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Sorry, I made the first post sound like I was unhappy with the price. Considering the current discounted prices on Steam, it is a very good deal, I've put countless hours into the first 2 games and I don't regret buying them.

What I'm trying to get across is that regardless of the value of the game, a consumer thinking they are purchasing 3 games would be rather shocked when they realise they kind of haven't, and could have payed even less. The simple solution to this is to treat the games as expansions, you don't have to lower the price, it'd just make the whole process a little more transparent as the pricing scheme on M&B as it is at the moment is at odds with... well any other game I've seen on Steam, or anywhere else I can recall for that matter.

Or, using some fancy steam features which I recall the STALKER series using, just charge the same standard price for all the games, and supply a discount to anyone who owns a previous game in the series, same effect but you don't have to worry about linking the games.

I really think what they should start doing, is just require the original game be purchased, or at least one of these 3 now, and have expansions available, like every other company does <_<

$15-$20, plus $5-$10 expansions depending on content, better business model which aligns to industry standards, doesn't confuse consumers over what they're getting and what they need, and doesn't create odd situations where a complete pack tricks a consumer into buying at least one redundant copy of a game, and wondering why the content of the third wasn't just added to the second as an expansion...

Kleidophoros 说:

They already get money, a whole whoopin 30 bucks. You wont buy it? i am sure others will.

I am no fanboy man and i don't care if you see me as one; the thing is TW and Paradox came up with this business plan; you like it, you tak it. you don't like, you don't; simple as that.

Also i am pretty usre if TW tried to sell MP portion of the game a lot of people would be *****ing about where the hell multiplayer campaigns are.

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Your not getting it. All that they do, is release the game as is, with both single and multi together. Then, the people who already bought M&B can choose to purchase a copy of the game that just includes the multiplayer. If they later decide to purchase the campaign they can. (I assume by multiplayer campaign you mean the single player campaign). You may be happy about spending another 30 bucks, but others obviously are not. And as vocal as you lot are, it doesn't change the fact that there's a market for people who simply want the multiplayer who have already purchased the single player previously.

Infact, we'd probably have some nice civilised requests for this, if you vocal lot weren't so damn crazilly aggressive, your no doubt scaring off the rest of the customers with your near fanatic belief that everything is perfect and nothing could ever be improved upon.

oh your one of those people who see developers as gods

Well sorry, developers are people, I mean, look at what happened to Dice, every battlfield game they've released they've had major MAJOR server issues due to the ammount of people who purchase the game, yet every time a new BF game comes out, they have the same issues.

Sorry, developers are just people like you and me. And considering how when I posted this, you were all like "not ANOTHER of these" it doesn't take a genious to work out there's lots of people who want the same thing. And do you know what people are? They're a market. Do yoy know what companies do? They market to people. Do you know what TaleWorlds are? They're a company. Do you know what they want? Our money. And this here, this post, is a requesst to them, so they can get my money, and everyone elses in the same position.

Have you even been to games forums before? Companies get all sorts of requests like this, some companies take this sort of thing into account, those companies earn more moolah.

The fanboys with they're "our masters can do no wrong!" attitude are getting grating. I made a suggestion, live with it, it's not hurting you is it?

Maegfaer 说:

Look at it like this: If they sold it cheaper, they wouldn't make enough profit to continue developing the game. If you think Warband is almost the same as the original M&B, then why do you buy it for soooo much money?

If it's worth it for you, buy it. If it is not worth it, don't buy it. If you don't have enough money, get a ****ing job.

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ok ffs, do you people even know how to read? I said, sell the multiplayer seperatly for people who bought the original, then if the person so desires they can then buy the single player later. Let me make it clear so those who seem unable to read will hopefully get it from this point forward

THIS METHOD WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS
THIS METHOD WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS
THIS METHOD WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS
THIS METHOD WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS
THIS METHOD WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS
THIS METHOD WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS
THIS METHOD WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS
THIS METHOD WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS
THIS METHOD WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THE DEVELOPERS

Hopefully you'll all notice that now.

MaHuD 说:

Dawn of war II Chaos Rising

Is also an expansion, it adds way less than M&B warband, yet the price is the same. (And cheaper than the original game)
It's not weird...

