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It's been 5 days since the incident, I hope someone starts talking as to what's going on.

Name: Cat
Server: NW_Official_US_1
Reason: Accidentally Team Killing
Date: November 11, 2012
Time: 7:20 PM
Timezone: Pacific Standard Time
User ID: 311332
Type of Banned: Permanent

Administrator: Jedi_Robo

May I remind everyone that the person had only said that word, 1 time in a server full of 140 Players with constant chat going on. A Slayed or warning? Maybe, an immediate permanent ban especially when there are intentional teamkiller going on who was ignored by the same admin? I don't think so.

I will wait for August 21 for the Ban to repeal for that individual, otherwise I will stop supporting any games by TaleWorlds in the future and will warn other players as to what kind of Administrators are actually running on the Official game server. Giving a Permanent Ban which is avoidable by using Mute Option instead of targeting Griefers, Trolls, Harassers, Team Killers, you've got to be kidding me, this is probably the most pathetic thing I've ever witnessed an admins done.

MewMew is a good player and as already mentioned before, I can vouch for his/her innocent otherwise I wouldn't waste my time here debating. But if the administrators don't care about any of their players whether they are nice, innocent, or joking around, then there's no point in me playing on that server, let alone other players. In either case MewMew, you are always welcome to play on my server in the mean time.

Thundersnow 说:

First off, there are so many mis-characterizations of myself as an Administrator in this thread that are not only laughable, but outright wrong.  I won't take the time to comment on them.  Instead I let my reputation of being a fair and just Administrator stand on its own merits.

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No disrespect, but not everyone here thinks that you are fair or just, if anything you're very harsh and gave out big punishment for something as minor. If someone had a problem with certain words, then that's what the Mute button is for. Unlike teamkilling in which you can't avoid.

Thundersnow 说:

It was a perma-ban because he said it about 30 seconds after I gave the warning, along with someone else.

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It doesn't matter when he said it, it's whether he knew the word was offensive or not. Maybe to a Spanish speaking person, calling that individual a Negro doesn't mean they were trying to be racist, but specific. Issuing a Permanent Ban on someone when you never mentioned which words are offensive or not is already guilty on your part. Are you going to Ban someone for calling me a Yank next time too? Because I personally felt that was a racist intolerant remark.

Thundersnow 说:

The perma-ban was meant to show people that racism/racial slang is not tolerated, and that when an Admin says not to do something, he MEANS IT. In my mind, perma-banning forces the player to come to this BAN/UNBAN forum and explain the situation, defend their actions, and hope that going through this process shows them that defying the administrator will at the very least force them to think on what they did, and spend some 'time-out' time to ponder it so I'm not just banning the same people over and over again. 

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The Permanent Ban should only be use against someone who already committed several violations in the past, not on someone who had just violated the rule unintentionally, nor it should be use as a demonstration of force. Saying that the ban forces people to come to the forum to explain their action does not justify its merit. That's about as giving someone a Life in Prison with a parole in court on several occasion to explain themselves.

Thundersnow 说:

I literally sat there in spectator mode waiting for someone to 'pop off' another racist term because you guys were arguing the minutia of bi-lingual definitions for the word 'black' for 45 minutes.  Around 7 people were banned during that time.  And rightfully so.

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How is it "Rightfully so"? And how did it even break the Server Rules?

Do not make derogatory remarks to other players or regiments on the server or about players who may not be on the server.

No derogatory remarks about the players was ever made. People were just innocently discussing the context of the word that may or may not have been offensive.

Thundersnow 说:

The whole passionate "He was using it in another context in another language" argument, while nicely put, doesn't even come into this unban argument because:

He said it right after I said no racism/racial slang

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He wasn't even there before you issued out the warning, so his excuse was understandable. Nor did you define the definitions for Racism/Racial Slang.

Thundersnow 说:

He didn't preface his word with "HEY EVERYONE I'M GONNA START SPEAKING SPANISH, BUT ONLY ONE WORD, AND COINCIDENCE OF COINCIDENCES, IT WILL HAPPEN BE THE WORD "NEGRO" FROM OUT OF THE FRICKIN BLUE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE ADMIN JUST SAID IN GIANT PURPLE LETTERS ALL OVER MY SCREEN.

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Doesn't matter if he did, Negro isn't an offensive word. He should be able to say it as often as he wants. The only reason why you had him banned in the first place was because you can't stand people joking around while you were trying to be 'serious', so your anger took the best of you.

Thundersnow 说:

Even if he did give that warning, he would have been banned.  He was on the US Official Servers.

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Even on the US Official Server, the word Negro which means Black in Spanish or means African-American in the United States still doesn't deemed as offensive. You have no right whatsoever to issue a Ban, in this case a Permanent Ban on that individual.

Thundersnow 说:

White kids are not the only people playing this game.

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Obviously neither is a tolerable admin.

Thundersnow 说:

Have some sensitivity.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egAMgNY84do

No I disagree.

You already said that Negro isn't an offensive word, so by that logic there isn't anything to be punished about. I want to know how it is possible that a person who committed Team Killing only get slayed, temporary banned, then in the worse case Permanent Banned. But someone who uses the word "Negro" , which's once again isn't offensive, get a quick instant Permanent Ban with almost no appeal from any administrators on this forum.

"You are a negro!" is offensive? What's next, we can't call someone a Ruskie, a Krautz,  a Brit? Oh better ban people for using those words too! and make it a permanent ban! That ought to teach them not to be racist.

