Agree for most rulers, but I can't help but feel as if Derthert would prefer looking low profile and non descript.More noble civilian clothing would be nice. And faction leaders should look distinct, for example when I see Derthert, I must instantly recognize him as a king, especially in civilian clothing.
Can't help but recall running a test where legionaries were actually doing some rather decent work on Banner Knights with their pila as spears. I think the short length might have helped.legionaries arent actually spear infantry. Pilum are for throwing and always have been.
I mean, you put sergeants up against legionaries and you'll see that it does make a difference. They're way too feeble compared to everyone else.What does it do then, other than make you a tad slower? You can tank maybe 1 more hit max.
Fact of the matter is it doesn't do nearly enough, archers absolutely shred armoured units in singleplayer
I suppose, but I would not give wildlings Rhomphaia at all with your proposed idea. You'd quickly find that they'd straight up outclass whatever idea you'd have for Veteran Falxmen fast. And it doesn't make sense either to ramp up a skirmishing unit's effectiveness that greatly.Falx as 2h sword can hit multiple enemies, rhomphalia as polearm - can't. Rhomphalia is long. have a good reach , but handling not so good as falx's handling. So rhomphalia is better on distance while falx is better in close combat. Falx is better against shielded troops , rhomphalia is way better against mounted troops. It's different usage as for me.
I'm not saying it's not effective or something,
I guess it's ok . We even won't see a difference I reckon.
But I would give them 1h axe as fians will drop close combat effectiveness.
To be honest I don't like when troops have randomly mixed ammunition. Like Battania wood runner sometimes have shield and sometimes not.
Vlandian Banner Knights are the most lightly armoured shock cav, and barely any better than their competition. They don't have any special skills or anything, and their stupid green hoodie looks ugly. Druzhinnik Champions are marginally better, if anything.But are they?
If you add up total armour points, are Vlandian heavy cavalry units weaker or is there just a different balance of stats?
I know that gets said alot, but that's an exaggeration. Armour does something, and when it actually does enough, I'd want Vlandia to have good shoulder armour too.No it doesn't because armour does nothing in this game anyway
Its borderline cosmetic
Why not? The lack of shoulder armour for Vlandia puts them at a serious disadvantage in terms of defence compared to other factions. It makes them so much weaker than they should be.I think that's intended, to add some more variety to the game. Not all factions need to have shoulder armor.
Veteran falxmen are still anti infantry, they just happened to become anti cavalry as well. Its no different to infantry suddenly becoming cavalry, or skirmishers becoming archers.That's a problem, falxman is kinda anti-infantry unit and then vet. Falxman becomes anti-cavalry unit . It's mixed. Why do this ? Better make another branch for rhomphalia bearers.
For example: it's like sturgian line breaker turns into vet. spearman instead heroic line breaker. No , vet. spearman has his own branch.
Fians already have 2h swords.
Not using mods right now , but thanks, will keep it in mind.
I just abandoned my Battanian playthrough. This troop's tree pisses me off, upgrade all troops randomly they are almost all same anyway. The scenario only one : collect as many fians as you can and kill everything that moves.
And I think I broke my tongue trying to pronounce my battanian wife's name.
Its a lot longer, and it deals heaps of damage. Compared to the falx, its far better as an anti cavalry weapon. No seriously, go and match veteran falxmen up against the same number of Elite Cataphracts. The Veteran Falxmen should utterly decimate the cavalry.What so good in it ? I'd prefer 2 h axe or sword.
That just makes the Wildling a vastly stronger unit than the vet falxman. They'd be superior shock troopers and skirmishers. And triple stacks of javelins will look ridiculous. I think you vastly underestimate how good rhomphaias are.No , just give rhomphalia to other unit. Rhomphalia and 3 javelins , no shield. I'd rather have vet. falxman have falx and wildling have rhomphalia.
My point is druzhinnik doesn't have javelin, but horse rider does. Horse raider can do druzhinnik's job but druzhinnik can't do horse rider's job. So I better get horse raider instead of druzhinnik.