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thats the point, expansions are cheaper then the original game... DoW2 Chaos rising is half the price of the game it expands.

lol I love it, someone disagrees with you and your like "quick lock the topic!" The chinese government would love you lot

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Drift 说:

No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

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There are expansions on other games that do require the original game that cost more than Warband (From the Taleworlds site, Warband only costs €22, not counting taxes. ), and that while Warband is a very extensive expansion pack, talking in the rough quantity and the quality of the new features. Hell, it gives upgraded single player in every way (better combat AI, improved world map AI, more weapons and armour, improved politics system, more quests, revamped combat, ...), improved graphics and multiplayer support. Most expansion packs on other games simply add a few extra hours of gameplay (often with at best a few small tweaks to gameplay, no real great improvements), a few extra items and voilà, you have an expansion pack that you can sell for €50.

All in all, Warband is really good value. The fact that you don't require the original game is actually very generous of TaleWorlds, now you're even asking for a discount.

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I disagree that the single player has changed that much. There's still a number of problems, including moral not calculating properly, AI asking you to follow them for ever, while they wonder the map doing nothing, your only choice being to abandon them and get kicked out of the army and lose rep for that faction. For battles split into multiple phases you still often don't get loot from previous phases, so if the alst phase only has 1 guy left alive, you'll get nearly nothing. Morale will go down in multi stage fights even when your winning, and the AI... Here's an easy way to win any fight. Tell your men to hold, run over with a horse to the enemy, pelt them with some arrows till you get thier attention. They'll stop moving. Pick of the archers so they can't fight back, you can now stand around as long as you like and waste the rest of your arrows without any risk. You can also go to the end of the enemy column and start hacking through it, only 1-3 guys will come to fight you, the others will stand there.

Single player was definetly not the focus here, and yes it has improved, but not so much that it's actually worth rebuying, if the multiplayer wasn't including, I don't think anyone who owned it originally would re-buy it. The multiplayer is where it's at. Forget discounting, it's obviously not a popular idea. Instead just sell the multiplayer component seperatly to owners of the original. People can then decide if they want the single player, more people will purchase the game, and Tale Worlds earns more money.

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Shinigami 说:

I don't understand people who want a discount on a discounted game. If the original was $60, would you be happy expansion is only $30? And with M&B you get two games for the price of one!  (original+expansion)
I've only been able to play trial so far but I love how it works. I'll get my $30 version soon (I was about to buy a $9 localized variant but then understood how much time localizers will need to update patch to 105, they're stuck with 102 ATM).

Don't want it? Don't buy it! Want it? Buy it! Or wait for some shop to offer you a discounted version. Its as simple as that!

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I don't think you get it.... the original game wasn't $60, it was 30, same as this, which is like a premium indie game price, I was happy to pay it, because M&B is a premium indie game.

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Published by Paradox, does that mean anything to you?

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No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

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You know you don't have to buy it, just feel lucky that the original M&B wasn't the two prices combined so you wouldn't have been forced to buying this with the original one .

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lol, and there's a way to look at it. I'm not trying to start ana rgument here, I'm just saying, expansions have never costed the same price as a full game, especially not for those who originally own the first game.

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Why not? What makes you so sure there should be a "should" in how much things cost? Especially on a luzury item?

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huh.... the last decade or so of game purchases was a good start to my experience I suppose... Luxury item? Are we both talking about games here? 

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Careful distinction there, how it usually is or that it has always been this way does not mean that things should be like that, it just means it's the norm. For example, slavery has been the norm for quite a long time, doesn't mean that it should be like that.

Luxury item, if it's not necessary for basic survival, then it is a luxury item.

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true, but in that sense most items these day are luxury items. Read my previous post, I mean, everyone wins, people can still purchase the $30 version, people who have played the original and don't want to replay it can just get the multiplayer, and TaleWorlds gets more customers and thus more money. It's like win win

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So? What if most of today's things are luxury items? Does that mean you are entitled to them?

Drift 说:

lol and I agree, and I'm not saying give it away for free, I definetly think they deserve the money. But it would be nice, for those of us who have already payed for the single player previously, to either have the option to JUST buy the multiplayer, or get a discount on the full thing. It's not losing any money for TaleWorlds, as you've seen there have been alot of posts like this. It's not just a few people, and with the ammount of agression I see from the community, chances are a hell of alot of other people would buy this game given that option. They're just to afraid to say so with the huge backlash that results.

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Not really, if they sell the game features piecemeal, they would have to charge more for it than if it were bundled together with an expansion. Not only that, but basic economics, if you're selling something, you might as well give more stuff in one bundle and sell for more money than sell very little of it and not get as much.

And yes, there are a lot of people who think this way, although I'm not too sure about them being right just because they are numerous.
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I don't think you get this economics thing. Say you sell an eco friendly car for 1 million dollars, say it costs 5 million to make each one, and no one buys it. You may claim it's "right" but your still not getting any sales. Whats "right" is what sells, I don't even know what you mean as "right" it's not like there are any laws in place dictating what indie games should sell for...

