Recent content by ares007

Hi @samdomino
Thank you for this tutorial! It is very informative.

I did notice something interesting on page 13 in the code for the OnDeactivate function:

this.OnDeactivate();
this.RemoveLayer((ScreenLayer) this._gauntletLayer);
this._gauntletLayer.IsFocusLayer = false;
ScreenManager.TryLoseFocus((ScreenLayer) this._gauntletLayer);

If I'm not mistaken, would this not result in an infinite loop? Shouldn't it be base.OnDeactivate() instead of this.OnDeactivate()?

Well, realistically, attacks from the same side actually would be slower. Or if they were not slower, they would lack significantly in force

If anything, blocking in that case should slow you down even more rather than remove a speed penalty. I do agree that it being advantageous to click block between attacks should not be a thing.

I think small nuances like some attack directions being faster from certain stances and certain follow-ups being slower than others makes the combat more rich and interesting.

Right now, I personally don't feel that the problem with combat is that it is too slow and needs to be sped up. I do agree it can feel a bit clunky. I feel the problem that speeding things up too much will only exacerbate the current issues with melee combat.

If you mean make combat quicker by making input simpler (by removing the clicks between attacks) then I agree with that.

Thanks!

I also found another fictional account: In Gamelyn, Gamelyn defeats his brother's champion wrestler.

I am trying to gain an understanding of the context of medieval wrestling. How did wrestlers make their money? How were matches initiated and carried out and for what reasons? What were the typical rules (very likely quite varied I imagine)?

Just wanted to mention that I think the brf exporter linked to in this tutorial works much better than the official exporter. In my experience, the official exporter doesn't keep any information on the translation of the abdomen.

What I did was use the official starting blender files (since they are already using the in-game axis) and then executed the brfanimexport.py file from the text editor. Worked like a charm 

Mandible said:

Hey, that's great to hear! I would love some more voices. The sad part is that in Warband, voices are determined for an entire "gender" of troops, which means that it isn't possible to have different sounds for Scottish Squirrels and Woodland Squirrels since they all share the same skeleton and skin and such I could make a separate entry for Highland squirrels, but we only get a limited number of races, so those spaces might be better used by making foxes, stoats, toads and such...

That being said, if you do record some Highland squirrel lines, we can at least put some in for when you encounter them on the world map.

If we make the general squirrel voices somewhat Scottish-ish, but not TOO Scottish, then they could fit both Highland and Woodland Squirrels.

Why don't you try your hand at recording some voices and we'll see if we can fit them in?

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It should be possible (maaaaybe even easy) to use a mission template trigger in the module system to differentiate the different types of squirrels (based on troops rather than races) and what not

The way that I would think of doing it:
1st: put the animation into one of the unused animations (you will see a bunch of unused human animation tuples right before the horse animations start. Also if I am not mistaken this animation should have a higher priority assigned than the other attack animations

2nd: Make a mission template trigger that triggers whenever a 2-handed overswing is detected. You should also check the item in the agent's right hand. If an agent is in the overswing animation and has a katana, then the trigger gives the agent a new overriding animation (which is your new animation). This will make it so that anytime someone attacks overhead with a katana, they will play your animation instead of the native animation.

3rd: Make a mission template trigger that deals damage. Basically, you should make it so that after a certain amount of animation progress, if there are any agents within range of the attack and in front of the attacker, you deal damage to them (this can be refined as well to enhance the "collision detection" aspect).


Of course, easier said than done. There's a lot of little details you need to work out. You should be familiar with mission template triggers and general module system coding before attempting this I think.

Hope that helped

Ohhhhh that makes sense! Almost stupidly obvious  lol

It worked. Thanks! 

Wow! I'm really liking the attention to adding more immersive animations!

However, I have one huuge request...


please please please please please get some real Historical European Martial Artists to do the motion capture for melee combat 

Or at least study some HEMA on your own 

Well, the going has been really slow. During the busy semester, I was only able to do conceptual work, but I'm finally ready to start doing some more coding. My next order of business is to add in a "balance" system. Basically each person will have a certain amount of balance and this will be affected by whatever you are doing. For example, you will have better balance while standing still than while running. Also, when things happen like getting hit, you will temporarily lose some of your balance. Once all of your balance is gone, you will fall. I don't know that this will make a huge difference on gameplay right now, but later once I start adding in grappling stuff, it will probably play a huge roll.

Duh said:

Feinting could also be considered a valid block counter.

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Yes feinting can be used to try to get around someone's defense, but it does not in and of itself beat blocking. There are two ways that I can immediately think of in which feinting is used against decent opponents: 1) to trick the opponent into attack at the wrong time. In this sense, feinting is mainly just a timing variation. 2) feinting can make it more difficult to see which direction the true attack is coming from. This makes it more difficult to block a feinting opponent's attacks, but the feints are still not "beating" the defense.
In either case, the feint is really just a mind-game and not an actual attack.

Well, I'll finally give an update on this

It is not dead! I am still slowly working on it [very slowly ].

First of all, I'd like to explain a bit more on my goal in this mod. I have recently been playing some fighting games (Tekken 6/UFC 3) and learning about their mechanics. To be blunt, those games poop all over Warband melee combat in terms of deep, rich, balanced gameplay (of course, I mean no offense to the developers. They were not trying to create a "fighting game" like Tekken). While I don't want to make "Mount and Blade: Tekken", my goal is to enrich and deepen the gameplay of Warband melee combat.

The biggest problem I see with Warband's melee is that that "block" is overpowered (kind of funny to say a purely defensive action is overpowered ). Basically, except in few rare cases, successfully blocking an attack automatically gives you the initiative (meaning if you attack immediately afterwards, the opponent must block or be hit). In addition, there is no way to actually defeat a block. Well, there is the kick, but that is very risky and doesn't work often (good blockers can still block your follow-up). So basically, the block reigns supreme. Essentially, we have a rock, paper, scissors game where rock beats scissors and [most of the time] paper.

So my first goal is to balance gameplay so that blocking is not so overpowered. I want to add more offensive options that can get around blocks (for example adding throws). I want to add the possibility of actually playing offensively! And of course with these offensive additions, I also want to expand a players defensive tools as well.


Though general progress has been very slow, I have successfully implemented "follow-up" attacks (basically a quick follow-up attack immediately after your attack is blocked, significantly faster than a normal attack so that the defender must block again). This means of course that I also need to add new options to the defender to balance things out. I could add a quick counter-attack strike after a successful block, but I don't want to make basically a faster/simpler version of what we already have. (there would only be two "follow-up" directions making it easier to predict blocking direction)

So I thought of a new idea to enrich gameplay. I was thinking about real historical fencing and about how many actions are related to leverage. Most windings, throws, grabs, and wrestling-of-the-sword have everything to do with leverage. Actually, the masters speak about "strong" and "weak" (to go strong when the opponent is weak, to go weak when the opponent is strong. Kind of like Yin and Yang I guess), and this has everything to do with leverage as well.

So I considered: what if I added a "leverage" gauge to the game (whether visible or hidden). Most aggressive actions would require you to have more leverage than your opponent (I'm not talking about the standard built-in attacks). There would probably be certain actions you could perform in order to steal the leverage of your opponent as well. I also considered that your movement relative to the opponent would "modify" the difference between your leverage. Things like throws, grabs, follow-up attacks, and counter-attacks would require more leverage than the opponent.

What do you guys think?

This is the alternate anthem/theme-song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EfhAFA2yFE