person here. In fact, if I'm perfectly honest, the insanity of BL MP makes the intentional imbalancing in other games look sane in comparison

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