Because variety is more interesting, and I think absolute balance is not all that interesting. If almost everyone has archers, we'd have a lack of interesting options and tactical dynamics at play.I know what you mean but it doesn't matter what makes sense if the gameplay is contrived. The point I am making is one from a gameplay/balance point of view -- if we have to nerf crossbows into longbows why not just give them bloody longbows?
The range and firepower are the issues of crossbows. The core issue of sharpshooters is that they are peasant troops that upgrade very fast because of the range and acceptable damage of even lighter crossbows (ie they usually are safe from ranged pressure because they can usually out-gun anything, point it in the general direction of the enemy, release, and boom easy upgrade!). If you use a similar formation or tact I mention in my first post you can amass them far too easily. When I say they are op I am not only referring to their inherent power. A group of fian champs will eviscerate an even-numbered group of sharpshooters. But -- I can consistently get 5 sharpshooters much more consistently than 1 fian champ -- and 5 sharpshooters will defeat 1 fian champ 10 times out of 10.
Sure. However -- my point is this is far too deterministic for a sandbox game that is meant to be built around dynamic battles and logistics.
Vlandia should be able to do other strategies besides make defensive lines (ie the game is better if factions aren't limited to one playstyle or the gameplay is bottled down to the same fights continuously) If the player or ai of a specific faction wants to take a different approach they should not be hamstrung because their troops are great at one tact and terrible at others. I am not staying make every faction the same. But I am saying there should be more wiggle room for varied playstyles within the factions. Furthermore, there are mountains of room to nerf Vlandian ranged units to make Vlandian infantry less squeamish. This in theory this would allow different compositions of troops biased on lord's and ladies' traits or goals for example.
Vlandia is meant to be the ancestor of the Swadians and Rhodoks, so turning them into longbowmen makes no sense at all. Swadians themselves used crossbows, so I don't see where longbowmen would be coming from at all.On an unrelated note. Vlandia sharpshooters are overpowered. I can train raw recruits into dozens of sharpshooters in a shockingly low amount of time. Perhaps sharpshooters should be the noble troop? Probably not -- but they seem to be getting 60-80% of my kills at any rate. I know Vlandia is supposed to be pre-Swadia before the Rhoduks but they feel a lot more of the other way around.
In virtually any situation I can form a defensive line (equal split of crossbows to pikemen/voguers -- with crossbows upfront by about 2 meters -- all loose formation) wait for the enemy to get within 20-30 meters or so, call infantry charge -- cavalry charge from behind. Nothing has been able to withstand this technique. But, it's probably just because AI has no idea how to deal with very conservative playstyles accompanied by intense ranged pressure -- or adapt their troop composition to counter this type of playstyle after repeat encounters.
I am sure many would disagree with me but I would like to see Vlandia ranged units nerfed into a mediocre style longbowmen and buff their infantry (non-spearman branch of infantry specifically) and become much more of a direct fighter as opposed to a volley focused playstyle.
Bucellarii are just kind of meh. I'd say give them a lance or something so they could feel more unique among the other horse archers.It's alright as is. Never see much point for Menvaltions and Bucellarii though. Bucellarii are well armored, but they just can't seem to kill anything really on horseback - though I guess they have more arrows then Palantines.
Menvaltions aren't horrible, but Legionaries are just generally better overall.
No, they look cool. Don't take it from them.Khuzait is basically perfect. My only complaint is I'm not sure Darkhans should have the face mask, should probably just be for Khan's Guard. Minor personal quibble though.
I haven't been keeping up as much as I should, but from what I've heard, they've just given everyone else more cavalry? Not a fan of that solution, doesn't actually address the issue.They already stop'd them via snowballing fixes, as far as I've seen unless they player joins the Khuzait they don't expand with nearly as much success now.
I'm saying a gold standard for a troop tree that's 'good', which is what I read this topic to be about.