No, Attila7 is 100% correct in this case.
The modding scene for Mount and Blade has changed. What was a common occurrence in most of the mods has now become some... crazy I.P. ownership/tyrannical control over "property/assets" for game mods.
Game mods.
Hilarious enough, most of these top mods use OSP resources. Then state that "No I wouldn't add this, this is my mod. No one can use my stuff."
A. If you're not selling it, legally, it isn't yours when you put it out to the public for download.
Plain and simple.
B. Most game's that borrow from other people's work, tend to be more evolved in terms of entertainment value. As it takes from the community as a whole. There is no competition. If there is, it's more along the lines of "How shall I expand our assets even further, what shall I create?"
C. If you create these unique games or mods, and you don't bother to sell them, and you send it off to the community. Why would you care if someone used your "work". It isn't work if you don't sell it. It isn't even yours since they aren't "selling" it as yours. There are many, many renditions of other famous people's art work.... Art work that they sold. In fact. Or even donated.
Here is a read:
"What rights do you have to your fan works?
So you've written your Harry Potter fanfic masterpiece. Does that mean you own the copyright on your fan fiction? A work based on an earlier work, such as an adaptation, sequel, or translation, is termed a "derivative work." One of the rights granted to copyright holders is to control the creation of derivative works, although, as we've noted, fair use may be a defense in certain cases. But if your work is fair use, do you hold a copyright on the original elements of your work? Consider the case of Timothy Burton Anderson, a screenwriter who wrote an unauthorized, unsolicited treatment for Rocky IV. Anderson later sued Stallone and MGM, among others (in the aforementioned Anderson v. Stallone), claiming that portions of his treatment were used in the final Rocky IV script, for which he was never compensated. The court held that Anderson's treatment was a derivative work, and therefore Stallone held the copyright on that work. Anderson attempted to argue that he held the copyright on the original portions of his script, but the court rejected his argument."
Art forgery is the creating and selling of works of art which are falsely credited to other, usually more famous, artists. Art forgery can be extremely lucrative, but modern dating and analysis techniques have made the identification of forged artwork much simpler.
The ONLY reason, and I mean the ONLY reason we can even have these mods. Is because talesworlds said "Oh yeah, are game will be accessed by modders. Here is this module_system, here- this man made this program to edit files, we see no problem with it. Sure have it on our website... yes these are the things we did to make it work go ahead, create."
NOTHING here is sold. NPW was sold as DLC. Which is legal. Notice how that is derivative of history which can't be copyrighted either. Copyrights cover sales. Not freely distributed works. By the way. Even then, if you distribute it freely under some law, your law will have to cover fair use should you distribute it freely. Therefore most of these complaints don't even hold up. And in fact, simple requests of proper crediting could diminish a whole lot of head ache for people feeling "abused" by the gaming community. When it's
AGAIN, All in good fun. These mods used to be about just, making the game more fun. Now it's like a play for fame. Or something strange.... the community has mutated into something maddening. Why create something for the community if you wish to control every single aspect about it... because it's special? No one cares. Literally. They just see the mod. Ironically, it's the things that are released freely that are hardly ever stolen from. Look at brytenwalda, look at Open source Bear Force II. No one even cares.
You don't want to see your works in other mods? Sell it. Otherwise, close your eyes, think of your homeland. Because no one cares. If it's fun, then play it, ask for credit.
Interestingly, no one here is remaking mods and putting them out. Every single mod is unique in some way. Or is recreated by the authors and their friends.
So I cannot fathom why these "artists" care if your mod has some of their crap. Maybe you think the face is cool, maybe you make your own faces you don't care are used. Modding communities used to have artists that made things, and expected them to be circulated through the communities. They wanted their works to be used, because they didn't sell it. So that just means they wanted it to be seen.
Now the dynamic has changed, I don't know why. Now when I see something that looks "cool" I don't even bother searching for the creators name or even read the credits because who am I to know if they even created it originally or borrowed it themselves and simply pass it off as their own.
A great example is the Light and Darkness mod.
How many, exactly, OSP works are included? I mean holy crap. And you don't even have a module_system for modders? Or even a statement like "Here, if you use it - credit me, release sub mods in this forum, release your own module_system."
I mean, you could get some great fan mods based on your work if you weren't... crazy.
Another example of breach of legality is A Clash of Kings by Cozur.
The mod isn't legal. But it also is. It's a fair use, freely distributed work based on a copyrighted book. And even now will be using designs of armor from the show.
And yet Cozur is the worst example of a modder any community could suffer.
His favorite example of any openness of the mod is always met in condescending insults.
"no, it's my work, no go away."
It's your work?
Seriously?
Your WHOLE mod is based on a book. Why wouldn't credit be good enough if someone wanted to make a book based mod on an earlier time line like when Rheagar was alive. or even show the invasion of the white walkers.
Why not even add a Module_System for private, PRIVATE use? Why? because they're crazy.
Check out the old Mount and Blade section, quite a few good mods include their Module_System for good reason.
Hell, you don't even need a module_system anymore but we have these "he stole my mod psuedo laws"?
This is all crazy. You're all crazy, And because of it your mods will suck. They will all suck.
Except this naruto mod its off the chain..... yeeaah booii!!11
