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AVRC said:

Ranked Mode is on its way, these will not be an issue because quitters will be getting extra rating decrease and matchmaking penalties on repeat offences.

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Ranked will be a big problem in NA

Well just admit that you guys gave a default on purpose in the group stage.

Steam Name: MihaWk
Do you have a mic? Yes
Would you be interested in being a captain? no
Do you have prior team tournament experience?: yes
Are you available on weekends and weekday nights? yes
Do you pledge yourself to Rat Royal Family? I will serve the RaT family until my last breath

Heyyyy welcome back guys

We should execute those noobs!

WMorton said:

Maybe thats the truth, and dont think im some pub ***** ok, im not retarded. Of course I don't want it to be 4, but like I said in the post your welcome to disagree, im fine with keeping it where its at just was bringing up discussion points

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Nobody said that you're a pub *****, actually, you assumed that your self sir.

WMorton said:

I have, but I was testing the shield stuff with a buddy, and it took 12 hits with the one handed aserai mace to destroy a shield, I think the small round aserai shield

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So how many hits do you want it to be 4? Imagine you're in a skirmish game 12 hits is literally nothing

WMorton said:

My suggestions
2. Decrease shield hitpoints, or increase weapon bonus against shields to make them break faster

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You haven't played 1.5 yet have you?

Greedalicious said:

Warband is easier to understand than Dota, but the chaos is pretty simmilar, especially in 8v8.
The differences is that with 16 players on the field, cavalry running everywhere, casual observers have no clue what the hell is going on. They just see blobs running at eachother and eventually 1 color wins.
Thats basically the same in Dota, but you can see what abilities they do, the shiny colours make it look more epic and impressive than clicking a simple button.
Warband didnt have any special attacks, its not like you click 3 and you hilt spam for 3 seconds, its difficult to know when a does something cool or not.

We also fought teams that thought they were hot stuff after playing casual, like siege etc. They watch a few streams of competitive and think pfff we can do that, no problem! We crush them 12-0. It is hard to gauge skill differences in Warband unless you've played a fair amount.

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True, but at least you get an idea of what is going on in Warband and there can't be a class picked with different abilities and etc, not like in dota when you need a lot of time just to remember what kind of abilities each character has and etc.

Alyss said:

Is it our time to shine?

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Rittenhouse is coming back? ?

Moton said:

It's not about understanding the fundamental part, that's simply not interesting at all. How can someone admire your skill levels in Warband? The point is that someone is'nt going to watch just once but do it multiple times.



Easier to understand the fundamentals sure but not exactly why the other guy was better than the one he won over. Then it becomes super boring.

Immagine if Bannerlord could become that game that atleast has a chanse on a big competetive platform, would'nt you want it?

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WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT INTERESTING PART HERE I SAID IF THE SAME PERSON THAT NEVER PLAYED WARBAND OR GAMES LIKE DOTA 2 AND HE WATCHES 1 STREAM OF EACH GAME WHAT WILL BE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND???? WHO TF IS TALKING ABOUT INTERESTING HERE MY DUDE OPEN YOU EYES AND LEARN HOW TO READ. you're a rly one special aren't you? Oh and I wrote this in caps maybe you will pay attention to what I'm writing

TheBard said:

The outsider will understand quicker in Dota 2 than one understands the mechanics of a warband match.

This is no issue. No problem. Dota 2 has a budget way higher than what TW even can hope to achieve in Armagan's fever dreams and was designed for this, Warband was not even considered an esports-title, thats what the community made out of it. People here in this forum actually have to get down the horse that Warband was an awesome game to watch. If you are dedicated diehard fan - yes. If not, people laugh at it. I've seen that when I showed this to outsiders of this scene. "Wtf, this combat duuuuude!" all the ****. Also objectives were not as clear nor considered "fair" by the observers


I stand by my point, Dota 2 is easier to understand of whats going actually on and what the roles of certain heroes are and what abilities do, if you're open to it. I can't say the same about Warband Streams, I'm sorry. Oh, and I have highest respect for these dudes running the battlestreams. Really.

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As I said again I agree with you that DotA 2 is more interesting to watch, but let's say this there's a guy who never played warband and there's a guy who never played games like DotA 2 before, he watches both streams 1 time and you're telling me that he will FULLY understand what is going on In DotA 2 more then warband? If your answer is yes well I'm done here and gl my dude. Under fully I mean character counters special item builds to counter the characters warding, ganks the character skills and etc

TheBard said:

DotA 2 is way more watchable than Warband. Understandability is something else though.

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I agree with you but the thing this dude is saying that a outsider can't understand what is going on in warband and an outsider understandswhat is going on in DotA 2 is ridiculous. And I forgot about the active items with which you can disappear, slow the enemy down, heal up and etc.

