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Eärendil the Mariner said:

There are sceneprops which have a measure coming with them, the siege ladders (6, 8, 10, 12, 14 meters). You can go on and lay them next to each other to measure them. Might take a while though.

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Namakan said:

2. For the modulesystem (ModSys, yes) side of things: in module_presentations.py search for ("game_multiplayer_admin_panel". That should lead you to the start of the admin panel presentation, and in the ti_on_presentation_load trigger of it there is a decently long try_begin/else_try/try_end block that assigns a reference to a mesh to a variable based on what scene is currently selected in the admin panel. You can extend this block with your own else_try to add scenes by yourself.
I'm afraid I can't really help you with actually getting your map screenshot into a mesh and adding it to the game, never done much myself in that area. I guess you could try looking around the files for a bit and try to figure it out yourself or wait for someone else to help out.

3. I'm not sure how NW detects changed modules, sorry.
As for changing the name in the admin panel, that is quite simple: Open strings.txt and search for the original name (make sure to replace all spaces in the name with underscores (_). You can then replace the name with your chosen one, like this:

Code:

#old
str_mp_ambush_fog Ambush_(Fog)
#new
str_mp_ambush_fog Training_Camp

As for the preview image, you should replace the one used for the map you are replacing (if there even is one). You can find the name of the mesh in the code I described regarding question 2, and then maybe you can figure it out from there - Again, I sadly can't really help you here.
That said, having a preview image for your map really isn't important - I don't think I've seen many scenes made by anyone but TaleWorlds that comes with a preview images.

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Namakan said:

1. Just replace the outer_terrain_x in the scenes.txt file with the one you want.

2. This is done using the module system - do you know how to use it?

3. To add new maps to the admin panel you once again need the module system.
Another option would be to replace an existing scene with your new one. I'm not very much into NW but looking at my files, your scenes.txt should have a few entries looking like this

Code:

scn_mp_custom_map_1 mp_custom_map_1 256 none none 0.000000 0.000000 100.000000 100.000000 -100.000000 0x00000001300040810005194a0000000000005ae800003c55
  0
  0
outer_terrain_plain

To add your map, replace the scene code and outer_terrain of the entry with the ones of your scene. Then add your .sco file to the SceneObj folder and name it scn_mp_custom_map_1.sco. You can then start your map ingame by selecting Custom Map 1 in the adminpanel.
(Again, I'm not very into NW so if the custom maps don't show in the adminpanel, you might need to replace another map that does.)

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scn_mp_ambush_fog mp_ambush_fog 256 none none 0.000000 0.000000 100.000000 100.000000 -100.000000 0x000000023002a1ba0004210900003ca000006a8900007a7b
  0
  0
 outer_terrain_plain

scn_mp_training_camp mp_Training_camp 256 none none 0.000000 0.000000 100.000000 100.000000 -100.000000 0x0000000730000500000d074800000c960000750900003615
  0
  0
 outer_terrain_plain

Eärendil the Mariner said:

A mesh is basically every 3D object you see ingame. Mind that user interface elements are basically also thin 3D elements. In the module system everything is working with the meshes. Once you have found out which mesh those scene pictures are for example, you are able to look up at which places in the module system they are getting used (the mesh name is getting used there). You can also find the referenced material and texture settings in the brf and via the texture also the texture dds file name.

1) For the basics take a look at the step 3 here: https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/presentations-basic.358674/
Then look up how the other scene images are getting done and implemented.
2) For me that's the same question as in 1), so same answer as in 1)
3) Basically also the same answer as in 1)
4) Take a look how it is currently getting done at the admin panel presentation and imitate that behaviour.

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Spoiler: Proof 1

Spoiler: Proof 2

Eärendil the Mariner said:

1) You can decide by yourself with what you are happy there, it has to fit your taste of design.
2) If you have chosen a texture you work it into the mod
3) I am not sure what you are doing here at all. It should be a simple folder inside a zip file which you extract and which can then be used immediatelly
4) Learning by doing is the parole here. If you have concrete questions I or someone else will try our best to answer them. But for general stuff we expect that you try around a bit and try to get a sense for it by yourself

In my opinion you are thinking too much about this texture thing with the scenes. That's something which will rarely get looked at at the end anyway. Just try to concentrate on the other stuff for now to get it working before delving into new topics. With time comes experience and you will get more confident to work at other parts. That would be my recommendation for you.


The Q&A board is for planned for this. At the moment it's me who responds to you, could also have been any other person. If people have time and know about a topic, they will try to answer you. I would recommend you to mark a question as solved and ask a new question in a new thread since people might not notice that the topic has changed already like it did here.


You are pretty silent in the modding discord, have not seen you commenting yet

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1. “[The pictures] should get defined in module_meshes at some places (look directly for the mesh names from openbrf);
2. “[Afterwards, the pictures] should get called/use it in module_presentations”.

1. How do you define (what is to define?? to set?) the pictures in module_meshes.py? (I assume their name in openbrf hints at what to edit in??)
2. Where do you define(set?) the picture in module_meshes.py?
3. How to use (this was your word) the pictures in module_presentations.py?
4. Assuming I want to use one of the images that are used for preview pics of other maps in the map selection, how do I go to set that up for my custom map? Can you provide a simple step-by-step guide?

1. You say that you start with a texture. Can that be a screenshot I take of my actual scene or one of the images that are used for preview pics of other maps in the map selection?
2. What do I do when I have chosen the texture?
3. I don't even think im using OpenBrf correctly, are you really supposed to delete all the .dll files since it's v.0.0.82.e? (when I did it, it stopped working correctly)
4. I'm very confused about using OpenBrf. There's all this data and I don't know what to select, what files to edit or anything of the sort. Really need your help on learning on how to change the preview picture. You seem like a really nice person going through all this effort just to help me, I just need a little more

Eärendil the Mariner said:

You are in the module Native while you should have loaded the module NW. You can see that at the bottom right corner of openbrf. Before importing a new texture I would advise you to first find the original ones.

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BlackSniper said:

Dear Fusilier,

1. It really depend to which mod you compare Persistent Frontier. If you compare it with Napoleonic Wars (which are often very open and empty maps) then PF is indeed big (our maps used to be between 400 and 950 kb depending on world size). Compare it with Persistent World (and perfaps other Persistent mods) and we would be equal or lower.

2. I used a map generator in the past but the link is no longer working (I used this terrain generator). I also often copied an existing map and just changed the terrain which will still work. I'll sent to you all my Persistent Frontier maps later today when I'm home. You can use or edit them if you like.

When making a new map I wouldn't suggest going over 1MB due to performance issues. We also tried to avoid big maps like New England since they often cause alot of lagg for players (might no longer be the case, since pc's got alot better compared to 2014-2016). Bigger maps usually means more models like tree's which caused the lagg. Reducing the amount of tree's helps alot but makes big maps very open / less beautiful. I myself would prefer the Amazon map size. I assume the lagg is just caused by how the game works.

I hope this will help you. You can expect a DM from me later tonight with the link to the Persistent Frontier maps.

Kind regards,

BlackSniper

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Eärendil the Mariner said:

[exe in mb-repository] as long as you don't want to further develope that tool by yourself.

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