And no, they don't have to charge less or more for splitting the multipler out from the single player... It's just for the people who already bought the original. The trick to get it working is... to charge the same price : / It's not too hard... Your making this more complicated then it is and inventing problems.

Seawied86 说:

Diablo II added a huge number of new items, and I mean HUGE, new game mechanics, new character classes, there was a huge ammount of extra content in there. But um, those expansions your mentioning, maybe your jsut buying your games at a store thats ripping you off, I live in Australia, new games around $100, those expansions were about 40-60, Guildwars expansions were technically new games, keep in mind it was kinda a free mmorpg.
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huge number of items that were just copied items from the original with different numbers plugged into them. Even the artwork on the unique items was pulled directly from the D2 original files. Additionally, there are more new items in Warband than D2:LOD offered.

If you are paying $100 for a brand new game, then I truly feel sorry for you. Even with the conversion rate to American dollars, I only have to pay half what you pay. As other people have said, virtually everything in the game has been expanded. More quests, more features, better graphics, and improved combat system.


Another reason I'm sure taleworlds is factoring in on not including a discount: how many times have you seen mount and blade been put up for sale for $5? I've seen 3 different sales where they offered the game for that cheap. If you get a $10 discount on warband for owning mount and blade, that would translate into Taleworlds actually paying you to own their game.

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haha I suppose, but selling the multiplayer as a seperate component would solve that issue entirly. In fact it'd be rather good, sell the game as it is, but make it so the serial you can purchase is either for multiplayer only (available to owners of the original) or both. If a person owns the original, they can then purchase the original seperatly later if they wish to. Chances are if the mutliplayer is good, they'll probably want to re-visit the original and will go and purchase it for the extra $10 or whatever (assuming the multiplayer component goes for $20).

I think it would work well.

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Shinigami 说:

I don't understand people who want a discount on a discounted game. If the original was $60, would you be happy expansion is only $30? And with M&B you get two games for the price of one!  (original+expansion)
I've only been able to play trial so far but I love how it works. I'll get my $30 version soon (I was about to buy a $9 localized variant but then understood how much time localizers will need to update patch to 105, they're stuck with 102 ATM).

Don't want it? Don't buy it! Want it? Buy it! Or wait for some shop to offer you a discounted version. Its as simple as that!

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I don't think you get it.... the original game wasn't $60, it was 30, same as this, which is like a premium indie game price, I was happy to pay it, because M&B is a premium indie game.

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Published by Paradox, does that mean anything to you?

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Drift 说:

No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

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You know you don't have to buy it, just feel lucky that the original M&B wasn't the two prices combined so you wouldn't have been forced to buying this with the original one .

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lol, and there's a way to look at it. I'm not trying to start ana rgument here, I'm just saying, expansions have never costed the same price as a full game, especially not for those who originally own the first game.

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Why not? What makes you so sure there should be a "should" in how much things cost? Especially on a luzury item?

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huh.... the last decade or so of game purchases was a good start to my experience I suppose... Luxury item? Are we both talking about games here? 

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Careful distinction there, how it usually is or that it has always been this way does not mean that things should be like that, it just means it's the norm. For example, slavery has been the norm for quite a long time, doesn't mean that it should be like that.

Luxury item, if it's not necessary for basic survival, then it is a luxury item.

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true, but in that sense most items these day are luxury items. Read my previous post, I mean, everyone wins, people can still purchase the $30 version, people who have played the original and don't want to replay it can just get the multiplayer, and TaleWorlds gets more customers and thus more money. It's like win win

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Well anyways every M&B fan should support tale worlds.They are to small company to afford giving stuff away for free  Now go and buy warband

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lol and I agree, and I'm not saying give it away for free, I definetly think they deserve the money. But it would be nice, for those of us who have already payed for the single player previously, to either have the option to JUST buy the multiplayer, or get a discount on the full thing. It's not losing any money for TaleWorlds, as you've seen there have been alot of posts like this. It's not just a few people, and with the ammount of agression I see from the community, chances are a hell of alot of other people would buy this game given that option. They're just to afraid to say so with the huge backlash that results.

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Well yes it would be generous thing for tale worlds to do.I think they should give ppl with original m&b serial 20-30% discount or smthn.And i hope money we pay will result next bigger better M&B games 

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hmm, I don't get whats up with the sarcasm... yes thats generally the concept, or you could charge a cheaper price for just the multiplayer, and lock out the single player which they can pay for later if they want.

Does anyone actually have a reason why this is bad or are you all just being fanboys? <_<

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OP a troll.......

or a Spoiled brat....... or maybe both.