KSHMR said:

This is why we need a more proper middle tier class. I hope the voulgier shield isnt going to be a ****ty one lol

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The shield brakes in 2 hits with a sword in beta 1.5 lol

Moton said:

So it all boils down to people not liking the genre? Not anything with the game itself? Do you even notice how strange that sounds? Even games like AoE have a bigger playerbase wich comes from the considered dead genre of RTS and is like 20 years old and I'm not only talking about the defenitive edition.

So you're basically implying that there is no improvements possible in Warband? If that is your opinion we can stop discussing but dont come here and say that I am an idiot because I strongly belive there is alot of things that can improve from Warband going into Bannerlord.

You can think whatever you want about the game and so can I. The differense is that I'm trying to better the game and you want it to be the same.

Also no those games looks serious and good on a competetive level, people can watch those games on elite level and still understand the mechanics and why this guy is better than that guy or why exactly this team won over that team. Looking at Warband on elite level it's impossible for an outstander to ****ing understand what hell is going on. Most people just like my friends would just laugh and be like "what the **** is this ****?" That is why Warband never can have a serious competetive platform and I for one would like Bannerlord to have that.

But you can deny it all you want and say "To many scrubbs on planet earth that dont understand a good game when they see one" but that wont help much.

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Where did I say that bannerlord doesn't need improvement quote me on that one please and thank you, and one more question how are people suppose to understand who is better then who in warband or bannerlord? Simple who shoots better is a better cav and INF? Like if you don't understand what's going on during warband competitive games you HAVE TO BE DUMB, because there's only 3 classes that gets selected inf, cav and archers, nothing else everyone is waiting for the flag spawn or they just fight. And one more thing if you don't understand what's going on in bannerlord or warband competitive because it's rly simple HOW ON THE EARTH YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN DOTA 2 COMPETITIVE GAMES?????? There's 10 different characters with each character having 4 different skills and 5 different positions that people play, all the ganks and all the wardings. I'll tell you something EVEN if an outsider watches competitive warband he will understand what is going on because of the stream settings of warband where it literally says who is playing Archer who is playing cav and who is playing inf and it also shows the hp of the players, on the other hand I still watch some of the league streams and I have no clue what is going on in some situations because of the different skills every character has. So the conclusion is that if and outsider can't understand warband competitive streams and he can understand DotA 2 well I guess just start playing the game because you will be a pro in 1 year.

EDIT: so the outsider won't understand what is going on here https://m.twitch.tv/videos/45371695
but he can understand what is going on in a final of international in DotA 2? Ok

Well you should have said that you were talking about captains mode, I never played it and got no idea what's going on there

Moton said:

Read my previous comments. Also I literally said that my freinds opinions are not better then anyone else and I've stated many times that I think Warband was fun.

I dont really understand what you're raging about but you should chill out and try to discuss in a somewhat civilized manner.

DoTA, Cs and LoL however have millions of players month after month year after year while Warband was allmost never over 10-15k except at rare months where they once reached 32k (wich is the highest ever) the month after 32 they went right down to 10222 players. One month they reached 23k and there are some other months when they scratched at about 17k. So over in a 8 year span they literally only have 3 month

No matter what you say facts say that Warband never had a big community, 10-15k is considered low in the gaming industry and what I meant with my friends that would'nt even try it because it looked to ridiculous even tho I would buy it to them points to the fact that there are probably more then them who thinks that. If you can gain a much larger gaming community by making it look atleast somewhat serious it's a big win for everyone.

Just to make it clear since you seem to jump to conclussion I'm not saying that high amount of players equals great game but 10k is absolutely nothing.

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Maybe because people don't enjoy the genre of the game? Which game like warband or bannerlord has more then 10k players? Yes all those games have million players because they can simply make money out of those games, and these 10-15k people who are playing warband& bannerlord actually enjoy it. 95% of the games where player community is more then 50k are the games where you can at least make a dime and that's why they have alot of players. if TW hosted more then 1 tournament in 10years I'm pretty sure the player base would increase. Why you think everyone jumped on valorant? All those PRO CS players just switched to valorant because they knew that their careers wouldn't progress in CS and they simply switches to make more money.

Ragratt said:

No. Battania is so under-powered it might well well be removed. I do not think Vlandia too strong. They can be countered and regularly defeated. The consistent pattern is Empire being strong vs every faction and Battania being weak vs in all matches. I should not this is in the main branch, I have not tested 1.5 yet.

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I mean I simply don't know what are you talking about tbh https://m.twitch.tv/videos/678968832 watch the first set where where AWH is playing battana vs Vlandia KoA and they win battania was super strong in skirmish games because of their javs and they could respawn 3 times as a wildling which gets 7 javs yes cav wasn't that good but archers are strong, also if there is a faction which is overpowered it's definitely Vlandia.

So you think that empire and battania are overpowered while Vlandia crossbows one shot everything?

Yukmouth++ said:

Slight exaggeration. The banners are not "god awful". + if they let people create their own banners we'll start seeing circumcised dicks as clan banners.

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Current banners are total garbage... People created their own banners in warbandand nobody was bothered.