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How about troop tiers? I did hear talks about a filter for unit tiers. Is it possible to create more than the base amount of tiers for troops and use the higher tiers with some type of filter? I think the highest tier ingame is 6 for noble troops. So is creating tiers 7+ and up and creating a filter to sort them into formations feasible?

HumanCancer said:

I'm fairly certain that people simping for TW haven't played Warband.

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I have and I like it. Along with Viking conquest and the original mount and blade.

I agree with maelstrom, it has its faults and you need mods to fix current problems. But my first actual battle watching hundreds of npcs slugging it out against one another for the control of the field while me a struggling fighter just trying to survive the fight, and with pretty decent models and graphics against the setting sun was all I needed to be hooked. I like warband, but having to fight wave after wave after wave in battles or sieges while trying to survive and direct fights gets boring, and the older models and clunky ui and menus don't do it for me no more. Plus I never understood how pre battle parts worked. The mods were fun but I taken a fancy to eagle rising with some rome total war music myself. Or a full late medieval run with Swabian Armory. But when 1.6 comes out stable I do want to do another modless run.

Mind you this isn't my first ea game, star citizen, factorio, satisfactory, etc so I do know what the process is like.

WhyAmIHere said:

I mean I *want* people to actually read what I said instead of look for a dunk but that's clearly too much to ask.

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Comment #7 bro, someone already counted for you.

WhyAmIHere said:

It would have been so easy for them to say "Over 100 removed and about half a dozen added" but they instead chose to be vague as all hell. An absolutely avoidable own goal in terms of communication.

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You want them to highlight and bold the changes for you too?

Jance said:

Intentional or not, this can easily be interoperated as defending Taleworlds since you are trying to disenfranchise our side of this debate.

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It wasn't meant to be for either side, that was my intention. I'm just watching from the sidelines. But if you see it from my perspective as someone new to the forum and seeing all the back and forth, you kinda get why I want to stay neutral. I'm not into fighting, but just watching what the eventual outcome is.

Jance said:

I think you are misunderstanding. The answers they are giving can be trusted, but they are intentionally obscure because they can't (and definitely shouldn't) make promises they can't keep. That's why until we get a solid answer saying "we will remove all the usages of the internal keyword" we're not really going to be satisfied.

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Gotcha ya, I'm not into modding other than messing with xmls and stuff so if thats what it means than I differ to your judgment.

Vekar said:

Exactly, but someone is not reading while making excuses for TW.

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Dude, already going at me? I'm not speaking for them. I'm just saying its not out yet. That's it. Clear as crystal. They have a track record of being slow and not adding things we would like to see. That's clear to everyone. A statement someone says doesn't say much. If I remember correctly even you guys have said that their statements suck and can't be trusted, so why now start believing? But if its not out yet why not wait to confirm its really a bad change. That's it dude.

Jance said:

While I definitely think this thread should be more civil, we aren't asking for anything unreasonable. We don't know how long it will take for 1.6 to come out, but we're basically stuck not being able to work on major parts of our mods until this issue is resolved.

Not to mention Dejan has already confirmed the problem won't be fixed if taleworlds has it their way.

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Nahh dude, I get that. The only answer is to wait till then unfortunately.

Vekar said:

If you have been reading the forum as I have been to get caught up since Warband, it is not premature. This is just one long running problem of endless lies, back stabbing and well... Go read the forums, its all out there, no one is acting prematurely in any regards on this matter considering the track record TW has been developing the past few years, this is just one more lead log on the camels back in a long line of lead logs.

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I'm a lurker dude, I do try to keep up. But again, its not out yet. We can't just judge and execute someone without seeing the evidence first hand. Otherwise you are killing a innocent man. When 1.6 drops and its bad, yeah, it can get ragged on. But we don't know. It could bring good tidings or like yall say, a flop.

Aren't you guys kinda overreacting? Its still 2 big patches away and yet everyone is acting like its ww3. Plus we don't know exactly what was added or taken away, could be minor things or could be big things. Or things could change over time. At least wait for the actual bonefide patch than start to make big assumptions about things that aren't even happening now.

Its like watching people jump ship without waiting to see if the ship was actually hit badly from the rocks. It could be a mild scrape with only paint being scratched, or a hole in the side causing flooding.

Wait for the patch to drop, and if its bad, then yeah its justified. But if it drops and its more accessible to modders what then? Until then we don't know. And again, the patch in question isn't live, not yet.