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And Seawied86, learn what double posting is,

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Ya, it kinda looks like posting two times back to back... kinda like... iunno... THIS:

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No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

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You know you don't have to buy it, just feel lucky that the original M&B wasn't the two prices combined so you wouldn't have been forced to buying this with the original one .

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lol, and there's a way to look at it. I'm not trying to start ana rgument here, I'm just saying, expansions have never costed the same price as a full game, especially not for those who originally own the first game.

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Shinigami 说:

I don't understand people who want a discount on a discounted game. If the original was $60, would you be happy expansion is only $30? And with M&B you get two games for the price of one!  (original+expansion)
I've only been able to play trial so far but I love how it works. I'll get my $30 version soon (I was about to buy a $9 localized variant but then understood how much time localizers will need to update patch to 105, they're stuck with 102 ATM).

Don't want it? Don't buy it! Want it? Buy it! Or wait for some shop to offer you a discounted version. Its as simple as that!

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I don't think you get it.... the original game wasn't $60, it was 30, same as this, which is like a premium indie game price, I was happy to pay it, because M&B is a premium indie game. The expansion, is another $30. Why should an expansion, not a new game, an expansion to a game I already bought, cost the same as the original game? It even includes the original game. Why not let those who already own that, get like $10 off or something. Your not getting 2 games for the price of one, your getting the game you already bought plus an expansion for the price of one.

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its a great way to get yourself muted by the way.



By the way, D2:LOD really didn't do anything at all to single player. It certainly did not do a "hell-of-alot more" than taleworlds did. In fact, taleworlds really went above and beyond what D2 did. The new campaign (aka: act 5) lasted me all of 2 hours first run through.

You have one example, I have hundreds more, ie every expansion selling on any console, and well... every expansion I've ever bought on PC. Maybe back in the 90's some companies charged alot for expansions, but I haven't seen that since.

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I got a ton more

Battlefield 2's expansions, both special forces and the armored one. Crysis' stand alone expansion, Starcraft: Broodwar, Neverwinter nights expansions, Guildwars, etc, etc.

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oook, read my latest post, it's not double posting, double posting I'm responding to other peoples posts here's a def of double posting for you
"One common faux pas on Internet forums is to post the same message twice. Users sometimes post versions of a message that are only slightly different, especially in forums where they are not allowed to edit their earlier posts. Multiple posting instead of editing prior posts can artificially inflate a user's post count."

Diablo II added a huge number of new items, and I mean HUGE, new game mechanics, new character classes, there was a huge ammount of extra content in there. But um, those expansions your mentioning, maybe your jsut buying your games at a store thats ripping you off, I live in Australia, new games around $100, those expansions were about 40-60, Guildwars expansions were technically new games, keep in mind it was kinda a free mmorpg.

Perkūnas 说:

Well anyways every M&B fan should support tale worlds.They are to small company to afford giving stuff away for free  Now go and buy warband

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lol and I agree, and I'm not saying give it away for free, I definetly think they deserve the money. But it would be nice, for those of us who have already payed for the single player previously, to either have the option to JUST buy the multiplayer, or get a discount on the full thing. It's not losing any money for TaleWorlds, as you've seen there have been alot of posts like this. It's not just a few people, and with the ammount of agression I see from the community, chances are a hell of alot of other people would buy this game given that option. They're just to afraid to say so with the huge backlash that results.

my original post was just an opinion, you guys started getting all riled up, someone put down the f bomb in the second post, I mean come on. You guys don't think the wierd dev-love might be going a tad far to get this upset do you?

Havoc 说:

Why must you argue? Like i said you are not being forced to buy it. It's not our problem if you don't like the price.

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And I didn't start an argument, you guys did, check my original post, when did I insult anyone?

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Shinigami 说:

I don't understand people who want a discount on a discounted game. If the original was $60, would you be happy expansion is only $30? And with M&B you get two games for the price of one!  (original+expansion)
I've only been able to play trial so far but I love how it works. I'll get my $30 version soon (I was about to buy a $9 localized variant but then understood how much time localizers will need to update patch to 105, they're stuck with 102 ATM).

Don't want it? Don't buy it! Want it? Buy it! Or wait for some shop to offer you a discounted version. Its as simple as that!

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I don't think you get it.... the original game wasn't $60, it was 30, same as this, which is like a premium indie game price, I was happy to pay it, because M&B is a premium indie game.

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Published by Paradox, does that mean anything to you?

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No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

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You know you don't have to buy it, just feel lucky that the original M&B wasn't the two prices combined so you wouldn't have been forced to buying this with the original one .

