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Just here to point to my signature as well as mourn MostBlunted. RIP toxic king. The game is called bannerlord and has the most laughable banner system and they won't do anything to improve it just like they won't improve most of the rest of the game. I literally would've been more happy with bannerlord if the entire game was a banner simulator at this point cus it'd atleast have been true to the title. But no, we got battlelord, not bannerlord, and TW can't even make that interesting enough for people that actually want massive scale battles like you get in UEBS. It's entirely a direction issue at the company and we will never see it resolved.

Like someone else mentioned here it's going to be another game announcement. Taleworlds likely has met their mark on tipping the community from being severely mad at the lack of follow up on promises and displacing all the veterans with drawing new players in who will just hand them money and will not ask for anything past that. They have found perfect modern day gaming balance where the people that do care have lost, or are losing, the war of attrition, and the people that don't care only play for a bit and then move onto the next game believing they've got their moneys worth of it. TW wins both scenarios: vets love the concept too much to fully give up and new players only care about like 10 hours of gameplay because it's their attention span. So there's a slowly dying mp community of vets and a revolving door of new players in sp. The vet players that just wanted an amazingly upgraded game to play endlessly like warband are the ones that lose.

As of currently, anytime I play this game I just abuse system after system in order to try to avoid other stupid nonsense that makes no sense. Whether these are bugs with systems or intended gameplay decisions, idk, but it really feels like if a game is in dev for over a decade that they could figure out bugs that modders figured out within 2 weeks of the game being out. I hate that we must accept mediocrity in order to get to experience the game fully. No matter who you are or what your playstyle is, you're encountering things that probably shouldn't be that way. For example, not a bug, but you must hold lords for indefinite periods of time if you are on a campaign because they will get released then immediately run back with 50 troops in 30 seconds. Just shows the lack of logic in the games decision making outside of "more battles = profit". Where's the self preservation? Send a man home covered in blood 3 times in a row over 3 days and recruits still want to sign up? It just feels bad to play.

I still will never forgive taleworlds for calling the game bannerlord and then giving us the least inspired editor i've seen since cyberpunk's infamous character creator. The TW devs need to contact modders and ask to implement their mods fully and this game would be amazingly detailed within 2 years. But it won't get more detailed because they still need it to perform on consoles and apparently they can't figure out how to do that.

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This is a cool idea. Too cool for taleworlds to consider it. Best to just wait another 16 years for Bannerband 3: Superbands revenge.

Maybe some day we will actually be able to influence the gigantic empty map other than with colors as well! I love building 7 upgrades for my town and walking in and seeing the exact same dead eyed stare from my guards with no other changes to the scene. Really immerses me in ways no other game could.

I enjoy returning to this forum every once in awhile to see others like myself mourning what could've been.

RIP the game we should've got. The vision is just too strong and arbitrary for us to understand why they couldn't just improve on everything they established in the decade prior to bannerlord. Hope they got their money out of it, cus they really pushed away a large number of players who put several thousand hours into warband, like myself. Seems like everywhere you turn in bannerlord is the beginning of a good idea that never ended up in the completed stage and was just pushed off for other things until someone forgot about it then returned and forgot what they were doing.

Wish they just made warband 2 instead of making us wait almost a decade for a game that attempts to be caviar while only offering spam.
Super cool post. Like seeing a video of your long lost loved one.

Don’t worry, the modders will fulfill these plans like the rest of the broken promises theyve already proof of concepted for taleworlds. We are all sacrificial lambs for the console money

The bad news about this is that nothing will get better, it will just continue to be optimized. Hopefully taleworlds made their grift money off the game considering it only cost them a huge swathe of their loyal fanbase. I just stop in every few months now to see what else is broken instead of wasting my time playing looter AI killing simulator

Logged back in just to acknowledge yet another massive Bloc win.

