Lamias 说:
@ striga
Excuse me but I don't get why people try to refute an argument using technicalities instead of focusing on the bigger picture.
Concerning AoE 2, you failed to take into account many things: Paladins are the most elite unit of cavalry, paralleled only by Cataphracts. Only 5 or 6 civilizations have access to them, and all the others have to use cavaliers who are significantly weaker. Also, the cost to upgrade to paladins is 4x the cost of the respective camel upgrade. Also, a paladin costs more than a heavy camel. See where I'm going with this? Yes, the numbers are made up, so what? The general idea remains: in AoE they gave a bonus +18 to camels for a reason, and overall, it's a good strategy to use camels against cavalry.
Concerning the rest of the things you said, I am not sure I see the point. You just described some mods and, what?
The problem is that you're associating camelry as a counter to cavalry because of one historical event, and a stat advantage that aoe2 gave to them. Even in aoe2, camelry doesn't just make your cavalry stop obeying your commands, which is what you're suggesting for bannerlord.
So if you consider Diplomacy somewhat mainstream, I guess we will see it's features in bannerlord?
So what that it's full of glitches? It also has great features. The fact that there are glitches doesn't have to do with the features it adds. Also, bannerlord has 6 years in development and counting...
I'm in agreement that it has great features, it's actually also the version of mnb that I played when I first started. Taleworlds took in Brytenwalda and put out VC, they've also embraced the modding community. They're not going to just ignore some of the most popular and consistent features. However, my point about Caldaria not really having the need to implement naval warfare still stands.
Bannerlord will come out 10 years after warband, and it has an even bigger team of developers than Pendor and 1257, and vastly more resources,both financial and technical. So I don't see why it shouldn't have more content than them.
The reason I pointed out the time difference for VC, POP and 1257 was because you acted like warband should have had all those features. Some probably won't fit into Caldaria as the devs envisions it, but others do.
For the VC features:
-MnB is meant to be a sandbox game, I liked the storyline of VC and POP, but they're essentially just a chain of unique quests.
-VC focused quite a bit on religion, so did AWOIAF and COK, but otherwise, the religions are just another minor faction with possible merc troops such as the bersekers
-The dog companion was interesting, but not very useful, even the wolf in AWOIAF was mostly just eye-candy
-Starting as a lord/leader is alright, but it's not really that important and definitely not what's being focused on (remember, this is a game, and the mods add more features that the devs don't think are central to the game), also it can be done by changing like two or three lines in a new save file
-Hunting was...uhhh...there's a boar running in circles fail charging me
-Minigames were mentioned by the devs
-Ambush system didn't really do much, just made the two parties start closer, with one faced the wrong way, but able to reform before even a full cavalry party could reach them, not that cavalry were even common in VC
-The adventuring companions are basically just the other companions being made into liegeless lords
-Below that are just enhancements rather than features, which Bannerlord has more than covered if you've looked at any of the content the devs have released
-And the Custom Goals are just another self-made quest which somehow gives you an item, like why do you get a cow for becoming a famous warrior?
*And, remember, VC was taken in by Taleworlds as a DLC
This might be because I don't really touch native that often, but cultural stores just feels like one of the common features throughout the game, the rest are more or less covered by the little rant above.
For POP, besides KHO and the fantasy setting, what's missing?
And diplomacy, as already mentioned, would be a surprise if it's not included.