Nash 说:
From here, I go "Okay, so god made stuff, but what made god?"
From there, we can end up with an infinite regress (ie the silly part), or maybe someone says "god always existed".
Then I say something silly like "How can god always have existed?", or better yet, "Couldn't matter, or some form of matter/energy have always existed? Why assume that if something had to have always existed that that thing has to be sentient?"
I chose to skip all this because this line of discussion seems silly to me, hence my superb choice of gif.
Vasile 说:
If there is a God, then chances are he's not bound by the same laws and limits (space, time, matter) as we are.
If God is not limited by time, then there is no such thing as "before God", "after God". "God has always existed" has to be true, because God created time, and has therefore existed since the beginning of time.
It's difficult, if not impossible, for us to understand, because we're used to the things we experience daily. No one has ever been outside of time to get an idea of how it's like. To be outside of time means that you can see all that has/will ever happen at once, much like the way a 4-dimensional being can see the entire 3rd dimension at once, without needing to look up, down, left or right; the same way your read images off your monitor, which are 2d projections of 3d objects.
As for the question "Couldn't matter, or some form of matter/energy have always existed?", you have to think about the correlation between space, matter, and time. If you have only matter and time, where would you put it? If you have only matter and space, when would you put it? If you have only space and time, what would be there?
Nash 说:
Why assume that if something had to have always existed that that thing has to be sentient?
Because the world works in a certain way, there are laws that govern it. How did those laws come to be there? Could the matter have known how it should react beforehand? Doesn't that make it sentient then?
Also, you need energy to alter matter. In physics, kinetic energy is defined as (mass*(speed^2))/2. Speed is space divided by
time. Potential energy is proportional to gravitational acceleration, which is defined as space/(
time^2). In thermodynamics, internal energy is also proportional to time. In electricity, energy is (voltage)x(intensity)x(
time). According to the big bang theory, we all came from a swirling dot, in which all matter and energy was concentrated. If that dot was there before time, how come it had energy? That energy could not have spontaneously appeared, since it's been determined that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed.
Edit: Googling around came up with
this. It makes a good point, and it's an interesting read.