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lol, and there's a way to look at it. I'm not trying to start ana rgument here, I'm just saying, expansions have never costed the same price as a full game, especially not for those who originally own the first game.

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Why not? What makes you so sure there should be a "should" in how much things cost? Especially on a luzury item?

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huh.... the last decade or so of game purchases was a good start to my experience I suppose... Luxury item? Are we both talking about games here? 

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Warband is worth 30$ and you should know its their second game they need the money.

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so, market a multiplayer expansion to garner the interests of non-fanboys. They'd earn more money, whats the big deal?

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Oh, and lets not forget that NO ONE is forcing you to buy it. If you want it, buy it, end of story. If you can't afford, well that's not our issue.

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And your obviously a helpless child, i've tried to avoid making this personal, it's just an opinion, but grow up and learn to accept that not everyone thinks like you.

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OP a troll.......

or a Spoiled brat....... or maybe both.

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A person disagreeing with you doesn't make them a troll, further, I didn't insult anyone, you guys kinda are, thereofre I'd say your more the childish one.

And Seawied86, learn what double posting is, I'm responding to peoples posts, what do you want me to do, wait a week untill everyone shuts up so I can respond all at once?

Further, I can't comment on the D2 expansion as I bought it with D2. They did a hell of alot more changes to the single player game then this did though, which were apparent all the way through, M&B added multiplayer ontop, D2 already had multiplayer, instead they gave a new campaign.

You have one example, I have hundreds more, ie every expansion selling on any console, and well... every expansion I've ever bought on PC. Maybe back in the 90's some companies charged alot for expansions, but I haven't seen that since.

Guys, a person is entitled to an opinion, my opinion is if I've already bought the original game, having a way to purchase the multiplayer component without re-buying the original would be nice, and give taleworlds more money. I don't know what the hell your problems are, it's not like this suggestion will lose any money for taleworlds, infact they'd get more, from the countless people who don't want to rebuy the original game.

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Shinigami 说:

I don't understand people who want a discount on a discounted game. If the original was $60, would you be happy expansion is only $30? And with M&B you get two games for the price of one!  (original+expansion)
I've only been able to play trial so far but I love how it works. I'll get my $30 version soon (I was about to buy a $9 localized variant but then understood how much time localizers will need to update patch to 105, they're stuck with 102 ATM).

Don't want it? Don't buy it! Want it? Buy it! Or wait for some shop to offer you a discounted version. Its as simple as that!

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I don't think you get it.... the original game wasn't $60, it was 30, same as this, which is like a premium indie game price, I was happy to pay it, because M&B is a premium indie game.

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Published by Paradox, does that mean anything to you?

Drift 说:

Swadius 说:

Drift 说:

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No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

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You know you don't have to buy it, just feel lucky that the original M&B wasn't the two prices combined so you wouldn't have been forced to buying this with the original one .

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lol, and there's a way to look at it. I'm not trying to start ana rgument here, I'm just saying, expansions have never costed the same price as a full game, especially not for those who originally own the first game.

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Why not? What makes you so sure there should be a "should" in how much things cost? Especially on a luzury item?

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huh.... the last decade or so of game purchases was a good start to my experience I suppose... Luxury item? Are we both talking about games here? 

Havoc 说:

Drift 说:

Just gonna go through these responses

Havoc 说:

Also, the single player campaign is way different

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no it isn't

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Ah! I see what you did there, you omitted the last part of my post and slightly edited it.

For you see, my post said "Also, the single player campaign is way different/better, in my opinion anyway."

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Um... thats because I don't disagree that it's better, it is slightly better, but it's also pretty much the same.

AWdeV 说:

And here I was hoping you were talking about an "upgrade" option for weapons and armour in multiplayer, allowing you to buy heavy, strong, thick, hardened, balanced, masterwork or tempered versions of your equipment. And I was all like: "Hey, that sounds awesome!"

But nooooo, you have to ***** & whine about the price of the game. Which, in its entirety, is still cheaper than many other games, and provides faaar more value for money.

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Um yeah... it's cheaper then games like Battlefield Bad Company, Just Cause 2, Gears of War, Zelda, Call of Duty etc. Those games have million dollar budgets... I think the situation is a tad different. Further, alot of those games on Steam actually cost less then this, further still most indie games such as this cost less. I think the price is fair for this game IF you wanted the whole thing, but I've already played over half of what this is selling. The option to either just purchase the new content, or get a discount for already purchasing the original would be nice.

I don't see why you guys don't understand this simple concept, all expansions use it, except... this one apparently.