Menethil said:
Edit: Please dont exaggerate the NA players in your eyes. There is a simple logic when EU players play in NA tourneys (serious ones) we did gave them a really hard time with (140 ping). I remember EU archers were kicking asses of NA's archers John, Lagstro(highping) Jeffrey etc. Dont get me wrong NA has really talented players like cru vinny and ppk but you guys never made the same impact in EU tourneys as we did in NA tourneys. No drama pls just opinion. I think Roberta should make a only NA players all time rankings. If admins let him.
I’m working on my list currently. I’m doing one for every year and then a final culmination list. There’s no doubt European players have had a big impact in NA, yourself included, but the list of game changing players really only include the best to ever play in Europe and they happened to play in the best teams when they did well. TMW is a prime example as many great Europeans played for them and they just won the one tournament after wK was defeated in the semifinals. I believe GA ended up third in UNAC S1 and was carried primarily by archers and cavalry. It wasn’t until WPL that European teams entered back into the NA scene and most of those teams did quite poorly with the exception of Unity and I think GA again. Other than those teams the only notable European achievements in NA were the KoB team in WPL 1 which had Rempica, Napoleon and yourself and OE in WPL 2 (although their Europeans missed the finals match). Basically those that achieved the most were backed up by NA’s best players and generally Archer and Cavalry players are able to handle the ping difference the best. Another thing to note, with the exception of the meme super team in UNAC 5, no team has ever won a championship (deservedly) with a major influence of Europeans on it.
I’ll be including all the noteworthy Europeans in my lists by year as there are certain individuals that did leave a lasting mark on NA such as Blacktide and Sikici as they played in NA for quite some time.
I have no doubt that certain NA players would dominate in EU just as they do in NA and to judge them based on the teams that have played in Europe is unfair. The NA teams that play in Europe are usually filled with players that are second or third tier players that don’t have quite what it takes to perform at a high level with the ping difference. I didn’t want to turn this into a boring EU vs NA debate, just sharing my thoughts. I have always looked to fill gaps in my teams with Europeans and I have many friends on both sides.