He cannot keep getting away with this, he is an absolute madman and if we do not stop him now we will forever see better versions of bannerlord than we could hope to have

They do not care and have not for a long time. Nothing we could've ever done about it as management apparently is just absolutely blind to the insane amounts of posts regarding mp issues since the first day the game hit EA

My group and I will not be returning to play an official server while the loadout system stays as it currently is (which is more than likely). We've found little joy in the restrictions the bannerlord system put in place of choosing the equipment you like. I can understand why they did this (we players are all very bad at thinking and cannot be trusted to buy gear like we did in 2010) but I'd still rather see 2 separate gamemodes for the new style and the old style. I'll preemptively say that that won't happen cus it will split the dying base further.

Short of a complete overhaul of that system, we will potentially return to a custom server that does have the original loadout mechanics or an invasion gamemode. But like many others who have already given up on the game, they probably have one more redownload before they never even consider the game playable again. If that is a painless experience for them then they could give the game another chance but in the game's current state I wouldn't let them return to either MP or SP, and that's not even on the basis of anything other than bugs and crashes.

(P.S. Banners for MP & full banner creator for SP please (Thanks TW ))

Each patch we are not given the Banner creator that this game deserves is an objective failure of a patch. The only hope we have for this game to ever be playable for long term is a completely comprehensive banner utility. It fixes every single issue for late game such as a lack of content and reasons to do anything other than paint the map my color. Uh, hello? let me paint my banner whatever colors i want instead?? Forcing me to fight does not give credit to the title Bannerlord. If I cannot truly be the lord and creator of my own banner, what purpose would I play "Bannerlord"??

This needs to be first on the dev list of priorities, far above silly things like making the game feel alive or being able to tighten/loosen & target focus your formations! Things like making armor not useless and figuring out how to avoid lords respawning 10 seconds after a battle with enough troops to contest you immediately should continue to be ignored in lieu of important things like Banners and new horse armors.

Depending on the issue, you very likely will never see a true resolution. The best they will do is attempt to patch out the issue 4 months later and break sieges worse again somehow

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The only reason i am on these forums at this point is to forever make jokes at taleworlds since they are unable to make something that someone created in web html in 2020 and bring it into their game in 2022. The best we can hope for is someone to make a mod that fully implements the bannerlord banner thing (https://bannerlord.party/banner/ if anyone doesn't didn't know of it) in a way that uses the game UI so no flag codes have to be copy and pasted. But this would mean taleworlds would have to admit someone did something better than them, which they aren't keen on (see all of Bloc's mods)

No, Taleworlds will never apologize for naming their game "Bannerlord" and subsequently creating the most barebones banner creator they could. We will forever wonder what happened to the promise of a true banner creating simulator, where you could place 2 whole icons and change their size, color, location, and rotation even. A true pipedream of personal creativity where you could choose between patterns and use the brand new feature which dropped this year that makes color selection a breeze, the RGB Color Wheel! We will never hear an apology for this (or all the pages of issues that still persist in the talewatered down game)

I believe that banner carriers should be a unit you can purchase from new towns called "Bannlets". They should require linen and hardwood instead of denars to upgrade, and have a buff that removes all mounts within a 10m radius. They should have almost no armor but be completely immune to arrow and other missile fire. If one dies it should inspire every unit within 20m to instantly kill anything they touch
(obviously restricted to 2 colors and a single icon for banner for bearers, for realism)

Just spoke to Armagen on the phone, he says "no".

Sorry boys, we best pack it up. Maybe next Christmas

Lord AI has virtually non-existent survival instincts. A man surrenders in hopes of avoiding dying that day in battle, but there's no desire to stay alive with any NPC outside of retreat orders (which is also extremely basic and just turns all fleeing enemies into non reactive, linear runners).

This is by design though, and nothing will ever change it within the scope of this game before we see it released. It's all part of the Vision™

What is crazy to me is that they release a hotfix that didnt actually fix the bug that has hard stopped a large number of the most dedicated players from playing. This defection bug makes the already significant task of starting your own kingdom so much more frustrating

Mount & Blade: Bannerlord Banner Lord DLC pack coming Q4 22! Includes 3 new colors, 4 new icons, and a flag pole posted at the main reinforcement point in each fight (cavalry somehow get stuck on this pole and we cannot fix this)

Only $20 (on sale 50% off for a limited time only)