Wardr1 说:

What people seem to not be able to comprehend, is that the admin said, no racism, and then people say racist things, so to be honest, they deserve the perm ban for trying to see how far they can push an admin.

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As already mentioned before, the server is known for joking around with Administrators all the time, some time even with the admins participating in. That's why people are so lax with administrators until that guy shows up intimidating everyone on the server and being strict about rules; issuing instant Permanent Ban for small troubles, while Intentional Team Killers get redeemed right away and returned to the server.

Wardr1 说:

People seem to think that they look cool because they challenge an admin, and then as Thundersnow said, they then cry about it when they are punished for their cheekiness and stupidity.

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No one was challenging the admins in the server, it's a common habits to quote what the admin said as a joke. Had you been in the server long enough then you would know who these players are and how they would respond, but frankly you haven't so I appreciate if you don't share your sentiment.

Wardr1 说:

You are talking about "negro" being spanish for black, well black is english for black? doesn't mean you can go around calling people black in a derogatory manner. Can't be bothered to scroll up and find who said it, but someone said something about context. This is a stupid argument for getting you unbanned, in fact, it just enforces the ban.

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Considering the fact that we are using the word Negro right now, then why don't we just get ourselves banned immediately. It seems fair if one person get banned for saying it in the server, then everyone on this forum should too. Also the Topic Creator never mentioned anything about name calling anyone a "Negro", even though it isn't as offensive especially when it was used in part of Martin Luther King's speech which is being taught to a 5th Graders in Elementary School. If anything it's equivalent of calling a person a Redneck or a Yank, then why don't we enforce those words too?

Wardr1 说:

After the admin warned people about not using racism, as well as 6 other people, 1 guy shouts "you are a negro" this just shows 1, that he is being racist as it appears he is trying to use the word negro as a derogatory word, plus that he is just a troll.

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Sorry were you there? Do you know the person "mewmew"? Do you know anything about "mewmew"? if not then I suggest you stop judging other people whom you've never met. For one, I have known MewMew and I can say that person isn't a racist, nor is he the type of person who would often pick a fight with anyone or challenge the authority. As already mentioned before, it's a habit in the server to quote what the Administrators said or trolls around in the chat. For one nobody in the server actually minded beside the Adminstrators themselves who probably never spent more than several hours in their own server to get to know these people.

Wardr1 说:

Next time, think about the consequences that will ensue after shouting something like trollish like that. I admin on EU server, and I would have done exactly the same.

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It's really easy to say "Next time" when you're not the one being banned or need to prove your innocent to the forum full of Administrators who cares more about each others than the people playing on their server.

Rocknok2 说:

A temporary ban is understandable, But it was the excessive perma-banning of people. I don't think anyone at all took offense to them jokingly saying it.

Using these words is most certainly ban-worthy. I just don't believe it's a permanent-ban worthy offense.

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The admin never said which words were ban-worthy or not, just not any racism. In either case the guy above was only joking because of the word he was using doesn't have any offensive meaning to it. Permanent Ban just for using the word "One" times? That's a bit excessive compares to other people roaming around Team-Killing intentionally.

In either case, MewMew is one of the nicest player I know, just for him to be banned for joking around is messed up considering the server is known for intentional trolling all the times.

LittleGuy 说:

Regardless of what a word might mean in another language, the US official server is an English speaking server and any word used will be taken for it's English meaning, not it's Spanish. Thus, he/she was banned and rightly so.

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That made ABSOLUTELY no sense what so ever. Considering the word "Negro" means Black in Spanish, if it were to apply on an English speaking server it would have also meant the same thing, which is Black. Other than that, it's just another terms for African-American. Since you have no idea if the poster was either joking or actually was referring to someone with that background, why would you even issued out a Permanent Ban?

Seriously, Banning someone just because they said Negro since you're "not in the mood"? How low can you be. Some administrator you are.

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KittyWolf 说:

The admins seriously need to stop crucifying everyone every seconds.

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Someone used a racial term, and I announced in Admin Chat "Racism and Racial Slang is not tolerated on this server.  Thank You.

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The only problem is you're banning someone who aren't using Racial Slang, and yes the poster was right Negro does mean Black in Spanish, it's not an offensive word even if it was used on a different context. While I do understand that you have a responsibility to do such as enforcing the policy against Racism, I don't appreciate seeing you going around slamming at everyone and issuing a Permanent Ban for a minor offense. I was on the server and I did see how you were treating other players, especially the one who hadn't done anything beside quoting the message that someone got banned for.

If anything that person MewMew shouldn't even be banned in the first place seeing how no rules were violated. Anything else then you're just taking it too far and need to lighten up a little.

I agree with Mewmew, I don't see how this is even Ban worthy, the person is most likely joking based on a lot of activity that was happening in the server. I can vouch for mewmew and the fact that this person is innocent having played with him several times.

The admins seriously need to stop crucifying everyone every seconds.

Somehow my game is working and I am no longer being randomly disconnected, yay! 

I'm also having the exact same problem. But none of the developers ever bother replying, so I guess we're out of luck.

It still doesn't work. I changed the number "1" to "0" and I kept being disconnected.

This is pathetic, I'm about to uninstall this game whether the Single Player is good or not is irrelevant. If there's no solution to this problem then why would I want to have this game on my hard drive and wasting space? I've have had about 900 hours of this game from playing Multiplayer and haven't had this problem until the latest patch update. Now I could careless about this game anymore as it won't let me play.

I've already posted this problem on the other thread, but yes I'm also experiencing the Disconnection problem. I haven't had any problem until recently.